What shoould Wolves do next with Fabio Silva?

[thetwistedsock]

I've said it before the fella needs help from a sports psychiatrist like Steve Peters.

 

[Bryce]

Whereas Kircaldy (Raith) is the land that time forgot. Truly awful.

Rangers fans’ not enthusiastic about Fab… Fabio Silva

4 pages of fans saying exactly what has been said here. If he can’t cut it playing in that league for a top team then I fear for his future anywhere, and it means a huge loss for us in money.
Main themes from their fans
Weak
Slow
No heart
Can’t score
Theatrical
Anonymous

We have seen all of the above.
Shame- nice kid but not a generational talent Jeff

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Have done this before, but just to say again on his book value.

Signed for £35m in Summer '20 over 5 years.
Written down at £7m a year for 2 years
So in 2022 he had a book value of £21m
Then signed an extension to '26
So written down at £5.25m for 2 years.
Book value this Summer £11m.

So if we keep him (and loan him out for wages only) we have to write down another £5.25m. We might then sell him for that much. So he's cost us £5.25m for this year but not next. If we sell him now for £5.25m he costs us £5.25m this year, but not next. So what's the difference.

Also we will have no PSR issues next year, it's only a question of to what degree Fosun want to subsidise the club (and also not getting ourselves in a position where we might struggle with the rules in 25/26).

 

[Pengwern]

His psyche is not good now - I think he neds a move to southern Europe, where his talents will show a much better game than in Northern Europe, and that will make him a happier, more consistent player; then we can add a sell-on clause and make some money when he moves to bigger clubs in Southen Europe.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Have done this before, but just to say again on his book value.

Signed for £35m in Summer '20 over 5 years.
Written down at £7m a year for 2 years
So in 2022 he had a book value of £21m
Then signed an extension to '26
So written down at £5.25m for 2 years.
Book value this Summer £11m.

So if we keep him (and loan him out for wages only) we have to write down another £5.25m. We might then sell him for that much. So he's cost us £5.25m for this year but not next. If we sell him now for £5.25m he costs us £5.25m this year, but not next. So what's the difference.

Also we will have no PSR issues next year, it's only a question of to what degree Fosun want to subsidise the club (and also not getting ourselves in a position where we might struggle with the rules in 25/26).

Personally I don't give a **** about him as a player; gave up on him a long time ago. All I'm interested in is the Club making the best out of him financially. In simple terms are we better off financially selling him this summer for whatever (not much?) OR loaning him out again in the hope his value increases in say 12 months?

 

[Minimalist]

Apparently the Saudi clubs plan to target younger players this summer.
Fingers crossed…..

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Apparently the Saudi clubs plan to target younger players this summer.
Fingers crossed…..

I mean Mendes could get us our money back it’s a miracle lol

 

[Aimless Balls]

His psyche is not good now - I think he neds a move to southern Europe, where his talents will show a much better game than in Northern Europe, and that will make him a happier, more consistent player; then we can add a sell-on clause and make some money when he moves to bigger clubs in Southen Europe.

It’s over, the time to sell him for anything was in January. Fabio will end up going somewhere as a free transfer, maybe here in Toronto. We have the most Portuguese outside Portugal last I heard, enough to throw him into Lake Ontario and push his raft south toward the US.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Also we will have no PSR issues next year, it's only a question of to what degree Fosun want to subsidise the club (and also not getting ourselves in a position where we might struggle with the rules in 25/26).

I think it's quite obvious Fosun don't want to subsidise the club and very understandable too.

We as fans shouldn't want them to subsidise the club, it's not sustainable.

Fosun however have shown they will subsidise the club in a pinch.

I for one don't ever want a repeat of our financial situation this season. Overspending on players and weakening our hand when negotiating deals for outgoing players is not the way to keep the club on a sound financial footing.

 

[brianm]

At this point I'm just morbidly curious what the final number for his sale will be.

4-6m with a 50% sell-on seems best case. Maybe a Spanish club bites. He's a total punt now imo.

C'mon Mendes. Pull some ****.

Incidentally: man, Chelsea are in trouble with Broja, huh? At least they didn't pay for him, but they need money for youth players, and that loan at Fulham has not been good.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

He's a total punt now imo.

That's a bit strong.

 

[DJLWolf]

That's a bit strong.

Certainly stronger than Silva himself.

