Lopetegui

[Ercall Wolves]

Level on points with 10th and 2 points off 8th, and winning the Europa League. The problem was Lopetegui's manipulative attitude and using the media, which resulted in destabilising Seville Football Club, causing devision and bad feelings, before the start of the season.
It is always about him, not the club or the fans.

With respect we all know your agenda on Lopetegui

 

[Wolf316]

Camaraderie is high, not players fault no signings they can be happy with the team

Exactly but some are saying that Julen will be ****ing them off with his comments to the press but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

The sad thing is, you said this would happen, got a lot of stick for it by the way, and it has panned out as you predicted. So far.
And a forum is for the kind of discussion you've brought to molineux mix re Lopetegui.
I hope you're wrong; that Lopetegui stops complaining and making us look a laughing stock; that we get some players in and the dream is back on. But he's not been great, in my opinion, and wasn't at points last season either.
So if he goes, let's hope we've a good replacement ready, and one who shows a bit of passion for Wolves as well as the ability Nuno and his staff had in making players better.

Lopetegui kept us in the premier end of debate

 

[Wolf316]

Lopetegui kept us in the premier end of debate

Some won’t be happy until he’s gone.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Some won’t be happy until he’s gone.

It sometimes feels like some are so keen on that outcome that they almost wouldn't care about the impact on our survival prospects. I hope that l'm wrong to feel that.

 

[VancouverWolf]

Lopetegui kept us in the premier end of debate

With a new season about to begin it’s fair to not forget our games under JL. It’s a serious concern.
It’s not the end of the debate for me because those games were dire……. sloppy passing, lack of attacking tactics, very few shots on target, let alone goals.

I can accept JL’s complaint provided we play well, win enough games and we have a respectable GD.

 

[wwbug]

Fosun I am afraid only have themselves to blame .
They wanted to take on Europe with a novice Shi in charge and hardly any other football knowledgeable person on site .
Even before Sellars we were a hollowed out company .

 

[DJW]

Heard today, JL is working the squad really hard. Getting them super fit.

Also morale in the squad is still very good.

They may need to be fit enough as our bench may not provide the quality for the number of substitutions JL favours.
Either way it's good to hear something positive coming from the club

 

[VancouverWolf]

Some won’t be happy until he’s gone.

Name one.
I have no idea if you’re right or wrong but all I’ve read suggests that there are concerns around JL.
Don’t mistake concern with wanting him gone.

 

[The Wolf In The North]

Camaraderie is high, not players fault no signings they can be happy with the team

Is that the Italian kid?

 

[Ercall Wolves]

With a new season about to begin it’s fair to not forget our games under JL. It’s a serious concern.
It’s not the end of the debate for me because those games were dire……. sloppy passing, lack of attacking tactics, very few shots on target, let alone goals.

I can accept JL’s complaint provided we play well, win enough games and we have a respectable GD.

I just don’t understand the negativity from some people towards him
I’m sure most people including those who are criticising him for his complaints and concerns on the squad would do exactly the same I know I would
If he said nothing the same people would then say he is just a yes man like a lot on her did say about Lage
Damned if he does Damned if he doesn’t
He’s a quality manager we are lucky to have just get behind the guy and support him and the club

 

[Stourport wolf]

With respect we all know your agenda on Lopetegui

With respect, it is a long held opinion, that goes back several years, based on things that have happened and things he has said over years. Agenda and opinion are two different things. You could day it is an agenda, to shut someone up, with a different opinion to yours,

 

[Wolf316]

I just don’t understand the negativity from some people towards him
I’m sure most people including those who are criticising him for his complaints and concerns on the squad would do exactly the same I know I would
If he said nothing the same people would then say he is just a yes man like a lot on her did say about Lage
Damned if he does Damned if he doesn’t
He’s a quality manager we are lucky to have just get behind the guy and support him and the club

He’s the reason we aren’t playing championship football next season.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

With respect, it is a long held opinion, that goes back several years, based on things that have happened and things he has said over years. Agenda and opinion are two different things. You could day it is an agenda, to shut someone up, with a different opinion to yours,

Not trying to shut you up at all
I simply do not agree with your constant negativity towards him over a sustained period
All I’m bothered is he kept us up and for that I’m very grateful

 

[Ercall Wolves]

He’s the reason we aren’t playing championship football next season.

Exactly

 

[Bullyboy]

Fred Davies

That's the chap. When he retired my Dad, Trevor Rawlins took over.

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Heard today, JL is working the squad really hard. Getting them super fit.

