Brentford verdict

[TelfordWolf]

Brentford fans must grow immunity to noticing it when you have to watch it every week.

 

[TelfordWolf]

Instead of who?

Dawson for me. We really need a run of games to see how good Santi is.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

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Brentford fans must grow immunity to noticing it when you have to watch it every week.

Can’t stand them. We will be the ones laughing with FA Cup glory

 

[bod101]

Poor application by the players, poor tactics by the manager.

Why we kept persisting playing it wide to cross to no one, or to one player hopelessly outgunned in the air.

Movement non existent, tempo in geological time. More predictable than me asking to play 4 at the back.

Where we actually need to upgrade for me is the centre backs and an actual striker who plays in the middle and more importantly is allowed to.

 

[Dorbelflunk]

Also noticed that he didn't celebrate with the team after each of their goals. Went straight back to his half. Fair play!

Also chatting to our players and being generally friendly enough at half time. Don't think he's burned any bridges, seems a good lad. Just wish he'd lost today.

 

[bod101]

The thing with Bellegarde is… he’s a central midfielder. We bought him to replace Nunes in that hybrid centre mid/left side role and then we changed systems and play him as a winger or false 9.

Absolutely this, he looked good as the centre mid who could drive forward.

We could've done that today, but we didn't. If we have to play 3 at back and wing backs, they provide the width. Then we might actually have people in the area.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

We have had a great season but we will beat Brentford and then lose to them as we are bobbing about mid table .

Either invest and improve the team to move us forward or expect the same again next season.

Not rocket science but how we have not signed a striker is past laughable imo.

 

[Henry Palfrey]

Thing with Sa is that he's a really good shot stopper but often after he's given the ball away. His distribution, either long kicks or short have always been terrible. Move on in the Summer.

He didn’t stop any shots today

 

[Ches78]

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Brentford fans must grow immunity to noticing it when you have to watch it every week.

I didn't think they were too bad, and I imagine we'd do the same or similar if a goal or 2 up at their place. I found the whole "boring boring" chanting a bit cringy, especially when we're losing, they've scored 2 goals, should have scored at least 1 or 2 more in the first half, and we didnt look like scoring if we played them until Monday, with an extra player and they had no goalie. OK might have gone a bit OTT at the end there.

 

[Incognito]

Wolves 0 Craig Dawson 2! Architects of our own downfall. Slow start again! Oh well! Hopefully Cunha is OK.

 

[Tring Wolf]

He didn’t stop any shots today

He made three good saves from Maupay…

…unfortunately, they all came from him giving the ball away playing out from the back…

 

[Chisels_n_ommers]

Wolves 0 Craig Dawson 2! Architects of our own downfall. Slow start again! Oh well! Hopefully Cunha is OK.

Dawson doesn't leave headers like that.

He must have got a call from Sa (who made a phantom dive as the ball was stinging the back of the net from that pesky Brentford player who snuck in)

 

[S G Wolves]

We were poor, however it was still a game of small margins. Cunha going off disrupted our system and game plan.

If the goal stands its game on. We don't have to be so gung ho and everything is more controlled.

Bad day and we move on.

 

[wolvesjoe]

He didn’t stop any shots today

Two excellent saves to keep us init in a very poor first 20 mins???????

 

[Andywolf74]

Bad day at the office. To be more consistent we need a forward, two defenders at least and a more consistent goalkeeper than Sa.
In the context of the season, 32 points at this stage is very good, all things considered.

 

[Wolf of Wall Heath]

I never tire of watching Sa casually stroke the ball out to no man’s land despite Dawson creating an angle for the out ball. Immediately putting the midfield under the cosh. **** right off.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Bad day at the office. To be more consistent we need a forward, two defenders at least and a more consistent goalkeeper than Sa.
In the context of the season, 32 points at this stage is very good, all things considered.

Consider some of the teams around us lost. It’s not all bad. All is not lost. Pick ourselves up. We could beat spurs. Unlikely but why not. Will be a very difficult and different game to how Brentford play.

