Lopetegui

[SingYourHeartsOut]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1786406194875171187

485 signatures already. That'll show him.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

485 signatures already. That'll show him.

Manuel Pellegrini could do a good job at WHU. 2nd spell worked better for Moyes same logic

 

[SuperGran]

485 signatures already. That'll show him.

I think the West Ham forum has been infiltrated by thousands of @Stourport wolf

I’m sure he won’t give a **** about the petition or what the fans think of him.

 

[Wellington Wolf]

He did a great job with us. Left us in a much better place he inherited. Thank you from me

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

Fans all listen to podcasts nowadays, they read all the tactical long reads on The Athletic and other sites about the top European coaches/teams, they share views on social media etc. It results in a generation of fans that are far more knowledgably and more likely to want their club to go for progressive younger coaches that entertain rather than an old clogger that will keep you in the league.

An old clogger that would keep them in the league?….

Ok.

 

[HICKO]

I wish Lop would lop off!
( or words similar to that)
UTW

 

[Fenrir_]

I really think the way he acted in the end here has severely damaged his reputation, in this country at least.

This is the dumb thing about it. Had he complained about the (necessary) sales but got on with the job he was paid for and done exactly what O'Neil has, his stock in this country would have risen

****ed himself over and I am really glad about that!

 

[Scallywolf]

485 signatures already. That'll show him.

And they’re probably all Wolves fans!

Hopefully, another 30,000 to go.

Yes, I know I’m being sarcastic, but Loppy could have handled his departure a lot better if he didn’t spout his mouth after being very well paid, being able to appoint a coach load of assistants and being supported in the January 2023 transfer window!

 

[Monketron]

An old clogger that would keep them in the league?….

Ok.

Yes. Fans want to be entertained now, more than ever. They might accept it for a season or two but eventually they'll want to play 'good' football. You saw it with Wolves fans once Nuno got us stable.

 

[JR WAS KING]

You never know he might have promised his neighbours he'd look after their dogs when they're on their 2 week holiday in benidorm. Bayern will just have to wait.

People in Tettenhall don't go to Benidorm for their holidays

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

Can you give us a lie he's told?

Pick your favorite from this interview:

"When we started pre-season, they told me that it’s impossible to develop this project. And we decided to part ways. I love all the workers, all the players and, above all, the fans — they have an incredible warmth towards me. I still live there, so I feel that. And I wish the best to the owners, to Gary O’Neil (his replacement as head coach), to Matt Hobbs (sporting director), to Matt Wild (general manager), and to all the players. I am always going to be a little wolf.”

And..."It was not easy for me. It was a pity. I remember a lot of workers, and us too, we were crying. The environment and the commitment that we have created at Wolves in a short time is not normal. And I remember this with a big, heavy heart [and fat wallet]. This was special.”

Personally, I find it hard to believe any of it.

 

[brianm]

This is the dumb thing about it. Had he complained about the (necessary) sales but got on with the job he was paid for and done exactly what O'Neil has, his stock in this country would have risen

****ed himself over and I am really glad about that!

Especially given his history, I think he just had to stick it out. Sevilla ended very poorly. Real Madrid was a disaster. He needed to show some ****ing stability.

In his next job, is he going to bang on about new signings and "ambition" again regardless of what the club do?

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Pick your favorite from this interview:

"When we started pre-season, they told me that it’s impossible to develop this project. And we decided to part ways. I love all the workers, all the players and, above all, the fans — they have an incredible warmth towards me. I still live there, so I feel that. And I wish the best to the owners, to Gary O’Neil (his replacement as head coach), to Matt Hobbs (sporting director), to Matt Wild (general manager), and to all the players. I am always going to be a little wolf.”

And..."It was not easy for me. It was a pity. I remember a lot of workers, and us too, we were crying. The environment and the commitment that we have created at Wolves in a short time is not normal. And I remember this with a big, heavy heart [and fat wallet]. This was special.”

Personally, I find it hard to believe any of it.

So no actual lie.

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

So no actual lie.

He did not have a big, heavy heart nor does he (or anybody else) consider himself a little wolf. **** off.

So what do you call it? A misrepresentation? A gross exaggeration? A delusion? Or just bull****? It's not truthful, that's for sure.

By the way, we have no actual information that Jeff lied, but you certainly see a lot of support for that sentiment among mixers...

P.S. The "**** off" is to Lopetegui, not to you.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

He did a great job with us. Left us in a much better place he inherited. Thank you from me

He ay gonna **** ya mate

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

This is the dumb thing about it. Had he complained about the (necessary) sales but got on with the job he was paid for and done exactly what O'Neil has, his stock in this country would have risen

****ed himself over and I am really glad about that!

That's pretty well the reality of it.