Also morale in the squad is still very good.

Good to hear, although I expected nothing less, because players really don't care about the off the field stuff

 

[Stourport wolf]

Not trying to shut you up at all
I simply do not agree with your constant negativity towards him over a sustained period
All I’m bothered is he kept us up and for that I’m very grateful

Since he became our manager, till the time he did the interview with his TV mate I said nothing negative about him. Is this true? If it is, it isn't constant negativity,. It is reactive criticism.

 

[VancouverWolf]

I just don’t understand the negativity from some people towards him
I’m sure most people including those who are criticising him for his complaints and concerns on the squad would do exactly the same I know I would
If he said nothing the same people would then say he is just a yes man like a lot on her did say about Lage
Damned if he does Damned if he doesn’t
He’s a quality manager we are lucky to have just get behind the guy and support him and the club

A lot of companies and organizations wouldn’t have tolerated his public comments.

Quality manager?…..I haven’t seen that yet from him. Perhaps go back and look at the games under him and look at the stats.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

I just don’t understand the negativity from some people towards him
I’m sure most people including those who are criticising him for his complaints and concerns on the squad would do exactly the same I know I would
If he said nothing the same people would then say he is just a yes man like a lot on her did say about Lage
Damned if he does Damned if he doesn’t
He’s a quality manager we are lucky to have just get behind the guy and support him and the club

I don't think the all the same people who are criticising him and i admit I am one, would also be calling him a "yes man" if he was more circumspect. The "yes man" jibe is normally made by people who don't, or don't want to, understand corporate responsibility. It is a popularlist slogan that appeals to those outside, or on the lower levels of a management structure, who want to feel superior to those who are closer to the decision making process. I felt Lage also displayed poor leadership qualities in his media communications. The difference is that I suspect Large's position was a result of his inexperience, whilst Lopetegui gives the impression that he has calculated the posture in order to promote his own interest. He is clearly a more accomplished than his predecessor, both on and off the field, but that does not always mean he is always acting in a way that benefits the club. I am sure that if he put the same effort into leading the club as he puts into protecting his own image he would be a fine manager.

 

[Bradstonian]

That's the chap. When he retired my Dad, Trevor Rawlins took over.

As a director he had a caravan at Don Everall’s holiday park at New Quay in Wales. Had many great weekends there.

 

[wolvesaywe]

I just don’t understand the negativity from some people towards him
I’m sure most people including those who are criticising him for his complaints and concerns on the squad would do exactly the same I know I would
If he said nothing the same people would then say he is just a yes man like a lot on her did say about Lage
Damned if he does Damned if he doesn’t
He’s a quality manager we are lucky to have just get behind the guy and support him and the club

It's bonkers given his record

Imagine the poor cherubs on here if Mourinho had ever managed us

 

[Ercall Wolves]

Since he became our manager, till the time he did the interview with his TV mate I said nothing negative about him. Is this true? If it is, it isn't constant negativity,. It is reactive criticism.

Then I disagree with you for criticising him about his concerns about the squad he has, sorry

 

[Ercall Wolves]

A lot of companies and organizations wouldn’t have tolerated his public comments.

Quality manager?…..I haven’t seen that yet from him. Perhaps go back and look at the games under him and look at the stats.

I’ve been to every game he’s managed us, I’ll say again he kept us up!
You seem to be unhappy about that

 

[VancouverWolf]

He’s the reason we aren’t playing championship football next season.

There were other factors that helped…….

it wasn’t just JL‘s fantastic attacking style, the huge improvement of shots on goal compared to Lage’s and let’s not forget the huge increase in goals and the fear that other clubs had of us.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

I don't think the all the same people who are criticising him and i admit I am one, would also be calling him a "yes man" if he was more circumspect. The "yes man" jibe is normally made by people who don't, or don't want to, understand corporate responsibility. It is a popularlist slogan that appeals to those outside, or on the lower levels of a management structure, who want to feel superior to those who are closer to the decision making process. I felt Lage also displayed poor leadership qualities in his media communications. The difference is that I suspect Large's position was a result of his inexperience, whilst Lopetegui gives the impression that he has calculated the posture in order to promote his own interest. He is clearly a more accomplished than his predecessor, both on and off the field, but that does not always mean he is always acting in a way that benefits the club. I am sure that if he put the same effort into leading the club as he puts into protecting his own image he would be a fine manager.

Some fair points but I’m sure he is putting 100% into the team

 

[Tojo the grass]

He kept us up, it would be a disaster if he leaves us now but he should keep his grievances in house until the transfer window is closed . It is perfectly possible to have all of these views at the same time.

