What shoould Wolves do next with Fabio Silva?

[Ned]

Silva puts in the work rate attacking left could be his new position never going to be physical enough to lead the line…. Sounds really happy at Rangers. Could it be another loan with contract extension?

I wouldn't sign one if I was Fabio and I doubt that he will.

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Opta Power Rankings suggest the Championship is considerably better than the SPL. In fact, they don't even have the SPL in the top 30 leagues in the world....

Opta Power Rankings: Top Leagues (September 2023)​

1 English Premier League 87.66
2 German Bundesliga 84.04
3 Italian Serie A 83.46
4 Spanish La Liga 83.43
5 French Ligue 1 81.41
6 English Championship 78.58
7 Dutch Eredivisie 77.24
8 Portuguese Primeira Liga 77.20
9 Belgian Pro League 77.19
10 Brazilian Serie A 76.43
11 Swiss Super League 75.72
12 Turkish Super Lig 75.65
13 Russian Premier Liga 75.08
14 Danish Superliga 75.00
15 MLS 74.77
16 Austrian Bundesliga 74.76
17 Spanish La Liga 2 74.42
18 Polish Ekstraklasa 73.88
19 Argentine Liga Prodessional 73.66
20 German 2. Bundesliga 73.62
21 Croatian HNL 73.45
22 Mexican Liga MX 73.20
23 Cypriot First Division 72.47
24 Swedish Allsvenskan 72.30
25 Japanese J1 League 72.16
26 South Korean K League 1 72.09
27 Saudi Pro League 71.94
28 Israeli Premier League 71.56
29 Romanian Liga I 71.40
30 Norwegian Eliteserien 71.33

Also, this Rangers team doesn't get promoted from the Championship. It's bang average and made up of mid-tier Champ players and other castaways.

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But what are those rankings based on is what i would like to know? Year on year prem clubs sign Portuguese players and they very often shine in the prem. Year on year three clubs win promotion from the championship and nore often than not they are terrible. But the championship is apparently better than the Portuguese league. Those rankings are a farce.

 

[CelebrityWolf]

And the MLS is marginally worse than several decent euro leagues and better than the Argentine league where a plethora of european clubs sign stars from each year. How often do they sign stars from the MLS? Yeah alright

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Fabio Silva is wasting Wolves and his own time at Rangers..
They won't even buy him for £5 million according to this report..

Rangers: Fabio Silva permanent Wolves transfer mooted at Ibrox

Four Lads have reacted to the latest Rangers development as permanent a Fabio Silva transfer has been mooted at Ibrox.

www.ibroxnews.com

 

[Perton Wolf]

Fabio Silva is wasting Wolves and his own time at Rangers..
They won't even buy him for £5 million according to this report..

Rangers: Fabio Silva permanent Wolves transfer mooted at Ibrox

Four Lads have reacted to the latest Rangers development as permanent a Fabio Silva transfer has been mooted at Ibrox.

www.ibroxnews.com

Pointless loan really.

Just need to get whatever we can for him in the summer and move on. The biggest lesson learnt from this debacle is that Jeff Shi knows even less about football than most of us thought and finances aside, should have zero input into any future transfer activity. Fortunately, it appears we have finally learnt that lesson with Hobbs fully taking the lead.

 

[brianm]

Fabio Silva is wasting Wolves and his own time at Rangers..
They won't even buy him for £5 million according to this report..

Rangers: Fabio Silva permanent Wolves transfer mooted at Ibrox

Four Lads have reacted to the latest Rangers development as permanent a Fabio Silva transfer has been mooted at Ibrox.

www.ibroxnews.com

Yeah, they have no money. The point is he looks good against Benfica and then someone from France or Germany decided to take a punt on his potential at a price around book.

 

[Perton Wolf]

But what are those rankings based on is what i would like to know? Year on year prem clubs sign Portuguese players and they very often shine in the prem. Year on year three clubs win promotion from the championship and nore often than not they are terrible. But the championship is apparently better than the Portuguese league. Those rankings are a farce.

Simplistic way of looking at it. The top brass in Portugal are obviously very good, but go outside of the top few clubs and the dropoff is huge, both in terms of club size, resources and therefore, quality of players.

Champ is a better league when taken in its entirety.

