Gary O'Neil - tactics

[Chisels_n_ommers]

Well said.

We'll give the fella a chance and get behind him - we're Black Country folk and that's what we do

 

[Westbakejazz]

His tactics at Bournemouth were probably to consolidate and play on the counter, trying to scrape points to keep them up.

Whilst we *could* be in a relegation scrap, there's no need to adopt that mentality from the off. He's got free reign to be positive and use whatever tactics he likes.

He has a much more talented pool of players at his disposal

Yes but as most posters are saying, he’s not that type of manager. You just can’t change, it’s not as simple as turning a tap on

 

[Dan G WWFC]

This squad is better than anything gary o neil
Has ever come close to coaching or even playing with in his career in football!!!

I think GON should have no issues other than dealing with players who won’t have a clue as to how the hell a bloke not good enough for Bournemouth has become their manager, when they signed to play under Lopetegui not a guy with less than 8 months of managerial experience.

Didn't O'Neil have a decent premier league career and played in Europe with Middlesbrough.

 

[Westbakejazz]

The only positive from this situation is that with him as head coach, Wolves will have an English Manager and perhaps referees would be more generous to Wolves than they were for a recent number of seasons, when Wolves had a foreigner as head coach.

Really

 

[Dan G WWFC]

His tactics at Bournemouth were probably to consolidate and play on the counter, trying to scrape points to keep them up.

Whilst we *could* be in a relegation scrap, there's no need to adopt that mentality from the off. He's got free reign to be positive and use whatever tactics he likes.

He has a much more talented pool of players at his disposal

I wouldn't look that deep into what he did at Bournemouth. I wouldn't even take anything from United on Monday either. Give him 3 games and then decide

 

[Highlandwolf2]

Blimey... He is being judged before he is appointed and before he has started work. What little I know is that he did an amazing job last season and we should at least give him more respect than being shown by many on here. IF he "fails" (whatever that means) the fault is Shi's not his. Get behind him!

 

[Adrian_Monk]

His backroom staff have previously been Shaun Cooper, Gareth Stewart and Tommy Elphick.....names you can bet the likes of Joao Gomes and Mattheus Nunes are chomping at the bit to work with

 

[Westbakejazz]

Didn't O'Neil have a decent premier league career and played in Europe with Middlesbrough.

I hear what you’re saying, but what’s that got to do with coaching 200 million pounds worth of players

 

[JadeWolf]

His backroom staff have previously been Shaun Cooper, Gareth Stewart and Tommy Elphick.....names you can bet the likes of Joao Gomes and Mattheus Nunes are chomping at the bit to work with

Let’s be fair we’d never heard of any of Lopetegui’s backroom team either.

 

[Bostin]

Yes but as most posters are saying, he’s not that type of manager. You just can’t change, it’s not as simple as turning a tap on

You're basing his whole managerial ethos on one relegation scrap of a season at Bournemouth?

 

[KBWWFC]

That's not something we know in fairness.

He doesn't have an established backroom team.
Who will he bring?
We're placing this responsibility on those who hired Dr Death and cobbled together Lage's backroom team.

 

[Westbakejazz]

Blimey... He is being judged before he is appointed and before he has started work. What little I know is that he did an amazing job last season and we should at least give him more respect than being shown by many on here. IF he "fails" (whatever that means) the fault is Shi's not his. Get behind him!

Come on accept reality chap, you can shout your post from the rooftop, but we all know if it turns out to be turgid football, the fans will voice their opinion, it’s called human nature

 

[KBWWFC]

You're basing his whole managerial ethos on one relegation scrap of a season at Bournemouth?

What else do we have to go on? He's an absolute novice!

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Let’s be fair we’d never heard of any of Lopetegui’s backroom team either.

That's true, but they had worked with him at Sevilla, Real Madrid, Spain and Porto. As opposed to Portsmouth and Bournemouth.

 

[StourWolves]

He used 8 different formations at Bournemouth. I don't think he has a clue about his preferred formation:

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Think the 8 formations is a bit harsh. For instance is there really much of a difference between 442, 442 double six and 4411.. Could even argue the 4411 is very similar to 4231. Wouldn't read to much into the formations personally, it's more down to the style of play being consistent throughout or a clear game plan depending on the team we're up against

 

[JamesWolves]

What else do we have to go on? He's an absolute novice!

I like the phrase PE teacher

 

[KBWWFC]

I like the phrase PE teacher

Shhhhh I got told off for saying that yesterday

 

[Lichfieldroadwolf]

We should not be blinkered into thinking we know too much about a coach who has 37 games experience at a relegation fodder club.

He took over a team that had just lost 9 - 0. Everyone's certs to go down.

What would you expect him to do going in to that?

This is his big chance, going in to a club that's got enough talent there to not have to play in a backs to the wall style (at least not every game!).

Eddie Howe was a different manager at Bournemouth to what he is with Newcastle. We can only hope the same with O Neil.

It's a bit foolish to judge him on his first couple of games with us - tough tough games.

O Neil is an unknown to a large degree. Better to have an unknown, they could be anything, than a has been failure.

We should also not be blinkered into thinking a bloke with so little experience has any credentials to manage this football club.

 

[Clifton Wolf]

Please Gazza just don't play Cunha up top on his own

 

[KBWWFC]

We should also not be blinkered into thinking a bloke with so little experience has any credentials to manage this football club.

