Could Leicester blow it? Aka the Championship run in

[WickedWolfie]

True that. I worked with a Leicester fan who said that who the Fox's local rivals were depended very much on where you lived. In Leicester itself, it was Derby/Notts but if you were closer to Warwickshire, perhaps in Nuneaton for example, then often Cov were hated the most.

As for Albion, we gifted them promotion 20 years ago, you think the buggers would be grateful!

Your first para sounds about right... See some Wolves fans views about Stoke....

 

[Rowzed]

Lost 3 on the spin now
Wobble wobble

 

[WickedWolfie]

Interesting.....

Leicester City Premier League points deduction fear emerges amid FFP worry

Leicester City news as reports suggest the Foxes are suspected to have breached FFP rules at the end of last season

www.leicestermercury.co.uk

 

[wolvesaywe]

Interesting.....

Leicester City Premier League points deduction fear emerges amid FFP worry

Leicester City news as reports suggest the Foxes are suspected to have breached FFP rules at the end of last season

www.leicestermercury.co.uk

I'm old enough to remember when football was about points you won on the pitch not those you lost on an accountant's spreadsheet

 

[Ginger Chimp]

I'm old enough to remember when football was about points you won on the pitch not those you lost on an accountant's spreadsheet

Dinosaur.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

I'm old enough to remember when football was about points you won on the pitch not those you lost on an accountant's spreadsheet

Agreed 100%.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I'm old enough to remember when football was about points you won on the pitch not those you lost on an accountant's spreadsheet

Ironically Leicester going bust was one of the factors that prompted FFP.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I'm old enough to remember when football was about points you won on the pitch not those you lost on an accountant's spreadsheet

I agree with that to a point. However I don’t think there’s much wrong with trying to stop clubs from putting themselves in financial peril.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Free transfers are rarely "free". If the players are in demand they want a signing on fee and/or higher wages, a longer contract etc. See Doc's three year deal for example....

No but the signing on fee is rarely as much as a transfer fee...

£18m for Cutrone
£10m for Hoever
£30m for Guedes

The list is much longer, even some of our better players were bought for inflated fees.

You can't tell me there's no value with free agents, even when they don't work out any fee received should go some way to mitigating the initial outlay.

 

[WickedWolfie]

No but the signing on fee is rarely as much as a transfer fee...

£18m for Cutrone
£10m for Hoever
£30m for Guedes

The list is much longer, even some of our better players were bought for inflated fees.

You can't tell me there's no value with free agents, even when they don't work out any fee received should go some way to mitigating the initial outlay.

I certainly wouldn't rule out judicious use of the option.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

No but the signing on fee is rarely as much as a transfer fee...

£18m for Cutrone
£10m for Hoever
£30m for Guedes

The list is much longer, even some of our better players were bought for inflated fees.

You can't tell me there's no value with free agents, even when they don't work out any fee received should go some way to mitigating the initial outlay.

I think it’s something to explore more for sure the only issues in my mind is the really good players who would improve us would be after astronomical wages due to being on a free and then (granted this is left field) but I’m struggling to think of any real success stories of free signings. On the whole they tend to just drift out of the game like their hunger has gone.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

Sunderland & Hull away next and they've just lost 3 on the bounce.

It’s a pretty significant slump, in 17/18, we never lost back to back league games, and our longest winless run only lasted 3 games (2 drawn).

 

[Rowzed]

It’s a pretty significant slump, in 17/18, we never lost back to back league games, and our longest winless run only lasted 3 games (2 drawn).

Coady starting, perhaps this is when they turn a corner

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Crazy really, could be heading for 100 points, and still looks like any two from 3. What's the record for most points without automatic promotion?

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

I think it’s something to explore more for sure the only issues in my mind is the really good players who would improve us would be after astronomical wages due to being on a free and then (granted this is left field) but I’m struggling to think of any real success stories of free signings. On the whole they tend to just drift out of the game like their hunger has gone.

Sol Campbell was a total flop obviously, Zlatan too.

I know they're extreme examples so how about Gary McAllister, James Milner (twice) and Jay Jay Okocha?

 

[Monketron]

Crazy really, could be heading for 100 points, and still looks like any two from 3. What's the record for most points without automatic promotion?