 

[Timberwolf]

I wouldn’t blame him. It’s guaranteed European football every season and most likely Champions League next season

But, Rangers only play against farmers and part-time posties…!
He went to Anderlecht, scored. Went to PSV, scored and even held his nerve to score the last penalty in a shootout and won them the Dutch Cup. Can you even imagine that pressure???
After that, nearly everyone wanted Fabio to go to a league where he had to be tougher than in the average European League. Well, the Scottish Premier may lack quality but as far as not being able to hide, it’s unforgiving. Yet now he’s there and scoring AND scoring in the Europa League, it’s ****. Had Nathan Fraser got a loan to Rangers or Celtic, you’d all bar a few keyboard warriors, be saying it’s a good move.
What this boils down to and the only reason I can fathom, is the high transfer fee and now his wages. So, jealousy, envy and resentment. Its pathetic.
If we had any other 21 year old out on loan getting the numbers he’s getting, we’d be ****ing our pants over their potential.
Ffs, he’s won more silverware than we have…

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Ffs, he’s won more silverware than we have…

Ouch.

 

[Bradstonian]

If Rangers go on to take the title from Celtic, and perhaps win a cup too, with major contributions from Fabio, his stock will certainly be high - and who knows, maybe that will enable him to kick-on and start showing more of the potential we bought him for. Too early to "write him off".

 

[xbomber]

Here's a big issue with Silva, and it's nothing to do with Silva, in fact it's nothing to do with anything, but people just love a pile on and Dan Emery, the writer of this nonsense, should be ashamed

Nuno signing who earns more than Neto has seen his value plummet at Wolves

The big-money Old Gold addition was sent out on loan by the club in January.

www.footballfancast.com

I started reading that 'article' earlier but wanted to end my life after about 5 minutes of reading smelly guff so thought I'd better stop.

I think I could insert a pencil in my jap's eye and swing it against the keys of my keyboard for an hour and write something better.

 

[brianm]

But, Rangers only play against farmers and part-time posties…!
He went to Anderlecht, scored. Went to PSV, scored and even held his nerve to score the last penalty in a shootout and won them the Dutch Cup. Can you even imagine that pressure???
After that, nearly everyone wanted Fabio to go to a league where he had to be tougher than in the average European League. Well, the Scottish Premier may lack quality but as far as not being able to hide, it’s unforgiving. Yet now he’s there and scoring AND scoring in the Europa League, it’s ****. Had Nathan Fraser got a loan to Rangers or Celtic, you’d all bar a few keyboard warriors, be saying it’s a good move.
What this boils down to and the only reason I can fathom, is the high transfer fee and now his wages. So, jealousy, envy and resentment. Its pathetic.
If we had any other 21 year old out on loan getting the numbers he’s getting, we’d be ****ing our pants over their potential.
Ffs, he’s won more silverware than we have…

Yes, people are just jealous of Fabio. That's why they are so frustrated with his performances for the team.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Yes, people are just jealous of Fabio. That's why they are so frustrated with his performances for the team.

I'm ****ing jealous of his hair!

 

[Thank you Sir Jack]

I think I could insert a pencil in my jap's eye and swing it against the keys of my keyboard for an hour and write something better.

I never understood A.I. until now.

 

[kinyo298]

If Rangers go on to take the title from Celtic, and perhaps win a cup too, with major contributions from Fabio, his stock will certainly be high - and who knows, maybe that will enable him to kick-on and start showing more of the potential we bought him for. Too early to "write him off".

Many others and myself wrote him off many moons ago.Hopeless, and ive never seen any improvement.

 

[Bryce]

Done a little digging and asking around to try and finally banish the nonsense rumours regarding Fabio's wages. Internet has him ranging from £40k to nearly £100k per week, and people (not necessarily Wolves fans) repeatedly use the high end wage figures to criticise him.

Unverified, but I believe the contract he signed when he joined was as follows:

Basic weekly wage £37k
Wage if he makes an appearance in that week £42k
Wage if he scores in that week £47k

He subsequently received a £3k per week increase to his basic, bringing that to £40k but I don't know what changed, if anything, with the bonus payments. Also unsure how those bonus payments work when he is out on loan.

Didn’t trouble the scoring bonus too much for us .

I jest. I wish him well but I just can’t see the areas of his game improving sufficiently to be a starter for our style of play . We were pilloried gor not being all over Eduard at Celtic when he went to palace. He looked prime Ronaldo at times scoring for fun in Scotland. Apart from scoring against us he has done nought too justify such hype . He may be a different type of player to Fabio granted, but he looks very ordinary in the premier league. That’s where I see Fabio too

 

[Timberwolf]

Yes, people are just jealous of Fabio. That's why they are so frustrated with his performances for the team.

