European Qualification?

[kidder_wolf_II]

Five Champions League places? Premier League misses out after Bundesliga teams secure extra spot for 2024/25

Dortmund beat Paris Saint-Germain to grab an extra Champions League qualifying spot for the Bundesliga; Italy have also secured a bonus spot in next seasons expanded competition; only the top four in the Premier League this season will qualify for next seasons edition

www.skysports.com

This says that 8th gets Europa Conference League if we get the 5th Champions League spot.

Brilliant news.

Now for the curvy ball what if Chelsea finish 8th but reject the Conference place. Will it go to 9th lol

 

[AndyY]

Of course i would like another european run of any sort but I just dont see qualifying happening. Results/ performances like Brentford will continue to happen, particularly with our small squad. I would also like a really good cup run but the same doubts apply.
TBH, I am just delighted with recent performances, hope we dont fizzle away but will be delighted if we finish 12th, compared to where many of us, me included, thought we would be.
Sorry!

 

[Minimalist]

I think 8th is possible, just about. But it is going to depend on the form of teams around us.
Realistically you’d have to expect Chelsea, Brighton and probably Newcastle to stay above us, maybe we could overtake West Ham.

 

[Skrilla]

I think 8th is possible, just about. But it is going to depend on the form of teams around us.
Realistically you’d have to expect Chelsea, Brighton and probably Newcastle to stay above us, maybe we could overtake West Ham.

Brighton going on a deep European run could derail them a bit. Newcastle I’d certainly be surprised if we finished above them as they have players return from injury and no more Europe to contend with. West Ham and Chelsea we have a decent chance of overtaking.

8th in 22/23 - 60pts
8th in 21/22 - 52pts
8th in 20/21 - 61pts
8th in 19/20 - 56pts
8th in 18/19 - 54pts

Averages out to 56.6 points, call it 57 points. That would require 22 points from our last 13 games, 1.7 points a game. 6 wins and a few draws.

We have five very winnable home games - Sheffield United, Fulham, Bournemouth, Luton and Palace. You can probably throw West Ham in there too if they continue their slide.

Our home form will need to be exceptional to have any chance of making 8th, starting with Sunday of course.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

I think 8th is possible, just about. But it is going to depend on the form of teams around us.
Realistically you’d have to expect Chelsea, Brighton and probably Newcastle to stay above us, maybe we could overtake West Ham.

We are 3 points away from 7th so i think 7th is possible. Brighton and Newcastle were brilliant at the start of the season, not sure either are particularly formidable right now.

 

[Monk]

Let's just win the cup - simples

 

[Chisels_n_ommers]

Let's just win the cup - simples

Totally agree. That's our easiest route.

Our last 6 games include..Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, who will be all guns blazing by the looks of it, for obv reasons plus

We also play Forest and Luton, who might well be fighting for their lives.

Not many on the beach opponents there for us to play.

 

[Justawolf]

Right now at the business end of the season Utd are ****, Newcastle are ****, Brighton are ****, west ham are ****. GON has the boys playing champagne football (ignore the blip that was Brentford). Underestimate us at your peril. Europe here we come. I believe.

 

[Glow69]

Home form is key

 

[Wellington Wolf]

Win tomorrow. Liverpool win the Cup. We are in the European positions at 6pm. With all playing the same games. (I think!)

 

[WW1963]

Let's just win the cup - simples

I'd take a terrible slide down to 16th if it meant winning the FA Cup. I've seen us win the League Cup at Wembley - which is a memory that I'll always cherish - but I still see the FA Cup as the pinnacle domestic competition it was in the 70s and 80s.

 

[FJRWolf]

While I'm still a bit pessimistic about our chances of Europe, it's brilliant to be in the conversation.
Win tomorrow and let's see how we get on.

 

[AndyY]

Win tomorrow and we have 38 points and almost definitely safe from relegation! Anything else is a bonus.

 

[JonahWolf]

Suspect England will finish top two in that coefficient with clubs likely to go deep in all three comps.

Liverpool and Citeh winning them isn’t exactly unlikely. Which would help. Ugh.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Liverpool and Citeh winning them isn’t exactly unlikely. Which would help. Ugh.

And Villa too. Triple ugh.

