Leeds v Wolves comms thread.

[Cousins78]

Well one thing we have learnt so far is hwang needs to play up top, been our best player alongside podence for me. RAN and Sa are having shockers

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Leeds have been the better side but we've had the better chances.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

Learning curves,. 'll take a while to get used to the dynamics of playing a 4 under the intensity of the Premier league. Got to preserve with it even when it's not going our way.

Decent half in spells.

Problem with that is we have a league table and our position in it will dictate how long the experiment will go on for. Last season it was three games before Bruno decided we needed points. I predict he'll do the same if we don't get some wins.

 

[wallace]

Frantic half needing an experienced player to slow things down.

 

[thommo1984]

Some good, some bad, at least it's not mind-numbingly boring.

Jose Sa is a mad man. I thought MGW has done pretty well for his first prem game in ages, at least he's showing for it and trying to make things happen. Rusty Ruben and Donk miles off it is killing us in the midfield.

 

[Greeno]

If we got this out of Hwang every week, he is certainly not the problem that needs addressing.

 

[DPE]

Hwang best player so far…

 

[Ned]

There are goals in this for both teams but I’ve got a horrible feeling we lose this later on. They look sharper and fitter all over even though we are by far the better footballing side.

 

[Mutchy]

First bans have been given for stream requests. Don’t do it folks.

 

[JOSWolf]

Also thought both our full backs have been poor. Big improvement from them needed second half. We lack a focal point as well.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

There are goals in this for both teams but I’ve got a horrible feeling we lose this later on. They look sharper and fitter all over even though we are by far the better footballing side.

They are so much more athletic. Other than Neto for Rodrigo + Hwang for Bamford I am not sure athletically we'd have another player in their team in like for like positions.

 

[Wolfiebill]

Only if it's allowed (I don't want to fall foul of "The Police", but if possible could someone post a link to the radio commentary for the match, please?

 

[Ned]

Said our goal was "against the run of play" when they'd barely been in our half!

Gotta hope that's Sa's worst half of the season! Three screw-ups, lucky to allow only one goal
Really can't believe that wasn't a penalty. A gift from VAR

Sa’s not had any game time in the summer. He looks completely out of sorts.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

Also thought both our full backs have been poor. Big improvement from them needed second half. We lack a focal point as well.

Ran looks like he's hungover

 

[JOSWolf]

There are goals in this for both teams but I’ve got a horrible feeling we lose this later on. They look sharper and fitter all over even though we are by far the better footballing side.

Have to ask why do they look sharper and fitter than us? This should not be the case.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Have to ask why do they look sharper and fitter than us? This should not be the case.

They are just more athletic as players

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

Lucky to get away with that penalty shout,Sa been awful
Been all over the place at the back,no midfield, otherwise pretty good
MGW doesnt look a £35 million player so far
Hwang has done well though so far,Neto ok
Donk should have scored but a good save tbf
Could go either way

 

[Aurum Lupus]

Start fining the defenders who keep ****ing about with it in the area when under pressure

And keepers!!!

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Have to ask why do they look sharper and fitter than us? This should not be the case.

I think they're just quicker, it's not fitness.

Donk and Neves aren't really mobile.

There two in the middle are.

In fact, most of their side is. You would think it's only going one way considering we have no useful subs and they'll freshen it up.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Lucky to get away with that penalty shout,Sa been awful
Been all over the place at the back,no midfield, otherwise pretty good
MGW doesnt look a £35 million player so far
Hwang has done well though so far,Neto ok
Donk should have scored but a good save tbf
Could go either way

Best assessment I've seen yet

 

[JOSWolf]

Ran looks like he's hungover

He has been very disappointing so far as has Jonny.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

Really can't believe that wasn't a penalty. A gift from VAR

Wouldn't have been surprised if it was given but.... how was it any different to the two late challenges on Neves that didn't draw a free kick? Football is a contact sport... both players were going for the ball, both had momentum, one player won it, the other had momentum that he couldn't change and made contact.

 

[JOSWolf]

They are just more athletic as players

A problem we needed to resolve this summer but havent.

