January 2021 Transfer Window

[Nige100]

I hope so mate, i really hope so! Starting tomorrow please!

Hope is all we have now so let's just have alot of it. With the players we have I would expect a minimum of the 15pts we realistically require. In the form they are in I'm not sure. Tomorrow would be a good time to turn form around.

 

[Supadavewolf]

I haven't written Willian off I've said he isn't the answer as the problems were apparent when Raul was playing I actually think he is a very good player.

The issues are not having a commanding centre back and creative midfielder player both issues have been here for at least 18 months and we needed to freshen things up to give ourselves a fighting chance as all the other bottom teams are doing.

Carrying on as we are will see us in the championship next season.

I see what you mean now. I thought "Jose isn't the answer" meant as a striker, not in terms of the overall recruitment this window. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

A lot of posts on here for a team not doing any business.

 

[Contrarian]

I mean yes we are playing terribly. Bottom of the form table and we look desperately poor.

But this is a group of players who have finished seventh twice. We have consistently been the seventh best side in England over the past 2 years.

If they can't get up for our current situation, then there needs to be a change in management.

To say the club have 'accepted relegation' for a window where we have strengthened - and sit in 14th - is odd, and grossly hyperbolic.

No, not "this" group of players. "That" group of players. The three leading goalscorers in "that" group of players who finished 7th are not with us. Neither is the other key wing back.

RAN, Vitinha, Semedo, Jose, Silva, Hoever were not the group of players that finished 7th yet are all regularly in "this" group.

Past glories mean nothing. Can we carry some spare points over from last season?

Also, "that" group of players were already clearly fading towards the end of the season, they didn't rise to 7th. They fell to it, from a position of being on the edge of the Champions League.

End of season form can give a good clue as to how a team will go into the next season. Remember Leicester were bottom and adrift for most of a season, then won 7 out of their last 9 to save themselves? Then continued that form and won the league. In contrast, remember Watford were neck and neck with us battling for Europea League. Finished on a bad run... ended up safe mid table. But relegated the next season.

Where we were a year ago is meaningless. Current form is important at telling you where you are *now* with this group of players and what is going to happen next in this season. We are sinking until we visibly turn a corner. What that group did a year ago... if anything the heart of that group is gone now anyway. And those remaining may be thinking it's time to move on somewhere their skills are appreciated not stifled.

 

[Deleted member 7041]

I also dispair as I dont see where even a goal is coming from let alone a win the team look broken and needed to be freshened up with addressing a few of the issues we have.

Jose isnt the answer we were just as bad when Raul was fit.

I dispair at dis message, dis attitude will get us nowhere. When I read dis I thought dis is tripe. Lol

 

[Golden_Wolf]

This is the major issue at no other club does a poor run of form be allowed to go on for months. Nothing to replace it with. No depth always been a pron with Nuno and his small squad nowhere to turn when players form crashes.

I mean Sheff United & Fulham are arguably in worse form (over the season) & they haven't sacked their managers.

Agree re the depth thing. It does limit things a bit.

 

[Supadavewolf]

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They are too friendly with each other and nothing changes. Not accepting these moronic comments that teams below us are worse. Sheffield and fulham have given teams a very good game. I cannot say that about us. I wonder what rauls commitment is like when we are in the championship.

So, you don't accept that "teams below us are worse"?!

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I haven't written Willian off I've said he isn't the answer as the problems were apparent when Raul was playing I actually think he is a very good player.

The issues are not having a commanding centre back and creative midfielder player both issues have been here for at least 18 months and we needed to freshen things up to give ourselves a fighting chance as all the other bottom teams are doing.

Carrying on as we are will see us in the championship next season.

We absolutely won't be in the championship next season

 

[Tipton Wolves]

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So, you don't accept that "teams below us are worse"?!

Not on current form. We are a lot worse. Sheffield would beat us through sheer determination. Fulham would beat us with pace. Albion in the key battles.

