I have something to say that doesn’t require it’s own thread.

[Edinburgh Wolf]

I find it bizarre and baffling how worked up people are getting over this. It's happened to plenty other nations in recent years, and nobody else has really given two ****s.

Brazil have had a different version of their flag on the collar of their shirt, scotland currently have a weird purple stripy version of the saltire on their shirt, whilst in the past diadora also put a massive sky blue cross on a white away shirt. Didn't mean any of us Scottish people celebrated any less when Faddy stuck the 30 yarder into the top corner against France ffs!

 

[clivewolves]

This international break is boring.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

@Wednesbury Wolf called it virtue signalling in his earlier post but refuses to say what virtue it's actually signalling. I think he either doesn't know what virtue signalling means or just heard someone like Lee Anderson say it so thought it must be true.

I really don't understand the is fuss about and why people are so insecure about their flag on the back of the collar of a football shirt. Hand on heart, if someone changed the colour of the Welsh flag on our football shirt I wouldn't give a monkeys.

No one blinked an eye when Team GB had this on their kit in the 2012 London Olympics (or at UKIP's purple Union Jack for that matter). Are people just becoming more sensitive as time goes by, each trying to prove themselves more 'patriotic' than the other, or is social media just an outrage machine that is driving people potty it's attempt to squeeze money out of every click?

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Thanks I was trying to think of other examples.

I remember this being an Oasis fan thing lol. Explains why nothing showed up on my searches.

To think that's a stylisation of the flag our military fights and dies for to this very day...

Yet politicians didn't say a word about it.

I'll admit to thinking at the time - "should have just left the red in it" but not because I found it distasteful in any way. I just think it would have been better.

 

[mcwolf]

Somebody from the FA must have signed off on it. Potential problems should have been identified at that point.

This is the guy who signed it off Navin Singh who left the fa last year and joined the Chief Commercial Officer of Six Nations Rugby.

 

[Ginger Chimp]

It's not the first time the colours of our flag have been changed on a kit. I don't remember this outrage back then though.

True … I don’t remember it happening, though (not saying it didn’t).

 

[Longford Wolf]

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There's plenty of examples of Americans changing the colours of their flag. I've seen "old glory" in all the team colours of the NFL.

Even the Police have a black and white flag with the middle stripe in blue!

I've seen camouflage flags and not just on uniforms.

And of course rainbow stars and stripes, which people have pushed back on, calling it "disrespectful" and "obscene".

The same people don't seem to complain about the Police or military flags though or flags in the colours of their favourite sports teams.

Almost as if they have an agenda!

How could you see a camouflage flag ? If you could see it , surely it’s just a flag

 

[iamthenewno2]

This is a design choice lol. The fact you're ignoring the fact the cross no longer has it's field (the white bit) speaks volumes as to your position on this.

I don't have a position on this, I really don't care about the national team or a north of a 100 pound shirt, but I, and I could be mistaken here, am sure I read that it is meant to be the flag on the collar and if that is true then people can call out their choice to change it, mainly as it isn't the flag if the colours are changed.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

I don't have a position on this, I really don't care about the national team or a north of a 100 pound shirt, but I, and I could be mistaken here, am sure I read that it is meant to be the flag on the collar and if that is true then people can call out their choice to change it, mainly as it isn't the flag if the colours are changed.

It's clearly a representation of the flag but so are lots of things.

For example...

It's not the actual flag, it's the wrong shape for a start. It's clearly a "playful" take on the flag.

This is nothing new. There was a time when red on an England shirt was the stuff of a madmans dreams.

But along came the 80's and 90's and changed all that.

 

[Dumbwolf]

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Nike being a foreign company doesn't help. There is no way that they would ever do that to the US flag.

Well here's evidence of another big American brand using the American flag and changing it's colours on one of their products...