I think you’re convoluting frustration, which I feel about his performances, and the bile, disrespect and nastiness that’s stinking out this thread.
However, you obviously think you’re quite clever, what with your intellectually superior sarcasm so I’ll let you have your win.
…

MODs are no fun!

 

[Pseudonym]

Simplistic way of looking at it. The top brass in Portugal are obviously very good, but go outside of the top few clubs and the dropoff is huge, both in terms of club size, resources and therefore, quality of players.

Champ is a better league when taken in its entirety.

Precisely.

Portugal has slightly more depth than the duopoly of Scottish football but only by 2-3 more teams. The rest is League 1 sort of stuff

 

[maws]

To put it into context Rangers record signing is only £12’m, and that was 23 years ago! We may get an £8m offer if we get very very lucky

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

I dont know if this has been posted before now but before chucking away a 35+million investment the club should take this seriously. So far Fabio is being judged on what he is not and not on what he could be. The lad is still only very young and we have had too many players leave and find that it comes back to bite us. I wish the club would take a fresh approach starting with looking at the below link.

Ex-coach of Fabio Silva explains side of Wolves flop that O’Neil is yet to see

Does he have a future at Molineux?

www.molineux.news

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

I dont know if this has been posted before now but before chucking away a 35+million investment the club should take this seriously. So far Fabio is being judged on what he is not and not on what he could be. The lad is still only very young and we have had too many players leave and find that it comes back to bite us. I wish the club would take a fresh approach starting with looking at the below link.

Ex-coach of Fabio Silva explains side of Wolves flop that O’Neil is yet to see

Does he have a future at Molineux?

www.molineux.news

Perhaps we should have a vote.

 

[Mugwump]

I think his time here is just at its end. There are a section of fans who wont give him any leeway because of the fee and will always be on his back. Too much water under the bridge between him and us, its just not going to work sadly. We need to sell him.

 

[Bradstonian]

Many others and myself wrote him off many moons ago.Hopeless, and ive never seen any improvement.

I'm sure there have been many examples of players improving as they've got older.

 

[brianm]

I think his time here is just at its end. There are a section of fans who wont give him any leeway because of the fee and will always be on his back. Too much water under the bridge between him and us, its just not going to work sadly. We need to sell him.

Wolves fans would be universally thrilled if Silva came back from this loan and looked like a useful Premier League player.

The questions are what that would look like iif it did happen and will it happen.

I think questions about the fans' backing etc are beside the point.

One performance in a wolves shirt where fans say "you know, I think Silva looked pretty good there" would swing the tide.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I think his time here is just at its end. There are a section of fans who wont give him any leeway because of the fee and will always be on his back. Too much water under the bridge between him and us, its just not going to work sadly. We need to sell him.

I'd say that Wolves fans overwhelmingly think he'll never be good enough, but if he did come back and do well we'd be overwhelmingly behind him and shortly after overwhelming numbers would say they never doubted him and knew he'd come good all along. (See GON).

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

Perhaps we should have a vote.

Maybe we should have a vote on whether we should have a vote.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I'd say that Wolves fans overwhelmingly think he'll never be good enough, but if he did come back and do well we'd be overwhelmingly behind him and shortly after overwhelming numbers would say they never doubted him and knew he'd come good all along. (See GON).

What's even worse is that if he goes elsewhere, does well then successfully comes back to the PL those same folk who want him binned off now will moan that he was never given a proper chance....

 

[Mugwump]

Wolves fans would be universally thrilled if Silva came back from this loan and looked like a useful Premier League player.

The questions are what that would look like iif it did happen and will it happen.

I think questions about the fans' backing etc are beside the point.

One performance in a wolves shirt where fans say "you know, I think Silva looked pretty good there" would swing the tide.

I'd say that Wolves fans overwhelmingly think he'll never be good enough, but if he did come back and do well we'd be overwhelmingly behind him and shortly after overwhelming numbers would say they never doubted him and knew he'd come good all along. (See GON).

I personally dont think he has ever got the full backing from the fans, and thats mainly because of the fee. Some fans cant get past he cost 35 million and didnt hit the ground running as an 18 year old.

For me, i dont think he's ever played in a confident, well performing side. Even this season, he was either playing while we were still struggling, or he was coming on out of position like in the Citeh game.

As i said before though, i think he has burned his bridges in many ways ( not sure if thats the right way to put it ). I dont think GON wants to use him, and i think he just needs a fresh start away from Wolves and the big fee he cost.

