Wolves Next Manager

[Royal wolf]

Poor example re JL and a friendly tap around with Luton Town.
I ask the question, was the O.T. display influenced by the departing JL or the present incumbent ?

But then JLo had nothing to do with the Liverpool first half performance which was as good if not better than the United one

 

[WickedWolfie]

Shaun Derry caretaker? lol

That is my fear.

 

[Golden Arrow]

But then JLo had nothing to do with the Liverpool first half performance which was as good if not better than the United one

I'd say that they were on par, but I take your point.

It does beg the question, what's happened post first half Liverpool as we seem to have regressed imo.

 

[stevev53]

Liam Keen saying Rob Edwards outcoached GoN in the first half.

Oh and Keen knows all about the game does he . Quite frankly i couldn’t give a s****te what Keen thinks . As we all know from the Liverpool game the match lasts 90 mins not 45 . On Keens basis GON outcoached 1 of the best managers in the game lol

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

There are some on here who think GON deserves more time, the fixtures have been difficult, VAR has gone against us and that's all fair enough. I think it's almost inevitable we'll be in the bottom 5 come, say, February. If GON is still here then at what stage do you look for another manager?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

There are some on here who think GON deserves more time, the fixtures have been difficult, VAR has gone against us and that's all fair enough. I think it's almost inevitable we'll be in the bottom 5 come, say, February. If GON is still here then at what stage do you look for another manager?

If we are 5th from bottom come February then we absolutely don’t pull the trigger on O’Neil, nor should we

 

[Wolvessince63]

Former Wolverhampton Wanderers head coach Julen Lopetegui was in attendance at Stamford Bridge for Chelsea’s 1-0 defeat to Aston Villa, Birmingham World can exclusively reveal.


The Spaniard, who has recently been said to be holding out for a return to Premier League management as soon as possible, was spotted both entering and leaving a hospitality suite.


Lopetegui watched on as Chelsea lost for a third time in the English top tier this season and Wolves’ rivals, Villa, battled against 10 men to secure their fourth victory.

 

[The Clock]

There are some on here who think GON deserves more time, the fixtures have been difficult, VAR has gone against us and that's all fair enough. I think it's almost inevitable we'll be in the bottom 5 come, say, February. If GON is still here then at what stage do you look for another manager?

Tbh you seem to want a new manager every week.
Who , realistically, would you be happy with?

 

[wolfslair]

They may have done, but they've made some quality purchases along the way to suit the coaches style of play (square pegs in square holes).
Add to that, Arteta has a good set of coaches and backroom staff around him which I would suggest are better than what we have right now.

There are levels of difference in the footballing education, careers, playing abilities and also mentors between arteta and GO.

To compare both is laughable as they are galaxies apart…..

One was raised in the Barca academy under some of the best age group coaches, then was developed and grown at arsenal under some of the best midfielders and manager the league has seen, was part of one of the best international sides ever, then when he finished he was being groomed to be the heir to pep and workingday in and day out with the world class city first team. City and pep were furious he was approached and made it difficult for arsenal to get Arteta.

The other is a championship level journeyman who has played under Harry redknapp as his highest profile manager…….. and has only a few years coaching the kids at liverpool….. then got a job at Bournemouth and within 2 years is their manager because their current one walked…….

You cannot compare the two and to do so is like comparing a Robin reliant to an F1 or super car…..

There are levels and GO isn’t even close to Arteta

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

There are some on here who think GON deserves more time, the fixtures have been difficult, VAR has gone against us and that's all fair enough. I think it's almost inevitable we'll be in the bottom 5 come, say, February. If GON is still here then at what stage do you look for another manager?

As much as I am in favour of Wolves finding a far superior manager to O’Neil ASAP, if we’re 5th bottom in Feb and he’s still in charge I think we’d be sticking with him.

Sad thing is, I just can’t see us being outside the bottom 3 under O’Neil again, after our presumed defeats to City and Villa.

 

[Stourport wolf]

Former Wolverhampton Wanderers head coach Julen Lopetegui was in attendance at Stamford Bridge for Chelsea’s 1-0 defeat to Aston Villa, Birmingham World can exclusively reveal.


The Spaniard, who has recently been said to be holding out for a return to Premier League management as soon as possible, was spotted both entering and leaving a hospitality suite.