32 points for us at this stage is beyond our expectations. So how do we look at it. We can only try and be better next week. Every team has these sour moments.

Like you say if we can upgrade on Sa in the summer we will win a lot more points

 

[WickedWolfie]

Consider some of the teams around us lost. It’s not all bad. All is not lost. Pick ourselves up. We could beat spurs. Unlikely but why not. Will be a very difficult and different game to how Brentford play.

32 points for us at this stage is beyond our expectations. So how do we look at it. We can only try and be better next week. Every team has these sour moments.

Like you say if we can upgrade on Sa in the summer we will win a lot more points

The problem is that l don't see us spending the sort of money necessary to seriously upgrade Sa.

 

[Wolf316]

Bad day at the office and we’ll bounce back. Does make the decision to let Sasa go on loan even more stupid though.

 

[Tettenhall wulf]

Definitely need another forward in the Summer, but the need for at least one centre back is equally as important.

 

[JOSWolf]

Always assumed this was going to be a big problem as we go deeper into the season. Very worrying that’s it’s shown itself just a week after the window closed.

It is so predictable as well.

 

[WolfLing]

Cunha might just be as important to our team as Toney is to theirs.

 

[Big Saft Kid]

If Dawson's toenail hadn't been offside (he scored with this head though) we win that game. I hate VAR.

In fact i hate most of modern football and the clueless refs like Hooper.And above all else I hate cheating, diving, time-wasting, ****-housing Brentford and their Mickey Mouse manager. I sincerely hope they go down.

Otherwise meh. We looked knackered from the off. Hope Cunha is ok.

 

[Perton Wolf]

I'd sell Sa in the Summer if the Saudi interest is still there and get someone in who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet.

 

[Jd132]

As I watched this unfold, I thought "I have seen this before". When he took Toti off for Fraser, we lost our structure and everyone started getting in each others' way, with no clarity on who was playing where. By the end it was clear we had repeated the same mistakes as two years ago when Lage took off Saiss, Marcal and Semedo for Podence, Fabio and Hwang.



Sometimes I wish there was more corporate memory in our backroom staff because the fans have already learnt this lesson. Ending the game with our only recognised RWB playing LWB and Kilman at RB showed the Lage-esque muddled thinking today.

Key to Gary's success so far has been consistency. Today he tinkered too much- hopefully he will have learned a lesson.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

I'd sell Sa in the Summer if the Saudi interest is still there and get someone in who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Who would you bring in just out of interest. Not saying Sa is amazing but for me I would prefer a striker to be signed ahead of a goal keeper.

 

[Fenrir_]

I agree Sa had one of his brain fart games, but Dawson was punished for one mistake. The problem throughout was the lack of a central threat once Cunha went off. There were plenty of decent balls into the box that Bellegarde of all people was expected to get on the end of. Mainly though, we had to slow the play down, go backwards, let their low block settle, because there was no one between the sticks. Brentford on the other hand have one chance in the second half, and it's Toney of course putting himself in the right position to score. Sobering stuff today, because we otherwise didn't play badly.

Dawson was at fault for both goals. Awful marking for the first, crap pass for the second

Overall no, we didn't play badly (going forward and controlling the game at least), but we repeatedly shot ourselves in the foot and could have conceded many more than the two we did

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Who would you bring in just out of interest. Not saying Sa is amazing but for me I would prefer a striker to be signed ahead of a goal keeper.

We will go for striker and a keeper

Not sure who we could get too much choice

 

[berwickwolf]

Horrible side, Brentford, anti football, diving, etc etc.
Anyway, typical Wolves, from the fantastic game last Sunday to this.
Most points already raised, but imo Doyle is class, has great vision and can pass the ball with real intelligence. I love Gomes too, and Lemina.
How can we play these 3 together? Need a better football brain than mine, but if we could, I think that's a top class midfield.
I hope Cunha isn't out for long.
We will beat Spurs.