From what I can find it was Sunderland in the 97/98 season with 90 points, 1.96 points per game (ppg) - they lost in the play-offs too. No team has ever averaged over 2.0 ppg over a season and not got automatic promotion. Currently all of the top 4 in the Championship are averaging 2.0 ppg or more.

Brighton also missed out on automatic promotion on goal difference in 15/16 with a tally of 89 points - they also lost in the play-offs.

Looks like both the PL and Champ are heading for an entertaining end of season.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Sol Campbell was a total flop obviously, Zlatan too.

I know they're extreme examples so how about Gary McAllister, James Milner (twice) and Jay Jay Okocha?

Trouble is barring Milner the rest have been well over a decade ago. Not saying you’re wrong just the success rate of free transfers is very low.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

Crazy really, could be heading for 100 points, and still looks like any two from 3. What's the record for most points without automatic promotion?

Not the championship but Sheff Wed finished third in League One last year with 96 points, I think I remember reading it was a record.

 

[xbomber]

Or be put towards a number signing on fee for a free transfer...

I know it's not real but when playing FIFA or Football Manager I'd always look at what free transfers were available before dropping multi millions in strengthening the squad...

It's an avenue that's barely been explored in the Fosun era, which is stupid in my opinion.

Yeah baby

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Leicester heading towards FFP failure…

Leicester 'concern' at EFL action in finances probe

Leicester are "concerned" the EFL "acted outside its powers" in dealings with the club over a forecast breach of profitability and sustainability rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

Leicester at risk of breaching EFL profit and sustainability regulations

Leicester City are at risk of breaking the EFL’s profit and sustainability regulations, raising concerns about a possible points deduction

www.theguardian.com

 

[LosgallardosWolf]

Just read on the BBC sports page they could be docked points next season for financial irregularities

 

[Saltyjim]

I think it’s something to explore more for sure the only issues in my mind is the really good players who would improve us would be after astronomical wages due to being on a free and then (granted this is left field) but I’m struggling to think of any real success stories of free signings. On the whole they tend to just drift out of the game like their hunger has gone.

John Ruddy and Ryan Bennett were free transfers I think? Both good signings

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Just read on the BBC sports page they could be docked points next season for financial irregularities

Docked points by who? The Premier League or the Football League?

 

[henri_camara]

Docked points by who? The Premier League or the Football League?

Premier

 

[WickedWolfie]

Docked points by who? The Premier League or the Football League?

The PL are doing them for last season. They are in trouble with the EFL for this season too....

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

John Ruddy and Ryan Bennett were free transfers I think? Both good signings

They were, however I would add it’s easier to attract championship players in the championship than where we are now. We were a big fish in a small pond. Now if we look at a free transfer that genuinely improves us they’ll have more attractive offers from bigger clubs than us.

 

[topcat99]

Crazy really, could be heading for 100 points, and still looks like any two from 3. What's the record for most points without automatic promotion?

Sunderland got 90 and lost in playoffs.

Portsmouth got to 88 in mid 90s and also lost in playoff semi final

 

[Lobo de Ouro]

Sol Campbell was a total flop obviously, Zlatan too.

I know they're extreme examples so how about Gary McAllister, James Milner (twice) and Jay Jay Okocha?

Zlatan a total flop? Where? When?

If you mean Utd, he scored over a goal every 2 games in a shambles of a team.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Zlatan a total flop? Where? When?

If you mean Utd, he scored over a goal every 2 games in a shambles of a team.

Methinks that you missed the sarcasm....

 

[silverwolf]

Zlatan a total flop? Where? When?

If you mean Utd, he scored over a goal every 2 games in a shambles of a team.

I believe this was said sarcastically rather than literally.

 

[Lobo de Ouro]

Methinks that you missed the sarcasm....

I believe this was said sarcastically rather than literally.

Ah..... faith in Bill's sanity restored.

The perils of not reading an entire thread and replying to something out of context.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Ah..... faith in Bill's sanity restored.

The perils of not reading an entire thread and replying to something out of context.

Been there, done that, had the red face....

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Zlatan a total flop? Where? When?

If you mean Utd, he scored over a goal every 2 games in a shambles of a team.

I'll use an emoji next time to clarify my sarcasm.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

John Ruddy and Ryan Bennett were free transfers I think? Both good signings

Both excellent signings for where we were.