 

[Contrarian]

Just wondering if part of the issue is that he has been mostly playing at a level higher than he is really at. His best spell was at Anderlecht, in the Belgian League. Every other league he's played in, he's struggled.

Possibly another aspect of the ridiculous fee. What he needed was to be playing at League 1 level at best for a few seasons, but that would have cast doubts on the fee. Because you can get League 1 level forwards at 17 - 20 for a lot less!! So he's been sent out playing at a level above that of which he is capable, in the hope that some magic will happen and that unique talent we were promised will finally shine through. It just hasn't happened yet.

 

[brianm]

Just wondering if part of the issue is that he has been mostly playing at a level higher than he is really at. His best spell was at Anderlecht, in the Belgian League. Every other league he's played in, he's struggled.

Possibly another aspect of the ridiculous fee. What he needed was to be playing at League 1 level at best for a few seasons, but that would have cast doubts on the fee. Because you can get League 1 level forwards at 17 - 20 for a lot less!! So he's been sent out playing at a level above that of which he is capable, in the hope that some magic will happen and that unique talent we were promised will finally shine through. It just hasn't happened yet.

Let's send him to Wrexham next season. Great storyline for those guys.

 

[Bradstonian]

I wonder if he’ll start tonight?

 

[Edinburgh Wolf]

If he is not setting that league alight, then he won't make it in the Premier league. The likes of Boyd and Larrson have looked world class in Scotland and been average elsewhere. Our Oscar Wilde lookalike has flattered to deceive, but he hasn't got it. Any money we get fir him is better than paying his wages. Nice lad I'm sure, but not a proper premierleague striker

Henrik Larsson was a superb player and a consumate professional, who showed as much at Celtic (particularly in Europe), Barca, and at international level. Definitely the best player I've seen in Scotland in my lifetime - above Gazza, Laudrup, van Dyke, van Bronckhorst, Butcher etc. Well, second best behind Sergi Baltacha, who was an absolute Rolls Royce of a defender ......

Kris Boyd was an unprofessional, overweight, flat track, bully, who was happy eating monster munch and burgers whilst slagging off managers and scoring tap ins for rangers.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Just wondering if part of the issue is that he has been mostly playing at a level higher than he is really at. His best spell was at Anderlecht, in the Belgian League. Every other league he's played in, he's struggled.

Possibly another aspect of the ridiculous fee. What he needed was to be playing at League 1 level at best for a few seasons, but that would have cast doubts on the fee. Because you can get League 1 level forwards at 17 - 20 for a lot less!! So he's been sent out playing at a level above that of which he is capable, in the hope that some magic will happen and that unique talent we were promised will finally shine through. It just hasn't happened yet.

I said some time ago that he should go out on loan to a championship club. It’s a tough division, and I think Wolves would have had a better idea of his capabilities rather than sending him to Scotland.

 

[lobodelsur]

I mean Mendes could get us our money back it’s a miracle lol

Either way, Guo needs to be in Mendes' ear about the Silva deal, looking for compensation in some form.

 

[brianm]

I said some time ago that he should go out on loan to a championship club. It’s a tough division, and I think Wolves would have had a better idea of his capabilities rather than sending him to Scotland.

Is he good enough to hold down a starting position in the Championship?

It seems clear to me the answer is emphatically no, but I don't watch a ton of it. My feeling is a player needs to be pretty good to rise above the work rate of the less talented players in that league, and there is also some talent.

 

[brianm]

Either way, Guo needs to be in Mendes' ear about the Silva deal, looking for compensation in some form.

The remarkable Nunes to City deal was a start imo. A less favorable deal would have been brutal for Wolves, and he was leaving regardless.

 

[lobodelsur]

The remarkable Nunes to City deal was a start imo. A less favorable deal would have been brutal for Wolves, and he was leaving regardless.

It was a start, but only a start. Our profit on Nunes doesn't compensate anything like the cost of the Silva debacle.

 

[brianm]

It was a start, but only a start. Our profit on Nunes doesn't compensate anything like the cost of the Silva debacle.

Oh I didn't mean raw numbers. Getting all the money up front and getting Doyle in that deal was ridiculous. Without those two things, wolves are up a creek.

Arguably salvaged the season imo.

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

I said some time ago that he should go out on loan to a championship club. It’s a tough division, and I think Wolves would have had a better idea of his capabilities rather than sending him to Scotland.

He doesnt look that good in Scotland so i think we already know the answer

 

[WickedWolfie]

It was a start, but only a start. Our profit on Nunes doesn't compensate anything like the cost of the Silva debacle.