Lopetegui watched on as Chelsea lost for a third time in the English top tier this season and Wolves’ rivals, Villa, battled against 10 men to secure their fourth victory.

Just waiting for 316, to buy his new Chelsea shirt. Lol.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Just waiting for 316, to buy his new Chelsea shirt. Lol.

Oi, don't leave me out!
You need to get on their forum quick and warn them what a terrible mistake it would be. Do they know he'll just be after a big salary and then make them look bad so he gets sacked and paid off? Will they notice the difference if he does?

 

[Stourport wolf]

Oi, don't leave me out!
You need to get on their forum quick and warn them what a terrible mistake it would be. Do they know he'll just be after a big salary and then make them look bad so he gets sacked and paid off? Will they notice the difference if he does?

I wish Chelsea the very worst.

 

[groundhogwolf]

But then JLo had nothing to do with the Liverpool first half performance which was as good if not better than the United one

What use is half a performance, unless its the second half.

 

[wwbug]

But then JLo had nothing to do with the Liverpool first half performance which was as good if not better than the United one

One swallow …….
For me you reserve your best performances for the winnable games. Everton , Palace and Luton were our worst performances.

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

Why oh why didn’t we just give lopetegui what he wanted .

FFS

With due respect I think that has been discussed enough to know.
Briefly JLo wanted money and Fosun didn't wat to give it to him.

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

One swallow …….
For me yiu reserve your best performances for the winnable games. Everton , Palace and Luton were our worst performances.

Its not just under GON. For the last number of seasons we have come out second best to lowly teams.

 

[Cookyssweetleftfoot]

If we are 5th from bottom come February then we absolutely don’t pull the trigger on O’Neil, nor should we

That surely depends on what has gone before?
If we have lost 6 on the bounce to drop into the bottom 5 then it’s very different. Also if 5th from bottom is only above the bottom three by a point or two then it is way too precarious to blindly support the man in charge.
If however we have seen an upturn in form and sit relatively comfortably above the bottom 3 then fair enough.
That said it would be mad to wait until February after the transfer window has shut before re-evaluating his position.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

With due respect I think that has been discussed enough to know.
Briefly JLo wanted money and Fosun didn't want to give it to him.

Bloody hell, you could have saved me a lot of time if you'd posted that 6 weeks ago. Talk about cutting to the chase!

 

[Royal wolf]

I'd say that they were on par, but I take your point.

It does beg the question, what's happened post first half Liverpool as we seem to have regressed imo.

Could be a bad day at the office, every team
Has them. Let’s see how we perform against villa

 

[Fifty Niner]

Seven pages on our next manager with a new a manager still in post and unlikely to be leaving any time soon.

 

[VancouverWolf]

I wish Chelsea the very worst.

Me too. Team I dislike the most…by far. ( Don’t know why I hate them but am not going to let a good hate go to waste ).

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Could be a bad day at the office, every team
Has them. Let’s see how we perform against villa

It's another worry to add to the list that Villa looks the most winnable of our next 4 home games, and let's face it, we won't be favourites. By the time Burnley turn up the atmosphere could be quite fraught.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Seven pages on our next manager with a new a manager still in post and unlikely to be leaving any time

Big Sam you say he’s waiting for his December phone call

 

[Axle]

At the moment l’d rather have Gary Poundland than Gary O’Neil

 

[maws]

Wolves have a Manager, and he is in the first couple of months of a three year contract, so I cannot see O’Neil being sacked anytime soon. And why would the club give a manager a three year contract only to get itchy feet after a few games.

De Boer lasted less time at Palace!

 

[StaffordWolf]

At the moment l’d rather have Gary Poundland than Gary O’Neil

I'd rather have Gary Glitter.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

I'd rather have Gary Glitter.

Would the kit man have a pair of adidas predators for him?

 

[loppers86]

Would you rather we had another conservative type who ground out results?

Absolutely . Ground out results are far better than the hammerings to come when the heads go down and everyone starts angling for a a move.

 

[Dingle Chris]

Mad Mick.

 

[Mugwump]

There are good managers out there if we are prepared to show a bit of positivity.

 

[Corporate Wolf]

Hobbs has a great deal of his own credibility riding on GONs appointment and success (?) me thinks.