 

[Nige]

Not A Chance. 3 of the last 4 games against the top 3. We already know the result of those thanks to the corrupt PL and their officials. O'Neil has done a good job and I eat Humble pie too because i thought we would go down with the appointment. However Europe NO
Maybe next year IF we recruit well and bolster the squad. Which means we would have to sell Neto and others

 

[wolvesaywe]

Not A Chance. 3 of the last 4 games against the top 3. We already know the result of those thanks to the corrupt PL and their officials. O'Neil has done a good job and I eat Humble pie too because i thought we would go down with the appointment. However Europe NO
Maybe next year IF we recruit well and bolster the squad. Which means we would have to sell Neto and others

I'd love to know what you base your "no chance" argument on given our record against top teams is outstanding and only the current top 6 are above us in the last 12 games form table

And that's without even considering yesterday's favourable results

I'd say there's a hell of a good chance

 

[lets all have a disco]

Totally agree. That's our easiest route.

Our last 6 games include..Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, who will be all guns blazing by the looks of it, for obv reasons plus

We also play Forest and Luton, who might well be fighting for their lives.

Not many on the beach opponents there for us to play.

We may not have to beat Liverpool or City in those league games to get Europe.......but to WIN the fa cup we will probably have to beat at least one of those teams .

Winning the fa cup is a long way off at the minute....beat Sheffield utd today Europe Vis the league is much more likely....we done Europe via the league a few seasons ago.....it's been 60 odd years since we win the cup.....

 

[arctic rime]

Of course we can do it , come on !

 

[Willywolf]

I'd love to know what you base your "no chance" argument on given our record against top teams is outstanding and only the current top 6 are above us in the last 12 games form table

And that's without even considering yesterday's favourable results

I'd say there's a hell of a good chance

Agreed! Our form against those at the top suggests it is not a foregone conclusion that we lose. If Liverpool need to beat us on the final day to win the premier league, that puts more pressure on them than us, and that in itself gives us a good chance of taking something from that game.

Whilst I don’t think we are likely to burst into the European spots, for people to be talking about it shows what a brilliant season it has been to this point and shows what an inspired (and somewhat brave) appointment GON has been.

Whatever happens, I think as there is minimal risk of relegation (completely against the odds, pundits’views, supporters’ expectations) we are in a great position to play without fear or pressure and can enjoy trying to finish as high up the table as possible.

 

[Minimalist]

We may not have to beat Liverpool or City in those league games to get Europe.......but to WIN the fa cup we will probably have to beat at least one of those teams .

Winning the fa cup is a long way off at the minute....beat Sheffield utd today Europe Vis the league is much more likely....we done Europe via the league a few seasons ago.....it's been 60 odd years since we win the cup.....

I do generally agree with this.
Though looking at our results this season you could conclude we are as likely to beat a top team in a cup final as we are to beat the bottom team at home in a league match!

 

[Fenrir_]

Brilliant news.

Now for the curvy ball what if Chelsea finish 8th but reject the Conference place. Will it go to 9th lol

Should do, the same way Milan's spot went to Torino (who finished outside normal qualification places) when they reported themselves for FFP

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Two huge games today.
Very important that Wolves and Liverpool win!

 

[lets all have a disco]

I do generally agree with this.
Though looking at our results this season you could conclude we are as likely to beat a top team in a cup final as we are to beat the bottom team at home in a league match!

Yes anything is possible.....both scenarios.....but realistically we have finished 7th twice in 2 recent season......whereas we haven't even got to a final in the fa cup for 60 odd years ...it's gonna be at least 2 months before we have a realistic chance at winning the cup whereas a win today puts us probably only having to get better result than a couple of teams for 7th ...

The big teams win the cups generally....the likes of us , Brighton, villa , Newcastle, west ham etc realistically will only get Europe by league position not by winning something....7th at this stage is possible,..winning the fa cup at this stage is still a mamouth task ...

 

[Monketron]

I want us to qualify but it would totally ruin next season if we did. This squad would explode if we had to play 2 games a week regularly and they'd never risk getting a big expensive squad on multi-year contracts for what could potentially only be 1 season of European football.

So if we did qualify for Europe I'd expect the next season to be a bit of a **** show when it came to injuries / results, especially either side of European games. We got away with it under Nuno because we played a very defensive low-energy style and for that season (especially in first halves if I remember correctly).

 

[lets all have a disco]

I want us to qualify but it would totally ruin next season if we did. This squad would explode if we had to play 2 games a week regularly and they'd never risk getting a big expensive squad on multi-year contracts for what could potentially only be 1 season of European football.