So what about our profits on Ruben, Diego....

 

[Rabid Wolf]

I said some time ago that he should go out on loan to a championship club. It’s a tough division, and I think Wolves would have had a better idea of his capabilities rather than sending him to Scotland.

There were Championship clubs interested in Fabio in January but Fabio and his advisers thought the Championship was beneath them.

 

[Jawwfc]

There were Championship clubs interested in Fabio in January but Fabio and his advisers thought the Championship was beneath them.

I dont get that at all the Championship is far more competetive than the SPL and apart from Celtic/Rangers there are bigger clubs than the SPL I'd much rather be playing against the likes of Leicester, Leeds, Sheff Wed, Norwich, Ipswich etc than the likes of Kilmarnock, Ross County and Hibs.

The standard of player is also much higher I couldn't see celtic or rangers beating Ipswich, Leeds, Southampton, Leicester if I'm honest.

 

[Rabid Wolf]

I dont get that at all the Championship is far more competetive than the SPL and apart from Celtic/Rangers there are bigger clubs than the SPL I'd much rather be playing against the likes of Leicester, Leeds, Sheff Wed, Norwich, Ipswich etc than the likes of Kilmarnock, Ross County and Hibs.

The standard of player is also much higher I couldn't see celtic or rangers beating Ipswich, Leeds, Southampton, Leicester if I'm honest.

Agreed if you can't hack the Championship then you'll probably won't hack the PL.

 

[Jawwfc]

Agreed if you can't hack the Championship then you'll probably won't hack the PL.

I would say outside the big leagues such as the PL,Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 the championship is next best to those.

Most the other leagues such as Beligum, Holland etc tend to have one or two teams which dominate and the rest tend to be below championship standard.

 

[Edinburgh Wolf]

He doesnt look that good in Scotland so i think we already know the answer

They're completely different sorts of football, it seems. There's many players over the years who have been utterly useless up here, but have played regularly in the Championship, and even the EPL. There's even a few who have been talked about as possible signings on here, who were so crap in Scotland that the thought of them pulling on a Wolves shirt would give me the fear!

Having said that, I fully agree with you!

 

[Minimalist]

There were Championship clubs interested in Fabio in January but Fabio and his advisers thought the Championship was beneath them.

This pretty much sums up the situation.
Him (AND his ADVISORS) think he deserves better than he has proven he is worth.

 

[WickedWolfie]

This pretty much sums up the situation.
Him (AND his ADVISORS) think he deserves better than he has proven he is worth.

Not going to comment on Silva. His main advisor is, l believe, his father.....

 

[Minimalist]

Not going to comment on Silva. His main advisor is, l believe, his father.....

Apparently so…. Not exactly a rational or impartial opinion to rely on….

 

[ombyman]

Ag

Just wondering if part of the issue is that he has been mostly playing at a level higher than he is really at. His best spell was at Anderlecht, in the Belgian League. Every other league he's played in, he's struggled.

Possibly another aspect of the ridiculous fee. What he needed was to be playing at League 1 level at best for a few seasons, but that would have cast doubts on the fee. Because you can get League 1 level forwards at 17 - 20 for a lot less!! So he's been sent out playing at a level above that of which he is capable, in the hope that some magic will happen and that unique talent we were promised will finally shine through. It just hasn't happened yet.

Agree, but the Belgian league is better than SPL. But SPL will be harder for him because of the physicality.
In fact he would struggle to get goals at a PowerLeague in Glasgow, I bet they are tough games!

 

[Matt]

Hopefully we can ship him off to Saudi Arabia, I think that’s our best case scenario. I can’t see anyone else paying £10m+ for him so he would end up back out on loan imo.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Apparently so…. Not exactly a rational or impartial opinion to rely on….

Or indeed any sort of deep football expert....

 

[Starsky]

This pretty much sums up the situation.
Him (AND his ADVISORS) think he deserves better than he has proven he is worth.

Agreed. His dad has been/will be disastrous for his career.

 

[old wittonian]

Fabio starts for Rangers tonight.

 

[brianm]

Fabio starts for Rangers tonight.

Let's hope he does something good!

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

Or indeed any sort of deep football expert....

You mean like Haaland's dad?

 

[lobodelsur]

So what about our profits on Ruben, Diego....

Guo needs to remind Mendes that he's in the business to make a profit on players, as per the 'Football leaks' story, not losses.