 

[Mugwump]

Especially given his history, I think he just had to stick it out. Sevilla ended very poorly. Real Madrid was a disaster. He needed to show some ****ing stability.

In his next job, is he going to bang on about new signings and "ambition" again regardless of what the club do?

I think it depends on what they tell him in his new job. If they get him to sign on one promise, then even before the end of the season tell him there is a money problem, then say he can sign players of a certain value, then change their minds again tell him he cant, i reckon he will have an issue.

Lets face it though, GON complains about not being able to get players and having a small squad when he took the job knowing this in the first place. Its not that different really to how it started with Lopetegui. Hopefully it doesnt escalate in the summer.

 

[Melb-Wolves42]

To me he came across as an arrogant man who thought Wolves were beneath him. The way he treated Raul in that last game of the season was very poor.

 

[brianm]

I think it depends on what they tell him in his new job. If they get him to sign on one promise, then even before the end of the season tell him there is a money problem, then say he can sign players of a certain value, then change their minds again tell him he cant, i reckon he will have an issue.

Good thing he's going to West Ham. They would never.

 

[Macman]

To me he came across as an arrogant man who thought Wolves were beneath him. The way he treated Raul in that last game of the season was very poor.

Agree. I was desperate for him to come to Wolves and absolutely delighted when he joined. However, he seemed to create a lot of baggage and he became more important than the players. I wasnt too unhappy when he left as you could see he was becoming hard work.

Credit where its due as he did pull us out of relegation to survive.

 

[Lisas Husband]

Hate this argument, things change, deal with them, not run away.

It's not running away as such though. If that trust is gone it's either difficult or impossible to get that back.

I'm not an advocate of JL BTW, far from it. I think I was once but GoN has fixed that issue.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Pick your favorite from this interview:

"When we started pre-season, they told me that it’s impossible to develop this project. And we decided to part ways. I love all the workers, all the players and, above all, the fans — they have an incredible warmth towards me. I still live there, so I feel that. And I wish the best to the owners, to Gary O’Neil (his replacement as head coach), to Matt Hobbs (sporting director), to Matt Wild (general manager), and to all the players. I am always going to be a little wolf.”

And..."It was not easy for me. It was a pity. I remember a lot of workers, and us too, we were crying. The environment and the commitment that we have created at Wolves in a short time is not normal. And I remember this with a big, heavy heart [and fat wallet]. This was special.”

Personally, I find it hard to believe any of it.

i just vomited

 

[North West Wanderer]

Agree. I was desperate for him to come to Wolves and absolutely delighted when he joined. However, he seemed to create a lot of baggage and he became more important than the players. I wasnt too unhappy when he left as you could see he was becoming hard work.

Credit where its due as he did pull us out of relegation to survive.

he always thought of himself as too good for us, and look what happened.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

He did not have a big, heavy heart nor does he (or anybody else) consider himself a little wolf. **** off.

So what do you call it? A misrepresentation? A gross exaggeration? A delusion? Or just bull****? It's not truthful, that's for sure.

By the way, we have no actual information that Jeff lied, but you certainly see a lot of support for that sentiment among mixers...

P.S. The "**** off" is to Lopetegui, not to you.

That's entirely your opinion, there's no fact there to say he lied.

Meanwhile the actual facts are that Hobbs told us that the transfer plans changed twice, when there was no reason for that beyond Shi not having told either of them the truth about the finances. Then the lie by omission of Shi telling us that 'Lopetegui is working hard to prepare the team for the season ahead' when in fact he'd already agreed to him leaving.

 

[Wolf316]

he always thought of himself as too good for us, and look what happened.

Yes we stayed in the Premier league.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Yes we stayed in the Premier league.

Having spent a small fortune which has set us right back going forward, which is not his fault by any means, but lets not pretend with that squad and spend, that he is a messiah in keeping us up. He did what he needed to with a much more talented and deeper squad than GON yet GON PPG is not a million miles away at all

 

[John Wolves Fan]

Think he would do quite well at West Ham but don’t like the way he left us

 

[SuperGran]

He ay gonna **** ya mate

If he paid him he might

 

[Minimalist]

Don’t like the bloke; but I really can’t see why West Ham fans would turn their noses up at him, he is clearly a quality and experienced manager.
I actually think he’d be successful at Man Utd…

 

[WickedWolfie]

Whatever your personal view of JL some may get a sense of deja vu about this....