 

[Wonder Boyo]

Have to ask why do they look sharper and fitter than us? This should not be the case.

On the hand, Leeds put so much into that first half that they might tire before us. We can hope.

 

[Aurum Lupus]

No surprise at all. Theres only two of them and its the same people (largely) as always.
Its not 3-4-3 thats the problem, 4 at the back isnt the solution unless we have 3 in midfield and better quality to support and protect Neves.

With Moutinho out we don't have 3 "first" choice midfielders!

 

[VancouverWolf]

They are just more athletic as players

There shouldn’t be much of a difference but there is

 

[Contrarian]

The one thing that really does worry me after that half is we don't seem to have learned from the pitfalls we exhibited during our failed attempts to play 4 under Nuno. Very fragile when they're running at us and we allow ourselves to be overloaded too easily.

I don't think we've been that bad when Leeds are running at us, we've managed it quite well. The problem seems that when we win the ball from them, we're giving it straight back. We've not been able to play through them - though we have done OK from some long passes over them. It's very uncontrolled. I don't think we've been that bad - surely we have to allow some time to settle and this is exactly what will happen when you change the core formation from one we've played for 5 years.

Loads of chances, hectic football, thought this was what fans wanted? Or would we prefer the old way of a boring 0-0 at half time (or 1-0 down) without creating a single chance? 7 shots each , we've had 1 more on target from them. Don't get what the problem is - surely this is what 4 at the back is always going to give you? More goals at either end? (and if we had Raul, reckon we'd be winning, too)

 

[JOSWolf]

So frustrating that central midfield is again a big issue today so far. We can all mostly see it. Why cant the men in charge? Its only been four years!

 

[Kebab Warrior]

They are just more athletic as players

This, so we need to show more guile. But can we?

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Really hope Bruno doesn't **** it and go back to a five. That would be alarming after all pre season trying four.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Wouldn't have been surprised if it was given but.... how was it any different to the two late challenges on Neves that didn't draw a free kick? Football is a contact sport... both players were going for the ball, both had momentum, one player won it, the other had momentum that he couldn't change and made contact.

Because if you throw your fist through the air, miss the ball and punch the opposition it is at minimum a penalty. Patricio got done against France with it at the Euro's if memory serves and he won the ball

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

Not ruling him out, far from it but I had a feeling last seasons Sa was a fluke and he’ll be a lot poorer this season. Hope I’m wrong of course

Wont say its a fluke but his performance levels were beyond outstanding its highly unlikely he will be close to matching those levels and we could be 10 points or so worse off

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

This, so we need to show more guile. But can we?

Don't think any guile can make up for this deficit, especially playing higher up the pitch.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Wont say its a fluke but his performance levels were beyond outstanding its highly unlikely he will be close to matching those levels and we could be 10 points or so worse off

Statistically it is basically impossible to repeat his level of performance, unless he is like prime Buffon

 

[rg4352]

Like how more attacking we look in a 4 problem is it’s always going to be heart in mouth until we make the changes in midfield, because that’s pretty much unchanged from when Nuno gave it a go. Less worried about upfront now if we play Hwang in the position he’s clearly best in and we do bring Batman in. But on this showing I’d argue we need 2 CM’s in rather than one

 

[The Clock]

With Moutinho out we don't have 3 "first" choice midfielders!

Without Moutinho we have no one to pass the ball to. He’s a big miss

 

[Spellbinder]

Second half underway. No changes

 

[JOSWolf]

Like how more attacking we look in a 4 problem is it’s always going to be heart in mouth until we make the changes in midfield, because that’s pretty much unchanged from when Nuno gave it a go. Less worried about upfront now if we play Hwang in the position he’s clearly best in and we do bring Batman in. But on this showing I’d argue we need 2 CM’s in rather than one

We need two new central midfielders if Bruno isnt going to trust Cundle and Ronan.

 

[Ned]

Don't think any guile can make up for this deficit, especially playing higher up the pitch.

Needs more athletic players further back for us so the players with guile can actually go to work.

 

[Premier Quality]

Hwang is playing very well by the way, but I doubt many will want to make note of that.

I’m not a fan of his, but he’s done some good things that half.