Fair Play Norwich - Pretty Powerful Stuff

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Take a moment to watch this through to the end, it's a pretty powerful message.

https://x.com/NorwichCityFC/status/1711630140227064183?s=20

 

[oldgoldheart]

Take a moment to watch this through to the end, it's a pretty powerful message.

https://x.com/NorwichCityFC/status/1711630140227064183?s=20

i sat in the second north bank for years with my wife. we now sit in the BQ. in front of us was a really cheery bloke who travelled up from the south of england. then one day he didnt come. he had committed suicide. i would never, ever have guessed he was at risk. RIP

 

[Thank you Sir Jack]

Take a moment to watch this through to the end, it's a pretty powerful message.

https://x.com/NorwichCityFC/status/1711630140227064183?s=20

Incredible piece of film. Thank you for posting it.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

Wow that’s powerful got a little dust in my eyes at the end of it

 

[Jefe]

Suicide is the biggest killer of men under the age of 50, and as this excellent video suggests, it's not always the ones who overtly come across as depressed.

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Well.

I didn’t see that coming.

 

[The House of Wolves]

Just shed a tear for the first time this year. Oh man that hit me.

 

[S G Wolves]

Tough video to watch, thanks for posting.

 

[SuperGran]

had a friend who committed suicide a few years ago he was
the life and soul of parties you would have never guessed he was depressed. The first warning came when he stopped posting on social media he was someone who posted jokes and comments on a daily basis and so prompted people to contact him, the first time they found him in time, the second it was too late.

 

[Mutchy]

Powerfully done.
Smiling depression is a very real condition.

 

[Hazza]

i sat in the second north bank for years with my wife. we now sit in the BQ. in front of us was a really cheery bloke who travelled up from the south of england. then one day he didnt come. he had committed suicide. i would never, ever have guessed he was at risk. RIP

My friend was the same, we beat Norwich 5-0 at home and next day …..

Never forget it, went to Germany Pre season with him and all seemed fine, then by the February he’d gone.

Such a shock

 

[TF2Wolf]

Powerful message and one that resonates.

I’m hesitant and not sure whether to share but I will (mainly because I’m pretty anonymous on this site) & it’s in the hope that if someone is feeling like I felt they might read this and realise there is a different option than committing suicide.

A number of years ago I reached such a low point in my life that I tried to end it all.

I planned it all meticulously (or so I thought) but was found at the last moment after taking an overdose.

No one I socialise with knows as far as I’m aware that I tried to take my life and my ex-wife I think was just embarrassed so didn’t publicise the fact and didn’t want to really address the issues that had caused my reaching this decision and maybe it was one of the factors that led to our divorce.

This was before I had my two wonderful boys and I am truly thankful that after my divorce I got custody of my two lads which helped provide me with a real focus and I realise if I had been successful I would have missed the wonders and joys (as well as the pitfalls) of being a single dad and bringing up my lads.

Sometimes I see on this site how some post towards others without seemingly considering the possible mental state the other poster is in at the time.

I know from personal experience how fragile life can be and it truly is a horrible pit of despair to reach the personal decision that you think to yourself the world would be a better place without you being in it. It sometimes doesn’t take much to tip you over the edge. I think I cope by compartmentalising but still get low at times with work stress, family and other things but somehow get through it. Wolves performances and result’s definitely affect my mood though.

Sometimes I just wish the world was a kinder place.

 

[dgm6769]

Watched this earlier on sky news, brilliantly done .
I lost 2 friends years ago and both were the life and soul of a party the last 2 guys you would ever think of having problems.
I've had to cut ligatures from more then one person's neck in my job, a few you can tell when they are lower then usual but others have sat there talking and joking with you, half hour later your struggling with them while cutting off charger cables wrapped around belts etc anything to make the job take longer and more difficult with a ligature cutter.
For someone like myself who's struggling at the moment with my own life it really does hurt to see.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Major respect to Norwich. That's a really clever ad - a hard hitting one with a simple message and a real sting in the tail.

Such a male thing. Admitting having issues is a sign of weakness...

You man up, you keep a stiff upper lip, you keep smiling... while inside....

 

[WickedWolfie]

Take a moment to watch this through to the end, it's a pretty powerful message.

https://x.com/NorwichCityFC/status/1711630140227064183?s=20

TY for sharing this.

 

[Bradstonian]

Powerful message and one that resonates.

I’m hesitant and not sure whether to share but I will (mainly because I’m pretty anonymous on this site) & it’s in the hope that if someone is feeling like I felt they might read this and realise there is a different option than committing suicide.

A number of years ago I reached such a low point in my life that I tried to end it all.

I planned it all meticulously (or so I thought) but was found at the last moment after taking an overdose.