We talking about Hobbs, Shi, and the rest of the senior leadership team?

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

That's true, but they had worked with him at Sevilla, Real Madrid, Spain and Porto. As opposed to Portsmouth and Bournemouth.

I love how Real Madrid is constantly mentioned as though his time there was anything to be proud of!

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

We should also not be blinkered into thinking a bloke with so little experience has any credentials to manage this football club.

That's daft isn't it? They all have to start somewhere. He clearly has something about him as a manager.

 

[wolfslair]

Didn't O'Neil have a decent premier league career and played in Europe with Middlesbrough.

Still doesn’t mean he played with the calibre of what he will be coaching here.
More than half of his career was below the prem level.

 

[Lichfieldroadwolf]

That's daft isn't it? They all have to start somewhere. He clearly has something about him as a manager.

Not daft really, most people who start off in the premier league with so little first team coaching experience fail. Just facts. Ive nothing against the bloke but hes still an apprentice, if I started out in my job being put in a high position because i'd had shown a bit of promise i'd have been out of my depth.

 

[Bradstonian]

What else do we have to go on? He's an absolute novice!

Out of interest, are there any examples of "novice" managers going on to do quite well in the game?

 

[wolfslair]

That's daft isn't it? They all have to start somewhere. He clearly has something about him as a manager.

A premier league job shouldn’t be a starting point….. it is a recepie for disaster.

The fact he couldn’t even get a championship job over the summer is a worry for me as there were some available.

This is a cheap and no ambition hire of a person it will cost peanuts in salary on and will be easier to control and cost little to sack.

So the perfect hire for a Chinese owned business

 

[Lichfieldroadwolf]

We talking about Hobbs, Shi, and the rest of the senior leadership team?

Could very well be

 

[Adrian_Monk]

I love how Real Madrid is constantly mentioned as though his time there was anything to be proud of!

Regardless, he still worked there, and whilst it was disastrous, he joined them at a time when it was always going to go backwards before it went forwards (replacing Ronaldo with an 18-year old Vinicius Jnr)

 

[Westbakejazz]

You're basing his whole managerial ethos on one relegation scrap of a season at Bournemouth?

Like I said another post , let’s see where we are at Christmas.

 

[Bradstonian]

Not daft really, most people who start off in the premier league with so little first team coaching experience fail. Just facts. Ive nothing against the bloke but hes still an apprentice, if I started out in my job being put in a high position because i'd had shown a bit of promise i'd have been out of my depth.

Pep Guardiola started his senior managerial career at Barcelona. Look how that turned out.

 

[KBWWFC]

That's daft isn't it? They all have to start somewhere. He clearly has something about him as a manager.

They normally cut their teeth for a few seasons in the lower leagues.
Look what happens when certain managers are fast-tracked to the big time way too soon based on "having something about them".

Lampard
Gerrard
Gary Neville

This is not a job for a novice.

 

[wolfslair]

Pep Guardiola started his senior managerial career at Barcelona. Look how that turned out.

He was groomed in the system there and did a great job in the apprentice job with the B team, after being a player indoctrinated with the philosophy and ethos of the club from a youngster as a player.

He was always going to succeed there. Look at the mentors and people he had.

Using him to defend GON hire is hilarious as they aren’t close to comparable

 

[Bacon Sandwich]

A Bournemouth fan's view.
You will be depressed...

 

[ombyman]

Maybe with a preseason Gary will get chance to show what he can do, instead of the fire fighting he had to do at Bournemouth.....ah, bit of a problem.....his first game is on Monday at Old Trafford.

What a colossal **** up

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

Regardless, he still worked there, and whilst it was disastrous, he joined them at a time when it was always going to go backwards before it went forwards (replacing Ronaldo with an 18-year old Vinicius Jnr)

He worked there for 3 months. He was their worst manager of recent times. Maybe he was unlucky with the timing, maybe he didn't do a very good job?
Former Spain and Sevilla manager might work better for him, rather than be reminded that he is the guy who flunked the biggest job in football.

 

[Lichfieldroadwolf]

Pep Guardiola started his senior managerial career at Barcelona. Look how that turned out.

Gary Neville, Alan Shearer, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Zola, Souness, Keane the list goes on....

 

[Highlandwolf2]

Come on accept reality chap, you can shout your post from the rooftop, but we all know if it turns out to be turgid football, the fans will voice their opinion, it’s called human nature

That is quite likely and I can accept him being called out if we are rubbish etc etc. But what irks me is that he is being bad named before a ball has even been kicked under his tutelage. FWIW (which is not a lot...) he would not be my choice - although I have no idea who would accept a job at this moment at Primark Wolves.

 

[Tezthewolvesfan]

lets be honest, the bloke is a chancer. he got the job because he was there at bournemouth. then they sacked him. he has no "tactics", he just needs a salary

Harsh, hardly a chancer. He got offered the job and kept Bournemouth up.

However we need a proven Premier League manager not a novice, hope he proves us wrong.

 

[Streathamwolf]

You're basing his whole managerial ethos on one relegation scrap of a season at Bournemouth?

Nothing like jumping to a conclusion based on his own prejudices is there? .

 

[Streathamwolf]

A Bournemouth fan's view.
You will be depressed...

That will no doubt be as well balanced as the most extreme view you can find on the Mix.