 

[Monketron]

Anti-racism groups condemn Webber 'jail' comments

Anti-racism campaign groups condemn "disgraceful" comments made by ex-Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber about five black footballers.

www.bbc.co.uk

Our former Head of Recruitment putting his foot in it.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Anti-racism groups condemn Webber 'jail' comments

Anti-racism campaign groups condemn "disgraceful" comments made by ex-Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber about five black footballers.

www.bbc.co.uk

Our former Head of Recruitment putting his foot in it.

Then you see some on other threads denying that football has a racism issue. I doubt if he'll get another job in the UK.

 

[Jawwfc]

James Trafford has been called up to the England squad.

He's the worst keeper in the league, I'm sure we must have better English keepers in the championship than him.

 

[OLDGOLD]

James Trafford has been called up to the England squad.

He's the worst keeper in the league, I'm sure we must have better English keepers in the championship than him.

Perhaps his middle name is Old and the selectors couldn't help spaffing their load over it?

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

To be fair, you shouldn't **** with a nation's flag for any reason. Imagine Nike swapping the colours on the Stars and Stripes.

Imagine no more...
I know it's hard to believe that Nike, the "made in China" bastion of American ideals would do such a thing, but alas, they have.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Nike do the Saudi strip imagine them altering that they wouldn't dare.

It's illegal to desecrate the flag of Saudi Arabia (of which, a legal argument with regards a colour change could probably be made). The punishment although unknown may well be harsh. Of course they wouldn't dare.

Such laws don't exist here. You can burn a flag of your choice in this country (as long as you own it) as part of your right for free speech.

 

[Rowzed]

James Trafford has been called up to the England squad.

He's the worst keeper in the league, I'm sure we must have better English keepers in the championship than him.

He’s a decent young keeper and very highly rated. It’s tough playing for Burnley or Sheffield United if you are the keeper.

U21s are often called up to seniors for encouragement before they become a regular part of the squad, then drop back to the U21s

He was the best keeper in the U21 European championship last summer ( did not concede one goal for the whole tournament ) and is still young enough to play in the same team again. Most keepers take years to get the experience he has already.

I think it’s good management, I doubt he will start!

 

[WickedWolfie]

He’s a decent young keeper and very highly rated. It’s tough playing for Burnley or Sheffield United if you are the keeper.

U21s are often called up to seniors for encouragement before they become a regular part of the squad, then drop back to the U21s

He was the best keeper in the U21 European championship last summer ( did not concede one goal for the whole tournament ) and is still young enough to play in the same team again. Most keepers take years to get the experience he has already.

I think it’s good management, I doubt he will start!

No different to us including our own youngsters in the travelling squad....

 

[Ginger Chimp]

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I know it's hard to believe that Nike, the "made in China" bastion of American ideals would do such a thing, but alas, they have.

Ok. You win.

 

[Southdownswolf]

He’s a decent young keeper and very highly rated. It’s tough playing for Burnley or Sheffield United if you are the keeper.

U21s are often called up to seniors for encouragement before they become a regular part of the squad, then drop back to the U21s

He was the best keeper in the U21 European championship last summer ( did not concede one goal for the whole tournament ) and is still young enough to play in the same team again. Most keepers take years to get the experience he has already.

I think it’s good management, I doubt he will start!

I remember Tim Flowers playing for us in the bleak days of our decline down the tables. He was a fantastic goalkeeper; apparent even then.
As you say, if the team around is terrible, then the goalie doesn't always stand a chance.

 

[MasWolf]

We were linked with him last Jan (2023). Looks like we dodged one there!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772355980363219290

 

[WorcesterWanderer]

Can't wait for us to be back. I don't think I've watched the telly at all since we last played.

 

[The Wolf In The North]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772537848702361790

First Southgate, now Frank. Call me cynical, but I'm sure clubs leak nonsense like this to encourage fans to quietly STFU and stop whining about the manager they already have, by showing them it could be worse.

 

[JadeWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772537848702361790

First Southgate, now Frank. Call me cynical, but I'm sure clubs leak nonsense like this to encourage fans to quietly STFU and stop whining about the manager they already have, by showing them it could be worse.