So if we did qualify for Europe I'd expect the next season to be a bit of a **** show when it came to injuries / results, especially either side of European games. We got away with it under Nuno because we played a very defensive low-energy style and for that season (especially in first halves if I remember correctly).

What's the point in going if people don't wanna qualify for Europe.....we ain't going to get champions league are we.....the memories of travelling round Europe watching wolves will live with me forever....I want more...... can't see the point going if people don't want 7th and conference league..... realistically we could win the conference league..

 

[colincameron]

I’ve scanned through that link twice now and can’t see anywhere that says 8th gets a European place if we manage to get an extra CL spot.

Five Champions League places? Premier League misses out after Bundesliga teams secure extra spot for 2024/25

Dortmund beat Paris Saint-Germain to grab an extra Champions League qualifying spot for the Bundesliga; Italy have also secured a bonus spot in next seasons expanded competition; only the top four in the Premier League this season will qualify for next seasons edition

www.skysports.com

Bottom of article reads:

If England receive five CL places, does the ECL spot go down to eighth?​

Yes, it does - provided the domestic cups are won by those finishing inside the top seven as seen last season, with Manchester United winning the Carabao Cup and Manchester City winning the FA Cup.

Based on last season, eighth-placed Tottenham would have qualified for the Europa Conference League and Aston Villa would have been promoted to the Europa League.

 

[colincameron]

Opta apparently suggests England has an 81% chance of claiming the additional spot at the moment- Arsenal losing didn't help! Definitely need to be cheering on all the English sides in Europe this season that's for sure!

 

[SuziQ]

Into 8th and only 1 point behind Brighton in 7th now.

Europe is looking like it's a distinct possibility!

 

[wolvesaywe]

Into 8th and only 1 point behind Brighton in 7th now.

Europe is looking like it's a distinct possibility!

It's been a distinct possibility for weeks but we have a few posters who love to **** all over our chips

 

[Scallywolf]

GON is keeping his feet firmly on the ground when qualifying for Europe was mentioned to him after todays game.

He admitted we have no chance of qualifying if we play like we did in the second half and he’s spot on.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Tuned on the LC final to see Liverpool score. Does it help the Euro slots if Liverpool win today?

 

[lets all have a disco]

Tuned on the LC final to see Liverpool score. Does it help the Euro slots if Liverpool win today?

Yes.....the cup.places go to league if a top 5 in the league win it...

 

[Kashmire Hawker]

And Liverpool win the League Cup!

Means officially at the moment:

- Champions League: Top 4
- Europa League: 5th and FA Cup
- Conference League: 6th place, if Liverpool don’t finish out of top 5, which is very unlikely.

Obs could change if England get the extra Champions League spot, through being one of the two best performing nations in Club comps.

It is game well and truly on and the door is opening nicely for The Old Gold and Black!

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Not A Chance. 3 of the last 4 games against the top 3. We already know the result of those thanks to the corrupt PL and their officials. O'Neil has done a good job and I eat Humble pie too because i thought we would go down with the appointment. However Europe NO
Maybe next year IF we recruit well and bolster the squad. Which means we would have to sell Neto and others

I forgot no one else has to play the top three!

I agree we'll almost definitely need points on the board before the final run in...

But the likes of Brighton, Newcastle, West Ham and Chelsea may have to play catch up unless they've already had points off those top teams.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Understatement to say how massive march is for us

Brighton in the cup , European places rivals in Newcastle

Then two home games against Bournemouth and fulham

Massive march we should be aiming for another 6 points before international break and getting cunha back for villa

Let's hope for more wins three home games next 4 come on !!!

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Into 8th and only 1 point behind Brighton in 7th now.

Europe is looking like it's a distinct possibility!

Surely that's nonsense. Just read the first couple of pages on this thread. The "experts" had already thrown in the towel!

 

[Scallywolf]

Yes.....the cup.places go to league if a top 5 in the league win it...

?????

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

GON is keeping his feet firmly on the ground when qualifying for Europe was mentioned to him after todays game.

He admitted we have no chance of qualifying if we play like we did in the second half and he’s spot on.

If we play like that for the remainder of the season and are rewarded with (3) that amount of points after every game, we'll stand a very good chance.

 

[lets all have a disco]

?????

Just read it back, sounds confusing.....meant it's top 5 in league get Europe plus the cups.....if a top 5 team win cup it then goes to league....hence it nw top 6 in league in Europe....