No one I socialise with knows as far as I’m aware that I tried to take my life and my ex-wife I think was just embarrassed so didn’t publicise the fact and didn’t want to really address the issues that had caused my reaching this decision and maybe it was one of the factors that led to our divorce.

This was before I had my two wonderful boys and I am truly thankful that after my divorce I got custody of my two lads which helped provide me with a real focus and I realise if I had been successful I would have missed the wonders and joys (as well as the pitfalls) of being a single dad and bringing up my lads.

Sometimes I see on this site how some post towards others without seemingly considering the possible mental state the other poster is in at the time.

I know from personal experience how fragile life can be and it truly is a horrible pit of despair to reach the personal decision that you think to yourself the world would be a better place without you being in it. It sometimes doesn’t take much to tip you over the edge. I think I cope by compartmentalising but still get low at times with work stress, family and other things but somehow get through it. Wolves performances and result’s definitely affect my mood though.

Sometimes I just wish the world was a kinder place.

Thank you for taking the time, and having the courage to share your very personal experience with us. It does help give an insight into a situation that we’re probably all vulnerable “there but for the grace of…” to suffering. Good to know that you came through the dark clouds and have the ability to handle such black-dog moments. Good luck to you going forward!

 

[WickedWolfie]

Watched this earlier on sky news, brilliantly done .
I lost 2 friends years ago and both were the life and soul of a party the last 2 guys you would ever think of having problems.
I've had to cut ligatures from more then one person's neck in my job, a few you can tell when they are lower then usual but others have sat there talking and joking with you, half hour later your struggling with them while cutting off charger cables wrapped around belts etc anything to make the job take longer and more difficult with a ligature cutter.
For someone like myself who's struggling at the moment with my own life it really does hurt to see.

I hope that things are as well as they can be for you. Sadly all too often people only share with you what they want you to know or believe. The reality can be very very different.

 

[Netherton Wolf]

My friend took her life 30 years ago, my niece 3 , it never gets any easier, love to all of you, I really wish we had a hug emoji x

 

[dgm6769]

I hope that things are as well as they can be for you. Sadly all too often people only share with you what they want you to know or believe. The reality can be very very different.

That is so right, I want to scream and shout about losing my wife but for some reason you can't, it's easier just to say "I'm doing ok".
Myself it feels like part don't want to keep going over it, the pain it brings, knowing nothing they can say will make it all feel remotely better, they didn't know her like I did and that includes your own kids because you have the personal side.
But I'm lucky that I have close friends and workmates who "distract" me enough that the better days are getting more frequent added to that a job that let's me give back to people who make my pain feel like a pin *****.
But just being asked if im ok or told they are there if I need them, does help just on its own.

 

[Netherton Wolf]

Anyone that loses anyone special is never ever the same again, you just get on with life and carry on, grief overwhelms you at times, life's seems so unfair at times x

 

[A wanderer from Bristol]

Amazing video. Well done Norwich

A friend of mine took his life in March. I also work in mental health and have seen too many people succombe to the darkness. It's so important to keep talking about this and checking in with our friends.

Love to all Mixers out there who are struggling at the moment. Reach out if you can xx

 

[Flump]

That is so right, I want to scream and shout about losing my wife but for some reason you can't, it's easier just to say "I'm doing ok".

When I had a rough patch on several fronts all at once, I found the best way was to pre-prepare to force myself to say "yeah it's pretty rough at the moment actually" rather than the easy "I'm doing OK", as you said - you can still do it in a light hearted way, but even that's usually enough to get a proper conversation going, which isn't always the most natural thing among male friends.

Hope you're actually doing OK.

 

[Skrilla]

One of the best, and most powerful, uses of social media I've ever seen. Massive kudos to Norwich for that masterpiece. It's already garnered 23 million views and still growing exponentially.

 

[WickedWolfie]

That is so right, I want to scream and shout about losing my wife but for some reason you can't, it's easier just to say "I'm doing ok".
Myself it feels like part don't want to keep going over it, the pain it brings, knowing nothing they can say will make it all feel remotely better, they didn't know her like I did and that includes your own kids because you have the personal side.
But I'm lucky that I have close friends and workmates who "distract" me enough that the better days are getting more frequent added to that a job that let's me give back to people who make my pain feel like a pin *****.
But just being asked if im ok or told they are there if I need them, does help just on its own.

I don't know you but if there is ever anything that l can do..... I'm sure that many Mixers would say the same.

 

[OLDGOLD]

Powerful message and one that resonates.

I’m hesitant and not sure whether to share but I will (mainly because I’m pretty anonymous on this site) & it’s in the hope that if someone is feeling like I felt they might read this and realise there is a different option than committing suicide.

