Ait Nouri (Don't sell)

[Monketron]

The 'big 6' offer regular European football, can probably double or even triple your wages and you can tell your grandkids how you played for one of the more famous clubs. If people don't see the pull of all that to a young man who, while I'm sure is loving playing for Wolves, still doesn't really support Wolves or have any links to the area before joining us then I don't know what to say!

Hell even boyhood supporters of clubs will often jump at the chance to join one of the big teams, it's just the way it is.

 

[WickedWolfie]

The 'big 6' offer regular European football, can probably double or even triple your wages and you can tell your grandkids how you played for one of the more famous clubs. If people don't see the pull of all that to a young man who, while I'm sure is loving playing for Wolves, still doesn't really support Wolves or have any links to the area before joining us then I don't know what to say!

Hell even boyhood supporters of clubs will often jump at the chance to join one of the big teams, it's just the way it is.

Players want to play at the highest level that they can with the commensurate rewards. That's human nature.

 

[JOSWolf]

He is a joy to watch. He could easily play in midfield full time. A ridiculously talented player.

 

[WolfLing]

Players want to play at the highest level that they can with the commensurate rewards. That's human nature.

Yes and no.

Reward isn't just measured by achievement.

How many people could work for a 'bigger' company and be paid more elsewhere, but love their work environment, and their colleagues, so prioritise their happiness and job satisfaction over other material rewards?

A lot will depend on unknowns such as a player's character, ambition, and what's important to them.

Take Ruben Neves as an example. At Porto, he could have gone to most top European sides and spent years on their bench, picking up the odd trophy here and there. He chose to come to us and be part of an exciting project, and became a Wolves legend by doing so. Then when he left us, he chose to go to Saudi, where he will likely win a title and become another club legend at Al Hilal and earn an obscene amount of money in doing so.

These choices are not 'normal' in terms of a career path, yet will probably prove to be far more rewarding for him when he comes to retire, both in terms of how he is perceived and financially.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Yes and no.

Reward isn't just measured by achievement.

How many people could work for a 'bigger' company and be paid more elsewhere, but love their work environment, and their colleagues, so prioritise their happiness and job satisfaction over other material rewards?

A lot will depend on unknowns such as a player's character, ambition, and what's important to them.

Take Ruben Neves as an example. At Porto, he could have gone to most top European sides and spent years on their bench, picking up the odd trophy here and there. He chose to come to us and be part of an exciting project, and became a Wolves legend by doing so. Then when he left us, he chose to go to Saudi, where he will likely will a title and become another club legend at Al Hilal and earn an obscene amount of money in doing so.

These choices are not 'normal' in terms of a career path, yet will probably prove to be far more rewarding for him when he comes to retire, both in terms of how he is perceived and financially.

Some valid points. In truth even players who don't seek the maximum financial rewards earn sums most of us can only dream of.

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

I’m sure I’ve posted this before (potentially on this thread but not going to scroll through the replies).

A friend of mine shared a cab, the reason escapes me - I think it might have been out of necessity after a flight or train cancellation, with it turns out RAN’s Dad.

Cut a long story short, his Dad told him RAN was very close to leaving us to join Chelsea, more or less a done deal if I recall correctly. Circa summer 2021 I think. So he is obviously on the media 6’s radar.

Believe said friend as A) he’s not a Wolves fan B) literally would have no reason to make this up C) RAN hardly a big name at the time D) it was really random he brought it up

After reading this it’s less of an interesting story than I thought when starting to type, but here we are , just sharing what I’ve heard.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Neto and Ait-Nouri linked with top six clubs .Don't sell Hobbs and Jeff.

I generally don't like to modify a quote, but in this case.....
I'm ****ed off with the general acceptance that the *big* clubs will automatically come in and hoover up our best players.
The ****ing press gets me riled, "Liverpool and Arsenal are in the race for Pedro Neto"
What IS this ****ing race?

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

I generally don't like to modify a quote, but in this case.....
I'm ****ed off with the general acceptance that the *big* clubs will automatically come in and hoover up our best players.
The ****ing press gets me riled, "Liverpool and Arsenal are in the race for Pedro Neto"
What IS this ****ing race?

To sign him before his next injury?

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

But when our own fans do it??

I know what you guys are trying to do, get it in your heads that Neto has gone already, so when or if he does leave the blow is softened somewhat.
The same thing happened with Ruben, every ****ing window, "Oh he's definitely going"
Get a grip, not every player has the morals and ethics of Nunes.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Here endeth the amateur psychology lesson.

 

[Streathamwolf]

I generally don't like to modify a quote, but in this case.....
I'm ****ed off with the general acceptance that the *big* clubs will automatically come in and hoover up our best players.
The ****ing press gets me riled, "Liverpool and Arsenal are in the race for Pedro Neto"
What IS this ****ing race?

Yeah, gets up my nose too. As does the habit on here of discussing or suggesting selling our players as soon as they have a decent run of form. Still, such is life.

Ah, point already made!