I think the Man Utd fans would rather burn down the stadium than watch the kind of “football” Frank serves up.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I think the Man Utd fans would rather burn down the stadium than watch the kind of “football” Frank serves up.

Sign him up fast, lol....

 

[WolvesAndCows]

Tuchel to Man Utd, Potter to West Ham, Howe to England

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Tuchel to Man Utd, Potter to West Ham, Howe to England

Who to Newcastle?

 

[HICKO]

Who to Newcastle?

Coles

 

[WorcesterWanderer]

Who to Newcastle?

West Ham and Newcastle have decided that the fans will manage the club, because no manager will ever be good enough for their high expectations, especially West Ham, given that they are the 'academy of football'(!)

 

[Ginger Chimp]

West Ham and Newcastle have decided that the fans will manage the club, because no manager will ever be good enough for their high expectations, especially West Ham, given that they are the 'academy of football'(!)

Fair point, well made.

 

[Jack Russell]

Let's be honest though, as soon as people like Lee Anderson and Joey Barton see stripes with more than two colours they think it's some sort of LGBT thing - still honouring victims of the Diocletian Purge is prominent in many minds I get that.

I thought that was some sort of enema until I looked it up!

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Agreed

Faux controversy = real publicity.

It’s a ****ing boring kit. Tedious. Ooh quick let’s mess with the flag NOW ITS EVERYWHERE

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Who to Newcastle?

Who's on first?

 

[Spitfire]

Who's on first?

What’s on second?

 

[WickedWolfie]

See that "charmer" Joey Barton is at it again, slagging off a 17 year old female goalkeeper. Oh also having a dig at her dad. I really hope that Barton and the seven times world kickboxing champion meet. Methinks that rent-a-gob Barton would soil himself......

‘Horrible’ Joey Barton comments and online abuse of 17-year-old female goalkeeper branded ‘bullying’

Joey Barton has been branded a “bully” and condemned for firing “horrible” online criticism at 17-year-old Partick Thistle goalkeeper Ava Easdon.

uk.yahoo.com

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Thank goodness football is back this weekend.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

See that "charmer" Joey Barton is at it again, slagging off a 17 year old female goalkeeper. Oh also having a dig at her dad. I really hope that Barton and the seven times world kickboxing champion meet. Methinks that rent-a-gob Barton would soil himself......

‘Horrible’ Joey Barton comments and online abuse of 17-year-old female goalkeeper branded ‘bullying’

Joey Barton has been branded a “bully” and condemned for firing “horrible” online criticism at 17-year-old Partick Thistle goalkeeper Ava Easdon.

uk.yahoo.com

I wonder if he has been so nasty towards Jordan Pickford for his error which allowed Belgium to score? I doubt it. Because Pickford is a man, Barton will probably just dismiss it as one of those things that happen!

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

See that "charmer" Joey Barton is at it again, slagging off a 17 year old female goalkeeper. Oh also having a dig at her dad. I really hope that Barton and the seven times world kickboxing champion meet. Methinks that rent-a-gob Barton would soil himself......

‘Horrible’ Joey Barton comments and online abuse of 17-year-old female goalkeeper branded ‘bullying’

Joey Barton has been branded a “bully” and condemned for firing “horrible” online criticism at 17-year-old Partick Thistle goalkeeper Ava Easdon.

uk.yahoo.com

Instead of all these YouTubers fighting, someone should put up some money for Barton to fight this girls world kickboxing champion dad. I speak only for myself but I’d pay big money to see someone turn Barton’s lights out for a bit.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Instead of all these YouTubers fighting, someone should put up some money for Barton to fight this girls world kickboxing champion dad. I speak only for myself but I’d pay big money to see someone turn Barton’s lights out for a bit.

Re your last sentence you certainly are not the only one! I would love to see someone shut the gobby POS up. There are those who would say that a jaw injury would be ideal....

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Re your last sentence you certainly are not the only one! I would love to see someone shut the gobby POS up. There are those who would say that a jaw injury would be ideal....

I wonder what his wife and teenage kids think of the nonsense he comes out with?