 

[Nige100]

No, not "this" group of players. "That" group of players. The three leading goalscorers in "that" group of players who finished 7th are not with us. Neither is the other key wing back.

RAN, Vitinha, Semedo, Jose, Silva, Hoever were not the group of players that finished 7th yet are all regularly in "this" group.

Past glories mean nothing. Can we carry some spare points over from last season?

Also, "that" group of players were already clearly fading towards the end of the season, they didn't rise to 7th. They fell to it, from a position of being on the edge of the Champions League.

End of season form can give a good clue as to how a team will go into the next season. Remember Leicester were bottom and adrift for most of a season, then won 7 out of their last 9 to save themselves? Then continued that form and won the league. In contrast, remember Watford were neck and neck with us battling for Europea League. Finished on a bad run... ended up safe mid table. But relegated the next season.

Where we were a year ago is meaningless. Current form is important at telling you where you are *now* with this group of players and what is going to happen next in this season. We are sinking until we visibly turn a corner. What that group did a year ago... if anything the heart of that group is gone now anyway. And those remaining may be thinking it's time to move on somewhere their skills are appreciated not stifled.

Fantastic post.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Being brutally honest has he really been that great all season? Same applies to Moutinho. To me both have been poor. The stats for both would probably sum it up as well. Even Neves hasnt looked amazing but is still by far the best.

Agreed. Both are shadows of the players they can be.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Not on current form. We are a lot worse. Sheffield would beat us through sheer determination. Fulham would beat us with pace. Albion in the key battles.

Yet two out of those 3 lost to us and the other won with some poor refereeing

 

[Brixton Wanderer]

A bad run of form that has gone on for months now. How much longer can we afford to keep playing them game after game whilst they put in continually poor performances? Where are the other options to compete with them?

What we can’t afford to do is just keep signing players when our own have bad patches or get injuries - it’s an ill-educated and short sighted approach.

Get to the summer, decide what system we want to play and recruit for it, but we then must stick with it as we need to be confident in our approach and our analysis of the squad.

If the right midfielder can be bought in tonight, then we’ll bring them in - but what happens if we do that and then they don’t perform or get injured? Do we just keep buying and buying? Do we have no interest in coaching our squad any more when it’s not going to plan?

I remember people on here saying ‘we should be all over Joelinton’ but then want to criticise the club over the fee we paid for Fabio. Can’t have it both ways.

 

[reanswolf]

He undoubtedly looks better in a Belgian team packed with quality players like Du Bruyne, Tielemans, Hazard, Praet, Lukaku, but take the exceptional talent that is Du Bruyne out of it, then Dendoncker would come under much more scrutiny. He simply performs a spoiler role at Belgium and that is adequate because of the talent around him.

Why isn't the same happening at Wolves? As I have always said, he creates a conundrum for us. Take him out, our midfield is weaker still, put him in, it is devoid of creativity, especially in a midfield two set-up. But he has been poor for several weeks, except the Palace home game when he was good. Poor defensively, poor offensively, non-existent creatively.

But.......I hope he finds some form again and scores tomorrow night, I really do. I still maintain that in a midfield 2 he is simply not good enough, but in a midfield 3 like he plays for Belgium, he can specialise in sweeping up and spoiling. The 2 roles are very different. Belgium would never expect him to be the creator or box to box man. He was effective for Wolves the past two seasons when we played Mouts, Neves and Donk as a midfield-3. But rarely has any combination of 2 in CM been effective for us. We seem to be reverting to this.

Its a bit like Coady who excels as sweeper but is susceptible a in a 4-man defence.

Apples and pairs.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

No, not "this" group of players. "That" group of players. The three leading goalscorers in "that" group of players who finished 7th are not with us. Neither is the other key wing back.

RAN, Vitinha, Semedo, Jose, Silva, Hoever were not the group of players that finished 7th yet are all regularly in "this" group.

Past glories mean nothing. Can we carry some spare points over from last season?