 

[steve vena]

The 'big 6' offer regular European football, can probably double or even triple your wages and you can tell your grandkids how you played for one of the more famous clubs. If people don't see the pull of all that to a young man who, while I'm sure is loving playing for Wolves, still doesn't really support Wolves or have any links to the area before joining us then I don't know what to say!

Hell even boyhood supporters of clubs will often jump at the chance to join one of the big teams, it's just the way it is.

Unfortunately you are right mate. We are a smaller fish swimming with sharks.

 

[Werewolf of Wombourne]

But when our own fans do it??

I know what you guys are trying to do, get it in your heads that Neto has gone already, so when or if he does leave the blow is softened somewhat.
The same thing happened with Ruben, every ****ing window, "Oh he's definitely going"
Get a grip, not every player has the morals and ethics of Nunes.

A lot of our guys look like they are having the time of their lives training and playing with each other so unless they are motivated purely by money then I can't see a big queue pushing to leave

 

[Jawwfc]

Unfortunately you are right mate. We are a smaller fish swimming with sharks.

Agree but we are fairly big fish in football pyramid we can offer wages better than 90% of the football league possibly even worldwide.

Most 8-16 clubs will lose players to City, Liverpool etc we get players from Spain, Portugal, Championship/efl with higher wages.

 

[Wagstaffe Was Magic]

They’re known as the top six because most seasons that’s where they finish.
Any player in his mid twenties is not going to think wolves are a bigger club that’s just delusional. When was our last top 6 finish? Almost 50 years ago.

It would help us if Matt Hobbs PR was a little less deferential too!!

We have to set our stall on breaking that glass ceiling. It was spoken of at the time of the take over!!

We have the players, just not enough of them. We have had some brilliant results against the so called big clubs too.

I will never accept the idea that Sky determine what constitutes greatness in a club.

I’m a Wolves supporter and proud to support such a great club

 

[steve vena]

It would help us if Matt Hobbs PR was a little less deferential too!!

We have to set our stall on breaking that glass ceiling. It was spoken of at the time of the take over!!

We have the players, just not enough of them. We have had some brilliant results against the so called big clubs too.

I will never accept the idea that Sky determine what constitutes greatness in a club.

I’m a Wolves supporter and proud to support such a great club

Amen brother.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

ait nouri and gomes are more important to us than neto. we must keep them and hopefully cunha for at least 2 more seasons

Totally agree

 

[Hsvwolf]

Another star player without a song … how about ……To Kaiser Chiefs I predict a riot


Na na naa
Na na na na na naaa
Rayan Ait Nouri
Rayan Ait Nouri

Repeat

 

[Planty]

Thought we'd established it's Rayan, Rayan Ait Nouri, runs down the wing for me?

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

We will do well to keep him in the summer.

We will recieve big bids from big clubs.

 

[maws]

Bigger clubs buy less big clubs best players! Sorry it’s not new, it’s not a big 6 thing, and anyone thinking players won’t wanna move is being too emotional! Jack left Vile ffs so there you have it

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

Bigger clubs buy less big clubs best players! Sorry it’s not new, it’s not a big 6 thing, and anyone thinking players won’t wanna move is being too emotional! Jack left Vile ffs so there you have it

You ok hun?

 

[maws]

You ok hun?

?

 

[Milijas]

Yes and no.

Reward isn't just measured by achievement.

How many people could work for a 'bigger' company and be paid more elsewhere, but love their work environment, and their colleagues, so prioritise their happiness and job satisfaction over other material rewards?

A lot will depend on unknowns such as a player's character, ambition, and what's important to them.

Take Ruben Neves as an example. At Porto, he could have gone to most top European sides and spent years on their bench, picking up the odd trophy here and there. He chose to come to us and be part of an exciting project, and became a Wolves legend by doing so. Then when he left us, he chose to go to Saudi, where he will likely win a title and become another club legend at Al Hilal and earn an obscene amount of money in doing so.

These choices are not 'normal' in terms of a career path, yet will probably prove to be far more rewarding for him when he comes to retire, both in terms of how he is perceived and financially.

Oh come on it's not comparable to the real world..

Billy works at Tesco for £11 an hour but turns down aldis £12 an hour as he's mates with big baz and Sheryl looks after his nans dog.

Ryan Ait nouri £50k a year wolves or £120k a year at Chelsea

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Probably our most valuable asset now along with Cunha. Zero doubt we will see 40 million + offers for him.

 

[Rowzed]

Oh come on it's not comparable to the real world..

Billy works at Tesco for £11 an hour but turns down aldis £12 an hour as he's mates with big baz and Sheryl looks after his nans dog.

Ryan Ait nouri £50k a year wolves or £120k a year at Chelsea

Except it’s 120k per week!

 

[WickedWolfie]

Oh come on it's not comparable to the real world..

Billy works at Tesco for £11 an hour but turns down aldis £12 an hour as he's mates with big baz and Sheryl looks after his nans dog.

