SuperGran
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Points deduction transfer embargo suing the PL
Points deduction transfer embargo suing the PL
And having the audacity to win the Premier league...Payback for there administration con trick in 2002.. .....
I believe FFP was in force before that occurred. And with the best will in the world, its hard to imagine the authorities are too worried about Forest or Everton winning the league any time soon.And having the audacity to win the Premier league...
Reading through their fan forums it seems to me most of their fans actually blame the owners rather than playing the victims card as lots of Forest and Everton fans.
It's interesting to read looking back - no problems at the timeIndeed. The are several pages on ‚‘Foxes Talk‘ about this subject, and what surprised me is that apart from a few with siege mentality, the majority of Leicester fans lay the blame at the door of the owner and the board. A couple even mentioned that this was inevitable after their £93million loss a couple of years ago. No wonder they were trying to sell Jamie Vardy before the start of the 22/23 season.
Istr that FFP and deductions for going in to administration came about specifically because of Leicester in 2002.Payback for there administration con trick in 2002.. .....
Seems like a bit of a hail mary to me. Bet they are absolutely dead to rights?
It’s very ironic that both Notts Forest and Leicester were claimants for compensation from EvertonAt a glance it seems the legal action is to prevent any possibility of points deductions this season which would probably scupper automatic promotion. It looks inevitable that they start next season with negative points wherever they are.
Ironic they were talking about suing Everton. Maybe they're one of those groups who call the lawyers whenever there's anything negative about them.
To be fair I don’t think people are ‘supporting this nonsense’, however we took pretty significant steps to our own detriment to ensure we complied, so understandably many of us think it’s only fair if teams who deliberately took no action to try and met the requirements suffer some sort of penaltyHope they win. And people are still supporting this nonsense. Hilarious.
The latest nonsense, you can be judged on your time in the championship as part of the ffp rules but you can't have points deducted in the championship apparently. Yeah, that seems reasonable.
Spot on this. Whether you agree with FFP/PSR is a wider debate. But last summer we lost our captain, some very well respected and well thought of players. And ultimately then a very good manager. Because we were trying to follow the rules. I have absolutely no sympathy for clubs who chose not to and now find themselves in trouble.To be fair I don’t think people are ‘supporting this nonsense’, however we took pretty significant steps to our own detriment to ensure we complied, so understandably many of us think it’s only fair if teams who deliberately took no action to try and met the requirements suffer some sort of penalty
Well said. Totally agree and still makes me furious that Forest got a pathetic 4 points deduction, and Everton got 4 points back! They should all be suitably punished and hopefully it will cost Leicester their promotion.Spot on this. Whether you agree with FFP/PSR is a wider debate. But last summer we lost our captain, some very well respected and well thought of players. And ultimately then a very good manager. Because we were trying to follow the rules. I have absolutely no sympathy for clubs who chose not to and now find themselves in trouble.
It’s like drink driving really. Everyone knows it’s illegal. It costs me a fortune in taxis etc because I’m not going to do it, so people who choose to do it and get done, tough.
That'll be a 14 point deduction reduced to 10 on appeal.Listening to Simon Jordan on Talksport, it appears that Leicester tried to squirm between arguing that they were under EFL rules and then Premier rules. He seems to think they are bang to rights and will be punished accordingly. He mentions that Leeds and Wolves sold players to avoid fouling the rules and did the right thing.
A bigger breech than Everton!
Looks like the lawyers will continue getting richer as PSR/FFP bites harder.
You missed the EFL punishment, which precedent suggests will be much worse, if they don't go up. Basically they are in a bloody awful position.So they get a deduction at the start of next season (assuming they go up, which no longer looks a given) and presumably they’re still operating at huge losses, so would be expected to have a bit of a fire sale of their promoted squad to avoid further punishment? When trying to compete in the PL? Or have I got it wrong?
Suppose it depends which year in the 3 year cycle is their biggest problem, if it’s the one that falls off then it will help…. a bit..So they get a deduction at the start of next season (assuming they go up, which no longer looks a given) and presumably they’re still operating at huge losses, so would be expected to have a bit of a fire sale of their promoted squad to avoid further punishment? When trying to compete in the PL? Or have I got it wrong?
It would be interesting to have Linker's thoughts on this.
I think it'll be a 2 point deduction, then an appeal that ends in a 2 point bonus.That'll be a 14 point deduction reduced to 10 on appeal.
I'm getting the hang of this.
How can the Premier League deduct points from a club in the Football League?At a glance it seems the legal action is to prevent any possibility of points deductions this season which would probably scupper automatic promotion. It looks inevitable that they start next season with negative points wherever they are.
Ironic they were talking about suing Everton. Maybe they're one of those groups who call the lawyers whenever there's anything negative about them.
Spot on this. Whether you agree with FFP/PSR is a wider debate. But last summer we lost our captain, some very well respected and well thought of players. And ultimately then a very good manager. Because we were trying to follow the rules. I have absolutely no sympathy for clubs who chose not to and now find themselves in trouble.
It’s like drink driving really. Everyone knows it’s illegal. It costs me a fortune in taxis etc because I’m not going to do it, so people who choose to do it and get done, tough.
Just seeing his smug mug without sound is bad enough.It’s never interesting to hear his thoughts….
I think given the choice we’d have liked to have kept Neves and Nunes especially, they’re good players. I know what you mean though.I get your point Jade, but did we actually sell anyone we didn't want to while in a transitional phase last summer?
We knew Neves was going and we had planned Nunes departure the summer before.
I get your point Jade, but did we actually sell anyone we didn't want to while in a transitional phase last summer?
We knew Neves was going and we had planned Nunes departure the summer before.
If it's 4 point deduction or around that then I can see some teams taking the hit and spending silly amounts. Said it before they need to at the end of the season and before the January transfer window have a system in place. Where all clubs in the prem have to publish their accounts and then it is said roughly what they can spend and what they have to sell in order to comply if in breach . Then if there is a failure to comply it should be a standard 12 point deduction and 12 points the next season if there is failure to show they have not balanced their books .
They broke PL rules last year and if they get promoted their place will be conditional on accepting the punishment.How can the Premier League deduct points from a club in the Football League?
The PL has imposed such things in the past but wouldn't necessarily honour an EFL punishment.If Leicester City get promoted, will they still have a transfer embargo imposed on them, or does that only apply if they are in the Football League?
There have been some suggestions that it might happen due to the Premier league wanting more timely punishments and the EFL cooperating. And of course a reciprocal arrangement next season.How can the Premier League deduct points from a club in the Football League?