The Football News Show: Enzo Maresca 'could leave Leicester City'

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SuperGran]

Don’t like the bloke; but I really can’t see why West Ham fans would turn their noses up at him, he is clearly a quality and experienced manager.
I actually think he’d be successful at Man Utd…

They don’t see him as an upgrade on moyes

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Don’t like the bloke; but I really can’t see why West Ham fans would turn their noses up at him, he is clearly a quality and experienced manager.
I actually think he’d be successful at Man Utd…

If you can't see why west ham fans are against his appointment, then you're not looking at the full picture. We all know that the days when players, coaches, managers etc have the same emotional investment as the fans are long gone, but we expect ethical behaviour and credibility to be one of the character traits of our leaders.
We are just the last in a line of a string of appointments that, to say the least have stretched his credibility and given outsiders a view on the strength of his character.
I put him in a similar bracket as Hoddle, and he never worked in football management again.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Having spent a small fortune which has set us right back going forward, which is not his fault by any means, but lets not pretend with that squad and spend, that he is a messiah in keeping us up. He did what he needed to with a much more talented and deeper squad than GON yet GON PPG is not a million miles away at all

A small fortune is right.
Cunha, Lemina, Gomes, Sarabia, Dawson and Bentley for about the same cost as Guedes, Collins and Kalajdic the previous Summer.

O'Neil has done well, he's also had Neto, would be interesting to see our record with and without him this season.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

If you can't see why west ham fans are against his appointment, then you're not looking at the full picture. We all know that the days when players, coaches, managers etc have the same emotional investment as the fans are long gone, but we expect ethical behaviour and credibility to be one of the character traits of our leaders.
We are just the last in a line of a string of appointments that, to say the least have stretched his credibility and given an outsiders view on the strength of his character.
I put him in a similar bracket as Hoddle, and he never worked in football management again.

That's a classic. You expect ethical behaviour from your leaders, but blame a guy who walked away because he was repeatedly lied to.

 

[Minimalist]

If you can't see why west ham fans are against his appointment, then you're not looking at the full picture. We all know that the days when players, coaches, managers etc have the same emotional investment as the fans are long gone, but we expect ethical behaviour and credibility to be one of the character traits of our leaders.
We are just the last in a line of a string of appointments that, to say the least have stretched his credibility and given an outsiders view on the strength of his character.
I put him in a similar bracket as Hoddle, and he never worked in football management again.

As I said “I don’t like him”. In fact I have been one of the most forthright in my disdain of his behaviour here.
And I can’t claim to have sought out exactly why West Ham fans are against him. If it’s because of his ego and lack of loyalty then fair enough…. Ironic though if they call him on his loyalty while showing non to Moyes! Heard one on talkSPORT yesterday saying he’d prefer Potter, he jumped the Brighton ship soon as it suited him.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

That's a classic. You expect ethical behaviour from your leaders, but blame a guy who walked away because he was repeatedly lied to.

I know you like him, and know you'll hear no criticism without a strong rebuttal, but it's not just us, do you think ANY club's fans will accept him without strong reservations?
Whataboutism won't crack it with Lopetegui, it is possible to rise above a situation, but he chose not to.

 

[StaffordWolf]

They don’t see him as an upgrade on moyes

Not many would be. Can't see many managers doing what he's done with their squad to be fair.

 

[Wellington Wolf]

If he paid him he might

He did.

Expensive. Didn't live up to reputation and left early when I refused to pay for an unlimited mini bar

 

[North West Wanderer]

A small fortune is right.
Cunha, Lemina, Gomes, Sarabia, Dawson and Bentley for about the same cost as Guedes, Collins and Kalajdic the previous Summer.

O'Neil has done well, he's also had Neto, would be interesting to see our record with and without him this season.

Cunha and co cost 88.5m Euros in the winter
Our previous winter spend in the years before was 5.3m Euros, 3m Euros, 19m Euros due to Podence, 21m Euros due to Jonny and 2.5m Euros.

Have to be fair and compare winter windows, as the spend is drastically different.
In the interests of being fair too, Cunha was a loan with a clause to buy in the summer.

He was backed extremely well.

Your Neto point again is valid, but has been more important to us simply because we have lacked options, which JL did not.

 

[Wolf316]

Cunha and co cost 88.5m Euros in the winter
Our previous winter spend in the years before was 5.3m Euros, 3m Euros, 19m Euros due to Podence, 21m Euros due to Jonny and 2.5m Euros.

Have to be fair and compare winter windows, as the spend is drastically different.
In the interests of being fair too, Cunha was a loan with a clause to buy in the summer.

He was backed extremely well.

Your Neto point again is valid, but has been more important to us simply because we have lacked options, which JL did not.

In how many of those winter windows were we bottom of the league and in serious danger of relegation?