If Wolves persist with him then I suspect it will be Hobbs that will be fighting his corner. Ultimately, though we know if the Fosun get jittery then Hobbs opinion won’t amount to much.

 

[fleck1]

There are levels of difference in the footballing education, careers, playing abilities and also mentors between arteta and GO.

To compare both is laughable as they are galaxies apart…..

One was raised in the Barca academy under some of the best age group coaches, then was developed and grown at arsenal under some of the best midfielders and manager the league has seen, was part of one of the best international sides ever, then when he finished he was being groomed to be the heir to pep and workingday in and day out with the world class city first team. City and pep were furious he was approached and made it difficult for arsenal to get Arteta.

The other is a championship level journeyman who has played under Harry redknapp as his highest profile manager…….. and has only a few years coaching the kids at liverpool….. then got a job at Bournemouth and within 2 years is their manager because their current one walked…….

You cannot compare the two and to do so is like comparing a Robin reliant to an F1 or super car…..

There are levels and GO isn’t even close to Arteta

Some of the best coaches and managers never played the game at any kind of level and made their own way in the game, watched & learned from afar and made their own way in the game. Not saying GON is going to become some kind of managerial genius in the future but saying he hasn't come through X's academy or spent time under this manager isn't really relevant to where his managerial career goes or how he progresses. Gary Neville came through the Man Utd system and spent his career under Sir Alex, I don't want him as manager either. Nagelsmann stopped playing at 20 and became a scout and studied sport science but we'd take a look at him, its a lazy argument when GON played over 200 premier league games.

 

[wolfslair]

Some of the best coaches and managers never played the game at any kind of level and made their own way in the game, watched & learned from afar and made their own way in the game. Not saying GON is going to become some kind of managerial genius in the future but saying he hasn't come through X's academy or spent time under this manager isn't really relevant to where his managerial career goes or how he progresses. Gary Neville came through the Man Utd system and spent his career under Sir Alex, I don't want him as manager either. Nagelsmann stopped playing at 20 and became a scout and studied sport science but we'd take a look at him, its a lazy argument when GON played over 200 premier league games.

The OP compared GO and Arteta.

So I replied based on facts of both their playing, development and coaching tracks records and people they worked under and mentored by.

It wasn’t a generic wide sweeping post on my part, as I am fully aware and the best manager I worked at when I was in football joked he didn’t even have two good feet let alone one…..

Simply replied with reasons they couldn’t compare arteta to GO

 

[DanishWolf]

Just because Nathan Jones failed it doesn't mean GON will.

Arteta hasn't failed at Arsenal for example.

True..
However GON needs 11 points from his next 9 games to have a even the same record that got Jones the sack after 15 games and there's good chance he wouldn't even get that many.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Just because Nathan Jones failed it doesn't mean GON will.

Arteta hasn't failed at Arsenal for example.

Comparing GON to Arteta? Whatever next!

Based on current results the GON/Jones comparison is deeply insulting to Nathan.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Far too early to be talking about getting a new manager although the club should have a plan in place incase GON fails after being given the majority of the season to make the job his own.

Of managers out there a steady pair of hands like Big Sam would be OK to get us through to the end of the season if GON does fall on his sword later on in the season.

Just because Fat Sam failed with your lot....

 

[WickedWolfie]

I'd honestly get Nuno back for 2-3 years and appoint/groom a young number 2 to take over from him the way Liverpool used to develop in house coaches/ex players.

That assumes that Nuno wants anything whatsoever to do with Pinnochio. Remember who both his and JL's agent is - he'll know exactly what went on!

 

[WickedWolfie]

I agree with that but Sam is far from a steady pair of hands now, he looked well out of his depth in his last two fire fighting appointments. Pardon the pun but his hunger seems to have gone.

I’d have Warnock on speed dial. Another who’s best years are gone but I think he’d love to finish in the premier league

Sam's thirst allegedly not so much though....

 

[WickedWolfie]

Hansi Flick - former Germany and B Munich.

Oliver Glasner - former Frankfurt Wolfsburg

Vitor Pereira - former Porto, Olympiacos.

Lucien Favre - former Dortmund, Nice.

Hasenhüttl - Leipzig, Soton

Marcelo Gallardo - River Plate

All out of work

None of them British which was apparently one of Hobbs' key factors....