A number of years ago I reached such a low point in my life that I tried to end it all.

I planned it all meticulously (or so I thought) but was found at the last moment after taking an overdose.

No one I socialise with knows as far as I’m aware that I tried to take my life and my ex-wife I think was just embarrassed so didn’t publicise the fact and didn’t want to really address the issues that had caused my reaching this decision and maybe it was one of the factors that led to our divorce.

This was before I had my two wonderful boys and I am truly thankful that after my divorce I got custody of my two lads which helped provide me with a real focus and I realise if I had been successful I would have missed the wonders and joys (as well as the pitfalls) of being a single dad and bringing up my lads.

Sometimes I see on this site how some post towards others without seemingly considering the possible mental state the other poster is in at the time.

I know from personal experience how fragile life can be and it truly is a horrible pit of despair to reach the personal decision that you think to yourself the world would be a better place without you being in it. It sometimes doesn’t take much to tip you over the edge. I think I cope by compartmentalising but still get low at times with work stress, family and other things but somehow get through it. Wolves performances and result’s definitely affect my mood though.

Sometimes I just wish the world was a kinder place.

A while ago we had a thread on here where a lot of people shared mental health stories. Thanks for sharing yours. Quite a lot of us understand where you have been, and luckily we are still here. There but for the grace of God. Like an alcoholic, never cured, just not currently drinking. Good health to you.

 

[WickedWolfie]

A while ago we had a thread on here where a lot of people shared mental health stories. Thanks for sharing yours. Quite a lot of us understand where you have been, and luckily we are still here. There but for the grace of God. Like an alcoholic, never cured, just not currently drinking. Good health to you.

I think that is exactly what resonates about that video. Many (most?) of us can say "There but for the grace of God.....".

 

[The Wolf In The North]

I work at a local GP surgery, and partly through happenstance and partly through design, I'm heavily involved in the mental health aspect of the job. I'm good at it. I'm kind, I'm empathic, and I'm supportive. Sadly, the care industry still has a long way to go overall. It's much better than it was, but it's still perfunctory.

Especially so for men. Even in 2023, there's an instinctive awkwardness; whilst attitudes to women with mental health concerns can often be patronising, it's much worse with men, where sympathy and understanding can often be swamped by a "pull yourself together" or "man up" attitude, on a professional level as much as social, and so for the vast majority of men it's still uncomfortable verging on taboo.

A person's head is an echo chamber, where singular opinions and points of view rattle around, and for a lot of men it's impossible to talk about, so they contain it. There's no magic cure, for heartbreak or grief, or financial or familial anxiety, or for guilt or inadequacy or pain or loneliness. Talking and sharing makes things easier, but as a general rule women find that openness easier than men, and are more encouraged.

I struggle with it myself. My own mental health is appalling. No matter how well (or not) my life is going, no matter the positives, I remain honest and aware enough to know that, most days, I couldn't care less whether I live or die. And that personally I don't want to talk about it. It sounds cold, but it is how it is. Apathy and disenchantment is the silent, poisonous ingredient in depression. And that's perhaps why patients feel comfortable with me, can open up if and when they want to, can feel a little better afterwards, because I understand certain things and because I'm not trying to fix things that can't be fixed; I'm there to absorb, to dissipate the build up, or just to be a gentle, constant point of contact.

The advice I would give to anyone is to be honest with themselves, and with others, and if a friend asks "How are you?" then be brave enough to tell the truth if things aren't going well. Not everyone will react agreeably, but you only ever need one or two who genuinely care and who'll listen, just to feel that little bit less alone or lacking in something. A different voice in your head to your own. No one can fix the broken glass you might be treading, but sometimes having someone there with you makes it all hurt a little less.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

That video should be shown by Sky at HT during the next round of televised games. Very well done and kudos to Norwich.

 

[SilverstoneWolf]

A 6th form student at my school committed suicide age 17. She was extremely talented, academic and popular. The day she committed suicide she was really happy; the family were going on holiday the next day, and she did her packing with her younger sister and waved the family off to work in the morning. They came home to find her hanging from the landing.

Visiting and talking to her parents was so hard. They couldn't understand; she seemed SO happy.

I have since learned that this euphoric state can be a warning sign; the person who is prone to depression has finally decided they WILL end it all, and this decision in itself brings happiness to them. Not something I can personally contemplate or understand, but I understand the logic.

It just goes to show that mental health is so hugely unpredictable and complex. All we can do is - as the video says - talk to each other, support each other, and CUT OUT THE NASTY COMMENTS so often posted on social media sites - INCLUDING this one.

We can - and should - all do better.

 

[topcat99]

I know personally of two people (under 40) that have taken their own lives.