Also, "that" group of players were already clearly fading towards the end of the season, they didn't rise to 7th. They fell to it, from a position of being on the edge of the Champions League.

End of season form can give a good clue as to how a team will go into the next season. Remember Leicester were bottom and adrift for most of a season, then won 7 out of their last 9 to save themselves? Then continued that form and won the league. In contrast, remember Watford were neck and neck with us battling for Europea League. Finished on a bad run... ended up safe mid table. But relegated the next season.

Where we were a year ago is meaningless. Current form is important at telling you where you are *now* with this group of players and what is going to happen next in this season. We are sinking until we visibly turn a corner. What that group did a year ago... if anything the heart of that group is gone now anyway. And those remaining may be thinking it's time to move on somewhere their skills are appreciated not stifled.

Good rebuttal.

 

[Tipton Wolves]

Yet two out of those 3 lost to us and the other won with some poor refereeing

Delusional. Fulham battered us. Sheffield second halfshould have taken a point at least and what poor decisions? Stop clutching at straws, our team was embarrassed by them.

 

[Contrarian]

Fantastic post.

Thanks!

There were a few complete recent matches of ours on Youtube. The Arsenal 3-1 win, the Man City match. If still there, go watch the Arsenal match. It is a completely different team to the one we have seen since return from lockdown, really. A few players are the same, but look shadows of what they were then. I guess it's a synergy, the players alongside them who they worked well with have gone/aged/lost interest. It's a good watch!

Anyway, it's watching those and highlights of us back then made we realise - that team has gone.

Now I wouldn't give up hope if Nuno building another..just don't see any signs of it just yet.

 

[Supadavewolf]

Not on current form. We are a lot worse. Sheffield would beat us through sheer determination. Fulham would beat us with pace. Albion in the key battles.

That's not what you said, Tipton. "current form" now makes sense.

Look, I'm sure you're a lovely fella. I'm guessing that big dogs come up and lick your hand.

You're clearly a passionate Wolves supporter, and I wouldn't argue with your above points. I just wish you could accept that we're not nailed-on 100% certainties for the big R, which is the impression (rightly or wrongly) some of us get from your posts.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

That's not what you said, Tipton. "current form" now makes sense.

Look, I'm sure you're a lovely fella. I'm guessing that big dogs come up and lick your hand.

You're clearly a passionate Wolves supporter, and I wouldn't argue with your above points. I just wish you could accept that we're not nailed-on 100% certainties for the big R, which is the impression (rightly or wrongly) some of us get from your posts.

Nonsense! We have accepted relegation already and have already put in a bid for Darren Huckerby

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Delusional. Fulham battered us. Sheffield second halfshould have taken a point at least and what poor decisions? Stop clutching at straws, our team was embarrassed by them.

Clutching at straws? we won both games

You're getting all stiff over 3 teams who have won as many games as us this season collectively.

 

[Supadavewolf]

You're getting all stiff over 3 teams who have won as many games as us this season collectively.

Ooooh, Matron!

 

[JOSWolf]

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So, you don't accept that "teams below us are worse"?!

They are playing more positively in most cases recently. Current form table has us right down at the bottom or right near it unless I am mistaken.

 

[Deleted member 5340]

17 games left. Do players not rediscover form?

Dunno... I'll ask that shower of **** that helped drop us two devisions in consecutive seasons... See if they can shed any light on it.

 

[JOSWolf]

Fantastic post.

I also totally agree. Great post by Contrarian. Just what I think but put far better than I could.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Dunno... I'll ask that shower of **** that helped drop us two devisions in consecutive seasons.

Apart from the fact not one single one of those players would even make our current bench

 

[JOSWolf]

No, not "this" group of players. "That" group of players. The three leading goalscorers in "that" group of players who finished 7th are not with us. Neither is the other key wing back.

RAN, Vitinha, Semedo, Jose, Silva, Hoever were not the group of players that finished 7th yet are all regularly in "this" group.