 

[VancouverWolf]

I’ve been to every game he’s managed us, I’ll say again he kept us up!
You seem to be unhappy about that

Aw come on. Of course I’m glad we stayed up but that’s the past.
I am genuinely worried about next season with JL. Hopefully my doubts will very quickly become a thing of the past if we start winning games.

 

[Evthewolf]

Apologies if this has been discussed already (I have only skimmed through).

The one thing I think you can eliminate from the puzzle, is that any of what is going on, is a smokescreen, like some have suggested.

I have drawn that conclusion from what Doherty said. Things are far from perfect behind the scenes (or similar). A player doesn’t come out with that for the sake of it. He’d leave the mind games to those in charge.

 

[Wolf316]

There were other factors that helped…….

it wasn’t just JL‘s fantastic attacking style, the huge improvement of shots on goal compared to Lage’s and let’s not forget the huge increase in goals and the fear that other clubs had of us.

He had one job and one job only to keep us up and he achieved it with games to spare.

 

[Bradstonian]

Rather than moaning about the “situation” as it stands, I’d far rather the manager looked at the way things are as a challenge and got on with it using his “skills”, which we would be the reason we appointed him, and made a good stab at competing with the rest. Otherwise is comes across as lacking confidence and preparing for a fall.

 

[OLDGOLD]

I just don’t understand the negativity from some people towards him
I’m sure most people including those who are criticising him for his complaints and concerns on the squad would do exactly the same I know I would
If he said nothing the same people would then say he is just a yes man like a lot on her did say about Lage
Damned if he does Damned if he doesn’t
He’s a quality manager we are lucky to have just get behind the guy and support him and the club

I think you are right with the damned if you do, damned if you don't, and for sure we don't want a yes man. I personally think he has gone too far with the media and kept it mode in house, but I can still understand that the way he is playing it helps to save his reputation if it goes tits up. I do think it makes him look a bit of a dick though, and he has previous for that. From where we were at Xmas he did a great job keeping us up, spending quite a bit of money on the way. I am interested to see how it pans out. It would be nice to see some exciting football this season .

 

[AndyY]

Yep noise is good, Silva happy and JL happy, and they really are beasting. They were running double sessions throughout portugal (2nd trip)

Maximising fitness.

Sometimes when in a fight, you want to be there for the 90 and run others into the ground especially if we are going to be chasing the ball

And to be fair, if we have a small squad they all need to be fit and be able to play for 90 mins, if JL doesn’t think the majority of the subs are up to it. Will be interesting to see if JL changes his approach to his use of subs in the first few games, because we know he liked to change things round at the 60-70 min mark before. Can only do that if the “finishers” are as good as the “starters”.

 

[AndyY]

A lot of companies and organizations wouldn’t have tolerated his public comments.

Quality manager?…..I haven’t seen that yet from him. Perhaps go back and look at the games under him and look at the stats.

The stats that matters is that we were safe with 3 games to go and finished 13th, having been bottom not long after he arrived.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

Some fair points but I’m sure he is putting 100% into the team

I do hope so. I'd like to see it work out, but his recent statements worry me.

 

[wwbug]

With a new season about to begin it’s fair to not forget our games under JL. It’s a serious concern.
It’s not the end of the debate for me because those games were dire……. sloppy passing, lack of attacking tactics, very few shots on target, let alone goals.

I can accept JL’s complaint provided we play well, win enough games and we have a respectable GD.

I would say that once we were safe JL made it known that certain players were not to his liking and could look elsewhere.
I am going to guess that was Podence, Alt Nouri , Collins, Jimmy and Moutinho amongst others . Neves and Costa were going anyway,
Job done, and a new era is to begin . Try spinning that top until the tail end.

 

[old wittonian]

Really? According to some on here all the players should be fed up and ****ed off with Julen

Replace some with many.

 

[VancouverWolf]

The stats that matters is that we were safe with 3 games to go and finished 13th, having been bottom not long after he arrived.

That’s fair.

 

[Rhoswolf]

A lot of companies and organizations wouldn’t have tolerated his public comments.

Quality manager?…..I haven’t seen that yet from him. Perhaps go back and look at the games under him and look at the stats.

Suspect @Ercall Wolves attended every single game and has forgotten more about football than many of us know so doubt very much he needs to go back and look at the stats.

 

[berwickwolf]

Some won’t be happy until he’s gone.

Do you think he wants to be here? Genuinely?