 

[CelebrityWolf]

But, Rangers only play against farmers and part-time posties…!
He went to Anderlecht, scored. Went to PSV, scored and even held his nerve to score the last penalty in a shootout and won them the Dutch Cup. Can you even imagine that pressure???
After that, nearly everyone wanted Fabio to go to a league where he had to be tougher than in the average European League. Well, the Scottish Premier may lack quality but as far as not being able to hide, it’s unforgiving. Yet now he’s there and scoring AND scoring in the Europa League, it’s ****. Had Nathan Fraser got a loan to Rangers or Celtic, you’d all bar a few keyboard warriors, be saying it’s a good move.
What this boils down to and the only reason I can fathom, is the high transfer fee and now his wages. So, jealousy, envy and resentment. Its pathetic.
If we had any other 21 year old out on loan getting the numbers he’s getting, we’d be ****ing our pants over their potential.
Ffs, he’s won more silverware than we have…

A load of nonsense.

What it boils down to is that his signing stalled our progress at a critical time in our history, just as we were becoming established as a top 7-8 side, we suddenly went for this ridiculous signing and it cost us dear and we are still recovering now.

It is completely irrelevant at this stage whether he comes good or not, the damage has already been done.

 

[Monketron]

He was breaking records in youth football and people expected him to be the next huge talent out of Portugal. Wolves going for him was a good move, but we massively overpaid given there's no guarantees that a player will continue to improve through the age groups. Those years from 16-21 some players just seem to stall while others do the opposite and turn out better than they looked at youth level. No club (to my knowledge) has really worked out the formula yet for telling which side a player will fall until it happens.

Wolves took a punt and it failed. If you're a rich club you can take the risk and eat the costs if it doesn't work out, knowing the one player who does come good will more than make up for it (see Man City and Chelsea buying up every decent youth prospect), Wolves just didn't have the income to gamble like that.

Didn't help that we had to use him after Raul's injury when he clearly wasn't anywhere near ready.

 

[Timberwolf]

A load of nonsense.

What it boils down to is that his signing stalled our progress at a critical time in our history, just as we were becoming established as a top 7-8 side, we suddenly went for this ridiculous signing and it cost us dear and we are still recovering now.

It is completely irrelevant at this stage whether he comes good or not, the damage has already been done.

Blaming a player for management decisions. Okay then…shall I put you down in the ‘resentment’ column?

 

[xbomber]

None of you seem to grasp the actual issue here and it's one of inaccurate nominative determinism.

If his name was "Averageio Silva", Ok-ish Silva" or even "Fabio Bronze", people would have no issue would they?

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Blaming a player for management decisions. Okay then…shall I put you down in the ‘resentment’ column?

Put me down where you want, it doesn't change the fact Fabio's signing was and always will have been an absolute disaster.

 

[brianm]

Put me down where you want, it doesn't change the fact Fabio's signing was and always will have been an absolute disaster.

Why won't you just admit you resent how much money Fabio is making????????????????

 

[bod101]

OK this going down a pointless path stick to the football aspect please

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Why won't you just admit you resent how much money Fabio is making????????????????

I honestly couldn't care less what Fabio makes. I barely work any more in my late 40s, money isn't a driving factor for me.

 

[inaglasshouse]

I honestly couldn't care less what Fabio makes. I barely work any more in my late 40s, money isn't a driving factor for me any more.

thanks for letting us know

 

[CelebrityWolf]

thanks for letting us know

Oops, sounds like money envy to me

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

Again, I don’t know why this negative attitude toward Fabio is warranted. It’s not like he has a terrible attitude and has a poor work ethic. In other words, he’s no Guedes. I’m rooting for him to regain his confidence and keep improving—whether or not he is in Gary’s current plans. His success on loan will either help him make the playing rotation next year or it will help us with a small profit if we move him on. Win, win.

As far as the club goes, it is turning out to be a mistake to bring in Fabio for that price…gamble backfired. But, it’s all hindsight BS as acquiring (young) players is not an exact science. And let’s not exaggerate—it wasn’t a disaster—poor, maybe, but not disastrous.

Football is littered with poor transfers and failed prodigies. Anyway, come on Fabio! Keep knocking them in!

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Fabio is a huge confidence player same as Podence, Guedes when they are up against it you can tell. Which is why we should do more to support players. Myself included

It can be frustrating sometimes but we must look at the bigger picture and players welfare more so these days.

It feels like the ship has sailed for them in the old gold but wish them every bit of luck with the next move. Sad really because they are all capable on their day.