Past glories mean nothing. Can we carry some spare points over from last season?

Also, "that" group of players were already clearly fading towards the end of the season, they didn't rise to 7th. They fell to it, from a position of being on the edge of the Champions League.

End of season form can give a good clue as to how a team will go into the next season. Remember Leicester were bottom and adrift for most of a season, then won 7 out of their last 9 to save themselves? Then continued that form and won the league. In contrast, remember Watford were neck and neck with us battling for Europea League. Finished on a bad run... ended up safe mid table. But relegated the next season.

Where we were a year ago is meaningless. Current form is important at telling you where you are *now* with this group of players and what is going to happen next in this season. We are sinking until we visibly turn a corner. What that group did a year ago... if anything the heart of that group is gone now anyway. And those remaining may be thinking it's time to move on somewhere their skills are appreciated not stifled.

Excellent post mate.

 

[JOSWolf]

Yet two out of those 3 lost to us and the other won with some poor refereeing

We brought the defeat to the **** on ourselves. Lets not get deluded here. We were dreadful against them.

 

[Supadavewolf]

They are playing more positively in most cases recently. Current form table has us right down at the bottom or right near it unless I am mistaken.

Quite right, but the original wording didn't specify current form. That's why I queried it.

After we thump the Arsenal, we'll be sailing up that form table.

I wish...

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

We brought the defeat to the **** on ourselves. Lets not get deluded here. We were dreadful against them.

We could easily have gotten a point. Either way we did beat Fulham and sheff utd did we not?

 

[JOSWolf]

Good rebuttal.

Fair play to you mate. We may not agree all the time on here but I always find you very fair and none of the insults etc when debating on here. Good to see.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

They are playing more positively in most cases recently. Current form table has us right down at the bottom or right near it unless I am mistaken.

Didn't realise you got bonus points for positive performances

 

[JOSWolf]

We could easily have gotten a point. Either way we did beat Fulham and sheff utd did we not?

We were **** against a very poor Albion side. No ifs or buts in my opinion. Of course we beat Fulham and Sheff Utd. How long ago was that? Months. We also contrived to play terribly at Burnley and lose and throw away a 2 goal lead at Brighton in this shocking run we are on. We also failed to beat Newcastle at home.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356316407332544512

Good luck Luke

 

[JOSWolf]

Didn't realise you got bonus points for positive performances

Most below have actually won a game recently. When did we last win a game in the league out of interest. Any idea where we sit in the current form table?

 

[SuperGran]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1356316407332544512

Good luck Luke

Great much better than being stuck in u23s hopefully get some game time

 

[Tipton Wolves]

Didn't realise you got bonus points for positive performances

Explain the last 10 games then. I bet you think we battered chelsea when in reality, giroud should have finished us off. Do you think we destroyed leeds too? We have been shocking.

 

[Tipton Wolves]

Most below have actually won a game recently. When did we last win a game in the league out of interest. Any idea where we sit in the current form table?

He has blinded faith. Each post thinking we are capable of still getting into europe. Would tell you we are closer to 7th than relegation and tosh like that.

 

[maws]

Delusional. Fulham battered us. Sheffield second halfshould have taken a point at least and what poor decisions? Stop clutching at straws, our team was embarrassed by them.

Sheffield United should have beaten us? You need to rewatch it!!
Fulham 10 shots Wolves 15
On target Fulham 2 Wolves 5, but we were battered?

This LSD thread is getting everywhere

 

[AndyWolves]

Most below have actually won a game recently. When did we last win a game in the league out of interest. Any idea where we sit in the current form table?

Yep, were ****. But doesn't get exhausting being negative all the time?

 

[maws]

Explain the last 10 games then. I bet you think we battered chelsea when in reality, giroud should have finished us off. Do you think we destroyed leeds too? We have been shocking.

It works both ways, we deserved 3 points against Newcastle a point against United and Villa abd I’d argue all 3 against Southampton whose keeper got motm. That’s football