 

[KnowNuttin]

If ever a club beat themselves it was us today. Atmosphere flat as a witches tit from the off. Team unable to get going. Semedo after some good play neededlessy giving away a corner which was then defended terribly (that's 3 games in a row we've conceded from a corner). Totally deflated by a tight but correct VAR call. And a comedy 2nd goal originating from a straight ball out from Sa to a player running towards him which had already directly coughed up 2 or 3 very presentable chances to the opposition. Neto overplaying every time. JRB never getting into it. Sarabia summed it up with his bizzare foul throw.

Easily one of our worst performances of the season and a reminder of why we are still short of seriously challenging for a European spot. The thing is with this team, they can lose to anyone and beat anyone, it's infuriatingly inconsistent. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we turn Spurs over next week.

 

[SuperGran]

If ever a club beat themselves it was us today. Atmosphere flat as a witches tit from the off. Team unable to get going. Semedo after some good play neededlessy giving away a corner which was then defended terribly (that's 3 games in a row we've conceded from a corner). Totally deflated by a tight but correct VAR call. And a comedy 2nd goal originating from a straight ball out from Sa to a player running towards him which had already directly coughed up 2 or 3 very presentable chances to the opposition. Neto overplaying every time. JRB never getting into it. Sarabia summed it up with his bizzare foul throw.

Easily one of our worst performances of the season and a reminder of why we are still short of seriously challenging for a European spot. The thing is with this team, they can lose to anyone and beat anyone, it's infuriatingly inconsistent. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we turn Spurs over next week.

Atmosphere was awful today from the start

 

[JadeWolf]

Is Lemina now banned, 10 bookings?

 

[WickedWolfie]

Atmosphere was awful today from the start

Everything about today felt off. Not sure why.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Is Lemina now banned, 10 bookings?

Only on 8 on the PL site, maybe 9 now, but hopefully not 10, looked very harsh today.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

So my take is.

Two awful mistakes from Dawson got punished, but that shouldn't mask the overall poor performance.

I know most went with the 'don't change a winning team' cliché, but that's twice we've made that mistake. Man U at home wasn't Albion away and Brentford at home isn't Chelsea away. Moan at Sa if you like, he's poor with the ball at his feet, but they played a good high press, and most teams would go long, but we simply don't have that option. Neto as a central player doesn't work, yes he pulled wide last week and ran at Chilwell, but that was a great one off tactic, not a way to play. When Cunha went off we got Bellegarde there, but he also offers little in that position.

So credit O'Neil on actually changing it at half time (when we were lucky to be just one behind). The 4231 looked better and we had a decent go, but the disallowed goal and their second just seemed to be a comeback too far for us. Why he didn't switch Neto and Bellegarde I don't know, can only think I'm missing something, because Neto looked most dangerous on the left before half time today for me.

Hardly anyone comes out with much credit today. Awful game, awful performance, awful ref. Credit their small following for making a good noise for their numbers from the quadrant.

 

[John Wolves Fan]

Thought we deserved at least a point today.

Just one of them games but the run we’ve been on has been fantastic

 

[DJLWolf]

What a horrible team Brentford are.

Imagine having to watch that rubbish every week.

 

[Fenrir_]

Only on 8 on the PL site, maybe 9 now, but hopefully not 10, looked very harsh today.

It was very harsh, won the ball, didn't clatter into the player at all just a 'normal' kind of coming together after a slide tackle, don't even think it was a foul

 

[JadeWolf]

What a horrible team Brentford are.

Imagine having to watch that rubbish every week.

Feels like we have lately! Any chance of a points dejection and they can go down?

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Poor application by the players, poor tactics by the manager.

Why we kept persisting playing it wide to cross to no one, or to one player hopelessly outgunned in the air.

Movement non existent, tempo in geological time. More predictable than me asking to play 4 at the back.

Where we actually need to upgrade for me is the centre backs and an actual striker who plays in the middle and more importantly is allowed to.

I’m not sure we were persisting in playing it wide. I think Brentford let us, even encouraged us to play wide because they were content we had no threat from crosses…