One was only 2 weeks ago, and he was 28 and seemed ok.

It’s quite common in rural communities like ours.
Both guys were single and agricultural workers

 

[Mutchy]

Going to piggyback another male health concern on here too.
Get checked and be safe rather than sorry.

Steve Rider: Sports presenter to have surgery after prostate cancer diagnosis

The sports presenter will have surgery on Saturday and encourages other men to get checked early.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[S G Wolves]

Reading through the posts they are very touching and shows how real the issues are.

I'm very lucky in that I have never gone through anything like this but can see how a loss of a dear one especially can really knock someone back. My parents are coming to an age, and I have kind of braced myself for the inevitable,

But one thing that has helped me a lot and brought a lot of success into my life is gratitude. I know it's a bit cliche but it really works. Gratitude for the silly things that we all take for granted, like hot water in the morning when having a shower, clean water. Relative peace in our lives, even stuff like NHS and roads.. being able to travel anywhere freely in the UK..

So basic but it is a massive help and brings huge rewards..

Also being present and not worrying about things you can't control that 99% never happens anyway..

 

[thommo1984]

But one thing that has helped me a lot and brought a lot of success into my life is gratitude. I know it's a bit cliche but it really works. Gratitude for the silly things that we all take for granted, like hot water in the morning when having a shower, clean water. Relative peace in our lives, even stuff like NHS and roads.. being able to travel anywhere freely in the UK..

So basic but it is a massive help and brings huge rewards..

Also being present and not worrying about things you can't control that 99% never happens anyway..

Not how the brain works, sadly.

 

[Mutchy]

Safe to say my life is a challenge.
In her last letter to my GP, my Neurologist put him on alert to be ready to help with my mental health if I needed it. So far its not support I've had to ask for, though the image of a swan paddling furiously under the surface of the water comes to mind!
Anyway, a few years ago I began using diaries/planners. I have a daily to-do list... a lot of the things on it are very minor, though possibly still a struggle, but in ticking them off it helps me to see that I have achieved something on a daily basis. It also provides an incentive to keep going.
I also have a 5 year diary. In that I note the weather, and the music I've listened to, but the main input is for 'positives' from each day. It makes me look for the good every day - sometimes big things, more often small ones - but I make sure to acknowledge they are there.

 

[Wolvescol]

I watched the Tyson fury interview with Rio Ferdinand , Tyson spoke of how low he became and just wanted out of life completely, he said I’d achieved everything, my family are set for life , money no object and I’ve won everything there is to win , all dreams and winning everything is done , nothing left to live for so why live he said , I think he got the help he needed and hopefully all others in any depressed situation will do the same but unfortunately we know that’s not always going to happen, my heart goes out to anyone involved in this awful illness, please ask for help and find a reason to live a happy life

 

[Fifty Niner]

Take a moment to watch this through to the end, it's a pretty powerful message.

https://x.com/NorwichCityFC/status/1711630140227064183?s=20

Wow. Thank you. Excellent bit of filming.

 

[glorybox]

Despite reading some of the comments above i didn't see that coming. A powerful message for all of us.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Going to piggyback another male health concern on here too.
Get checked and be safe rather than sorry.

Steve Rider: Sports presenter to have surgery after prostate cancer diagnosis

The sports presenter will have surgery on Saturday and encourages other men to get checked early.

www.bbc.co.uk

I watched it this morning., his bravery in the face of adversity is amazing. Hopefully his speaking about Prostate cancer will help others in a similar condition.

Also, well done to Norwich city. As others said, this should be shown at half time of live games.

 

[S G Wolves]

Not how the brain works, sadly.

Honestly it does, try it., because it is simple people knock it. Similar to mindfulness. If you are aware of your thoughts life can be so much easier.

However we are all different and things work for us in differing ways probably.

 

[OLDGOLD]

Reading through the posts they are very touching and shows how real the issues are.

I'm very lucky in that I have never gone through anything like this but can see how a loss of a dear one especially can really knock someone back. My parents are coming to an age, and I have kind of braced myself for the inevitable,

But one thing that has helped me a lot and brought a lot of success into my life is gratitude. I know it's a bit cliche but it really works. Gratitude for the silly things that we all take for granted, like hot water in the morning when having a shower, clean water. Relative peace in our lives, even stuff like NHS and roads.. being able to travel anywhere freely in the UK..

So basic but it is a massive help and brings huge rewards..

Also being present and not worrying about things you can't control that 99% never happens anyway..

Positive thinking is great, but speaking for myself, at my worst my brain won't let me do it, because it doesn't believe it. In fact one of the ways in the past I know I have been feeling better is not being able to do certain things, but at least being able to consider at some time I might....