Ryan Ait nouri £50k a year wolves or £120k a year at Chelsea

Hmmm..... £2.5M a year at Molineux or £120k at the Bridge lol... Methinks there was a slight error there....m

 

[Milijas]

Hmmm..... £2.5M a year at Molineux or £120k at the Bridge lol... Methinks there was a slight error there....m

Maths isn't my strongest point 8 San Miguel's in but you get the picture! (A week obvs)

Edit it's not 2.5m at molineux cos I said a year there too.

 

[Milijas]

Except it’s 120k per week!

It's also 50k a week sorry.. drunk

 

[WickedWolfie]

Maths isn't my strongest point 8 San Miguel's in but you get the picture! (A week obvs)

Edit it's not 2.5m at molineux cos I said a year there too.

I missed that lol.... Enjoy the San Miguel - hopefully the real stuff rather than the UK license brewed crap - with that posting name shouldn't it be rakija, brandy or vodka lol.....

Better not mention that both my degrees were maths-based lol....

 

[AndyY]

Time to get him on a new contract?

 

[Seenitallayi]

I seem to recall that RAN’s previous club had a 50% sell on clause and that Wolves could buy themselves out of this clause for £10m. Anyone else think the same? Did we ever pay the extra £10m? Might be a bit of a problem!

 

[LincolnWolf]

On this RAN 50% Sell on Clause that we can buy out for rumoured £10m, this is only ever something to deal with if/when we sell him. No sale, no problem. The club will also be building it into his valuation if clubs ever come asking. Here is a few examples of how it will work based on value of transfer fee:

1. Wolves sell RAN for £10m
Wolves don’t buy out of the clause
Angers get 50% which is £5m
Wolves get 50% which is £5m

2. Wolves sell RAN for £19m
Wolves don’t buy out of the clause
Angers get 50% which is £9.5m
Wolves get 50% which is £9.5m

3. Wolves sell RAN for £21m
Wolves do buy out the clause for £10m
Angers get the £10m
Wolves get the remaining £11m

4. Wolves sell RAN for £30m (or more)
Wolves do buy out the clause for £10m
Angers get the £10m
Wolves get the remaining £20m (or more)

 

[steve vena]

Probably our most valuable asset now along with Cunha. Zero doubt we will see 40 million + offers for him.

70 mill.

 

[Minimalist]

On this RAN 50% Sell on Clause that we can buy out for rumoured £10m, this is only ever something to deal with if/when we sell him. No sale, no problem. The club will also be building it into his valuation if clubs ever come asking. Here is a few examples of how it will work based on value of transfer fee:

1. Wolves sell RAN for £10m
Wolves don’t buy out of the clause
Angers get 50% which is £5m
Wolves get 50% which is £5m

2. Wolves sell RAN for £19m
Wolves don’t buy out of the clause
Angers get 50% which is £9.5m
Wolves get 50% which is £9.5m

3. Wolves sell RAN for £21m
Wolves do buy out the clause for £10m
Angers get the £10m
Wolves get the remaining £11m

4. Wolves sell RAN for £30m (or more)
Wolves do buy out the clause for £10m
Angers get the £10m
Wolves get the remaining £20m (or more)

Yep.
The only other scenario is we give RAN a new 5 year contract, then contact Angers and make an offer to buy out the contract for , say, £5m. If Angers could do with the money sooner rather than later they may accept.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Yep.
The only other scenario is we give RAN a new 5 year contract, then contact Angers and make an offer to buy out the contract for , say, £5m. If Angers could do with the money sooner rather than later they may accept.

I'm not sure about this particular sell on clause, but some of these clauses have an expiry date.

 

[VancouverWolf]

But when our own fans do it??

I know what you guys are trying to do, get it in your heads that Neto has gone already, so when or if he does leave the blow is softened somewhat.
The same thing happened with Ruben, every ****ing window, "Oh he's definitely going"
Get a grip, not every player has the morals and ethics of Nunes.

I think it’s about the compulsion on the Mix to post even the slightest rumour/gossip. Sometimes I think the scale of these rumours are akin to a drop of water in an Olympic size pool.

 

[Zico]

I generally don't like to modify a quote, but in this case.....
I'm ****ed off with the general acceptance that the *big* clubs will automatically come in and hoover up our best players.
The ****ing press gets me riled, "Liverpool and Arsenal are in the race for Pedro Neto"
What IS this ****ing race?

But when we're linked with players and see headlines like "Wolves are in the race for...." do we complain then?

 

[maws]

If Curcuella (apologies on spelling) is £60m so is RAN

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

A lot of our guys look like they are having the time of their lives training and playing with each other so unless they are motivated purely by money then I can't see a big queue pushing to leave

They are all professional footballers with relatively short careers so ofc they are motivated by money
They also want the best career possible with something to show for it at the end if they can
The chance to win something cannot be dismissed,and that means top 6 clubs, which we arent and probably wont be for sometime to come
We have to be realistic and understand where we are as a club,and that means understanding that our best players will move on as and when decent offers come in,its a harsh reality but its where we are