Fabio Silva - value for money???

[wolvesjoe]

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This is us in the dying stages of the game. 6 men in our own half in case the speed demon that is Teemu Pukki has a breakaway.

Chiquinho and Silva on the shoulder ready to pounce, Raul offering the short option. Podence hovering free in the space as Silva is taking up their left back and their LM isn't tracking him

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Raul receives the ball and turns into space, Chiquinho runs wide dragging their RCB over, and Silva starts a diagonal run to do the same to their LB and LCB.

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Look at all the space he gave Podence to run in to, and Pod/Raul didn't read it.

He does this constantly.

Rewatch Moutinho's goal Vs Brentford. When Moutinho receives the ball, Silva comes short, drags the CB about and opens up the shooting lane which Moutinho uses for the goal.

Very good analysis.

I just rewatched the highlights from Saturday. Fabio's movement in the second half was excellent, a constant threat. I agree with the point that he needs to be part of a front 3, otherwise he can get marked out of the game. Although this is just as true for our other strikers to be honest.

Given his age, his ability is very apparent.

I think he is close to a breakthrough at Wolves so long as he doesnt lose confidence.

 

[Bacon Sandwich]

I am by no means Fabio's biggest fan, but as we're all Wolves fans, this may well add some weight to the 'Fabio will be worth it' argument:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487774986618212356

 

[wolvesjoe]

He’s not strong enough for a striker attacking midfield maybe

I am by no means Fabio's biggest fan, but as we're all Wolves fans, this may well add some weight to the 'Fabio will be worth it' argument:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487774986618212356

That does confirm what we can see, I would argue. Exceptional movement, and getting better all the time at receiving the ball under pressure. It just needs work, especially with Raul, so that they can both be on the pitch at the same time without getting in each others way.

 

[Contrarian]

I am by no means Fabio's biggest fan, but as we're all Wolves fans, this may well add some weight to the 'Fabio will be worth it' argument:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487774986618212356

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Willian Jose
Olly McBurnie

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

That does confirm what we can see, I would argue. Exceptional movement, and getting better all the time at receiving the ball under pressure. It just needs work, especially with Raul, so that they can both be on the pitch at the same time without getting in each others way.

Both drop too deep which is why Lage wants a target man

 

[RMNottm]

Be interesting if Trincao is back tomorrow. Silva likely to be on bench but play as second half sub or visa versa.

Our forwards always have hunt for the ball as we have little midfield central penetration.

 

[Adrian_Monk]

He was really poor in the first half, and I think there's a ruthlessness missing from his personality at the moment for him to genuinely have any kind of impact on our performances. He's just kinda playing along at the moment and that only gets you so far - there was a point during the first half when Podence put a rocket up him, and he started chasing players down and looking more purposeful, and whilst Podence shouldn't need to do that, Fabio is our investment, so we try to make it work. If he needs someone on his back during games to make sure he's doing the basics then so be it - someone needs to take responsibility.

In fairness his supply chain - Podence - didn't come out of Saturday with much credit in my eyes either as he was well off color, but Fabio wasn't really giving him many options, until the second half when to be fair he did look more threatening. Until then, he wasn't curving his runs at all, and was consequently so predictable to play against.

Most of the goals I've seen him score at youth level he's just used a little decent footwork and then a very good finish. In the premier league, he just isn't even getting the opportunity to have a shot.

He's not blessed with great pace or great strength, and in the premier league you need a little of both if you want to fashion your own chances (look at Neto and how he matured) otherwise you're another Bamford. He doesn't even have the instinct or wherewithal that Bamford has picked up from years of failure.

When you're not chasing down lost causes, not curving your runs and second guessing situations, and can't fashion chances for yourself.....well, you're a passenger.

He wasn't the only player to have a bad day at the office, and I hate to pick on one player especially as the fee wasn't his fault. But he has invariably more bad days than good, more bad moments than good. Whether or not he makes it I have no idea, but we are a poorer team with him starting.

 

[Adrian_Monk]

And that's the problem, the results mask the issue.
Look at the types of goals scored:

Past 5 games:
Vs Brentford:
2x long range strikes

Vs Southampton:
Penalty
Set piece
Solo effort

Vs United:
Long range

Vs Chelsea
Nil

Vs Brighton:
Set piece

Relying on long range strikes isn't sustainable.
Going games on end without shooting in the box isnt sustainable.

Results have masked the issue.

Conversely, if your best finishers are your central midfielders, play a system that allows you to attack as team and get them into advanced, shooting positions.

Have results masked the issue, or has Bruno worked out the issue and found a temporary fix? The evidence seems to suggest it's a bit of both.

 

[Shergar]

Only got 10+5 minutes tonight but he certainly is no game changer, looks lost.

 

[Cousins78]

Should have shot, lad is just not good enough im afraid

 

[jonesy]

Only got 10+5 minutes tonight but he certainly is no game changer, looks lost.

If fosun pulled the plug because of one deal it was for him!! Sorry to Slag any footballer but Fabio and donk are outrageously poor.

 

[Tring Wolf]

Thought he did ok when he came on.

Undoubtedly should have put his foot through it when he had the chance though.

 

[Ned]

I’m starting to think he needs to start ahead of Raul or, at least, up there in a 352 with him.

