manchesterwolf17
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If only this could happen, time for Wolves fans to unite
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If only this could happen, time for Wolves fans to unite
Not just Wolves fans - supporters of ALL clubs, 'cos, lets face it practically every club has suffered from VAR at some point.If only this could happen, time for Wolves fans to unite
Not just Wolves fans - supporters of ALL clubs, 'cos, lets face it practically every club has suffered from VAR at some point.
Not just Wolves fans - supporters of ALL clubs, 'cos, lets face it practically every club has suffered from VAR at some point.
True, but if we seriously want VAR out of the game its no use football supporters being tribal about how much/little they've been impacted by it.When one club suffers, the other celebrates. When added up, some supporters have had much more celebration than suffering. It took 3 seasons before Liverpool had a terrible VAR decision to complain about, when most others had several in the first season.
When one club suffers, the other celebrates. When added up, some supporters have had much more celebration than suffering. It took 3 seasons before Liverpool had a terrible VAR decision to complain about, when most others had several in the first season.
Have Man City?Not just Wolves fans - supporters of ALL clubs, 'cos, lets face it practically every club has suffered from VAR at some point.
I think this is the classic misunderstanding of the non-match going fan.Yesterday wasn’t VAR, it was a bad decision by a person.
It shouldn’t have been checked thoroughly because Fabianski’s view wasn’t impeded and his ability to save it wasn’t impacted by Chirewa.
It’s a mistake from an individual. Again. Against us. Again.
This was actually a rare incident in that the VAR official did make the mistake. So I understand the anger towards it even if I think it’s misdirected.
Usually the on-field decision does us over.
I think this is the classic misunderstanding of the non-match going fan.
VAR doesn’t ruin the game if you enjoy football watching highlights on your phone or reading posts on a message board.
It ruins it for those of us who live for the spontaneous emotion of seeing live, unpredictable and (hopefully) unscripted moments of live sport.
An example (albeit an old one)Have Man City?
I didn’t celebrate that goalI’ve genuinely never celebrated a VAR decision going in our favour. It feels so hollow. I remember the Forest penalty at home last season almost being annoyed it was given. You’re right though, the majority still do cheer it and fail to realise the damage they’re encouraging and justifying by doing so
Yo even that out look at the decision that went their way at Everton last season. If we got some the other way I doubt Wolves fans would feel like thisAn example (albeit an old one)
Why Phil Foden was denied penalty in Alex McCarthy incident
Foden denied spot-kick despite apparent late challenge by McCarthywww.independent.co.uk
The irony is that football has somehow ended up feeling more unjust and unfair than ever this season.I go.
It impacts certain moments, without doubt. But it has improved decisions.
You value spontaneity more and I value fairness more.
More with cups & then if less renew more availability for tickets ??Question - if you knock a ST on the head, hiow easy is it to get tickets via membership? Maybe 6-8 games a season ideally?
Words ain’t going stop VAR. It’s made to keep the big clubs happyIncredibly, some of the wisest words on this matter have come from our very own Jeff Shi …
“When a goal is scored and not one person inside the stadium questions the validity of that goal, including both sets of players, coaches, fans and even the match officials themselves, it’s time to question whether someone remote disallowing that goal is really what football wants or needs”.
And there lies the problem. We will never get our game back.The game is ruined and that's the way it will stayI go.
It impacts certain moments, without doubt. But it has improved decisions.
You value spontaneity more and I value fairness more.
But we will never know if his toe nail was offside or there was a hand ball in the build up or if there was a possible infringement on the halfway line will weI've said it before, more than once, but to me it remains the most obvious example of the cost of VAR.
If there was a vote on the most dramatic and memorable moment in Premier League history, the moment to sell the competition and football itself to any audience, it would be the Man City v QPR last minute title-winning Aguerrrrrrrroooooo goal. If VAR had been in place then, that moment in its purest form - the explosion, the celebration, the crowd, the commentary, every single ingredient - would not exist.
How blind does an organisation have to be to implement a system designed to potentially rob itself of its own most essential element?
I’m a member I have been to every home game except spurs this seasonQuestion - if you knock a ST on the head, hiow easy is it to get tickets via membership? Maybe 6-8 games a season ideally?
Im sure they offer you a membership plus aswell so you get a priority window to get tickets two days before members do.Question - if you knock a ST on the head, hiow easy is it to get tickets via membership? Maybe 6-8 games a season ideally?
When the next TV deal kicks in, it will be only 3pm games that won’t be on UK TV, the Bournemouth and Fulham gamesQuestion - if you knock a ST on the head, hiow easy is it to get tickets via membership? Maybe 6-8 games a season ideally?
I watched this Man City player today on tv sitting on the subs bench non stop spitting on the artificial grass in front of him
That set me thinking.It was probably their goalkeeper, Ederson, who was picking his nose and then spitting from the subs bench.
Who hasn't jumped up & down & hugged a large sweaty total stranger as a match winning shot enters the net in a crucial game? Presumably now you just feel dirty, dust yourself down & sheepishly apologise as VAR intervenes. Do we even need the actual match anymore? It's clearly all an inconvenience for the PGMOL. Appoint the ref & ask him the score. They're prepared to affect the league by taking points off teams for off-field non-footballing matters (with an inconsistent & inexplicable tariff) so why not just give us a point back for yesterday & dock two off West Ham?I've said it before, more than once, but to me it remains the most obvious example of the cost of VAR.
If there was a vote on the most dramatic and memorable moment in Premier League history, the moment to sell the competition and football itself to any audience, it would be the Man City v QPR last minute title-winning Aguerrrrrrrroooooo goal. If VAR had been in place then, that moment in its purest form - the explosion, the celebration, the crowd, the commentary, every single ingredient - would not exist.
How blind does an organisation have to be to implement a system designed to potentially rob itself of its own most essential element?
Good post.If there was no VAR wouldn't the next thing be the officials are not good enough abd we need ex players as officials . As the current bunch miss so many things like penalties , elbows , dives .
I am not saying anyway is correct but surely there has been more correct decisions overall the past 12 months rather than say 6 years ago . Not saying it is perfect but surely the major obvious issues are less frequent ?.
End of the day you are relying on Humans to still judge if a decision is correct . Unfortunately we make mistakes and that will never change .
Just wait till AI is used in a few seasons
VictimsHere we have Man Utd blaming us for not getting decisions
How many points has that Wolves game cost us?
I go.
It impacts certain moments, without doubt. But it has improved decisions.
You value spontaneity more and I value fairness more.
Looking for perfection in an imperfect world is for children.Good post.
People hate VAR but it’s just another official. So much errors in reffing before VAR came along.
I wish they’d improve how it’s used though.
I certainly never said or implied that it’s trivial for anyone to complain about VAR.Looking for perfection in an imperfect world is for children.
I do understand for non-attenders like you two it seems trivial for us to complain about VAR when to you it has increased decision accuracy by 1.3% which must be a positive.
VAR diminishes that which makes football beautiful.
Manchester United are famously hard done by when it comes to refereeing decisions, aren’t they.Here we have Man Utd blaming us for not getting decisions
How many points has that Wolves game cost us?
To be fair to most of those posting on that thread they savage the muppet who posted it.Here we have Man Utd blaming us for not getting decisions
How many points has that Wolves game cost us?
We tried that last season, ran into the same crap as this season, and then were treated to the FFP Olympics in the offseason.We just need a much stronger squad next season then maybe we can keep a lead.