 

[Chris H]

If we’re questioning the future of our £30m+ striker I think this may be the wrong thread…

I love Jimenez, I’m so glad to see him back fit and healthy, but there is a Wolves striker who’s form I’m concerned about and it isn’t Silva.

 

[Guzeppi]

I’m starting to think he needs to start ahead of Raul or, at least, up there in a 352 with him.

I'm starting to think that they should both be benched. Pity there's noone else.
Oh , btw, we should have kept Mir.

 

[Timberwolf]

He should of cracked it when he had the chance but **** me, you lads are being unfair. We were **** before he came on, we were less **** when he did. We could have played for another 12 hours and we wouldn’t have scored.

 

[Bacon Sandwich]

I’m starting to think he needs to start ahead of Raul or, at least, up there in a 352 with him.

I'm starting to think - no, I've thought it for a long time - that he's **** and wouldn't be a guaranteed starter in the Championship

 

[HKWolf]

It’s not Silva’s fault we couldn’t score in a brothel, it’s those running the club that are to blame for having neglected the team, and being unable to see the obvious in January.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

And that's the problem, the results mask the issue.
Look at the types of goals scored:

Past 5 games:
Vs Brentford:
2x long range strikes

Vs Southampton:
Penalty
Set piece
Solo effort

Vs United:
Long range

Vs Chelsea
Nil

Vs Brighton:
Set piece

Relying on long range strikes isn't sustainable.
Going games on end without shooting in the box isnt sustainable.

Results have masked the issue.

These last two games have been painfully predictable.

 

[Shergar]

He should of cracked it when he had the chance but **** me, you lads are being unfair. We were **** before he came on, we were less **** when he did. We could have played for another 12 hours and we wouldn’t have scored.

So, he is supposed to come on and make a difference, regardless if we were **** before or not. His legs are as weak as a kitten when either running or shooting, he has no power in them.

 

[Matt]

Had to shoot there.

 

[Guzeppi]

Lidl toilet paper is value for money
Silva ain"t.

 

[Timberwolf]

So, he is supposed to come on and make a difference, regardless if we were **** before or not. His legs are as weak as a kitten when either running or shooting, he has no power in them.

Lol! Defenders come on to be more defensive and attackers come on to be more attacking. We were more attacking when he came on. Goals aren’t a given you know…

 

[Bugsy911]

Not good enough never will be.

Should have broken the back of the net with the chance he had.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Thought he did ok when he came on.

Undoubtedly should have put his foot through it when he had the chance though.

Angle was massively against him and Arsenal had a defender across goal

 

[YamYamWolf]

Makes an effort, puts himself about and shows decent touches. More than can be said about our other striker.

 

[I'm the Wanderer]

Makes an effort, puts himself about and shows decent touches. More than can be said about our other striker.

What would have done in 90 minutes besides lose the ball and fall down 29 times?

 

[YamYamWolf]

What would have done in 90 minutes besides lose the ball and fall down 29 times?

What's Raul done in the last 10 games sorry? More yellow cards than goals. Doesnt even look likely to score.

 

[I'm the Wanderer]

What's Raul done in the last 10 games sorry? More yellow cards than goals. Doesnt even look likely to score.

They both suck ass but one has a legit excuse

 

[YamYamWolf]

They both suck ass but one has a legit excuse

Give me a break. What's the excuse?

 

[Bostin]

Would like to see them both up top together. Was it 30 odd crosses we put into the box tonight?

How about we have someone in there to get on the end of them.

 

[JOSWolf]

Just looks like he wont score. A bit like most of our other attacking players to be fair. Little or no conviction at present.

 

[JOSWolf]

If we’re questioning the future of our £30m+ striker I think this may be the wrong thread…

I love Jimenez, I’m so glad to see him back fit and healthy, but there is a Wolves striker who’s form I’m concerned about and it isn’t Silva.

To be honest I am concerned with the form of Raul, Trincao and Silva. Where are the goals? No existent at present.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

A quality striker has two distinct attributes. The ability to find space in the box. The ability to hit the target 9 times out of 10.

Unfortunately Fabio has neither. Have seen enough now to make that judgement. If we hadn’t paid £35m the lad would be on loan at Cheltenham.

And I’m a glass half full type of person.

 

[JOSWolf]

What's Raul done in the last 10 games sorry? More yellow cards than goals. Doesnt even look likely to score.

Sadly I agree. He doesnt look on it at all.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Raul and Silva just look lost. Maybe we need to get Bully on the training pitch with them. Get their confidence up.

Both drop too deep. Raul’s form is worrying Iv said it all along he needs to be replaced. Silva still learning but I get frustrated with his efforts needs to be more selfish and shoot more.

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Much as the money spent on Silva was a nonsense it is hard to be too critical when our attacking play is completely hopeless.

 

[Purple Ronnie]

I assume we paid £35m in the hope that value would double to £70m. He isn’t worth more than £3m. Worst value for money signing ever

 

[Ian]

I’m starting to think he needs to start ahead of Raul or, at least, up there in a 352 with him.

What has Fabio shown you that makes you think he should start ahead of Jimenez?
Raul has been poor ( form, attitude, body language) and as others have said I dont think he or Silva have done enough to be starting...
Hwang is back and id give him a start next game but then he is more of a wide attacker..... surely we must have someone that is consistently putting the goals in the back of the net on our books???

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

Got to shoot yday at the end