JadeWolf
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Really sad news, your heart goes to his family and friends. Absolute tragedy.
while we all hope and prey for some good news on this tragedy, it hurts me to say I feel exactly the same. Such a lightweight plane flying like that at night, together with the Leicester tragedy where the choice to fly by helicopter rather than chauffeur driven car puts so much unnecessary risk on people's lives.I would question why anyone, never mind a £15 million footballer, would be on a tiny single prop flying over the sea at night.
It must have been tight on fuel too going that distance. Not the time or the place perhaps.
Such sad news and my thoughts go to him, the pilot, their families and all of Nantes FC and Cardiff FC.
I know. It was more the fact 1 engine and 1 pilot increases risk of disaster infinitelyIt will be a charter and possibly be piloted by someone who is not instrument rated although that's unlikely because of insurance problems.
The plane is perfectly capable of that type of flight it's repeated every day of the week.
Yes but on the other hand you are more likely to die by car than plane. But agree i dont see why such risks were taken. It just doesn't add up. Someone is negligible somewhere and they will have a very guilty conscience tonight.while we all hope and prey for some good news on this tragedy, it hurts me to say I feel exactly the same. Such a lightweight plane flying like that at night, together with the Leicester tragedy where the choice to fly by helicopter rather than chauffeur driven car puts so much unnecessary risk on people's lives.
It's all so sad, and so avoidable. Fingers crossed for good news on such a sad day.
The Cardiff website says that the plane was supplied by their ChairmanYes but on the other hand you are more likely to die by car than plane. But agree i dont see why such risks were taken. It just doesn't add up. Someone is negligible somewhere and they will have a very guilty conscience tonight.
He would have been advised, more than likelyThe Cardiff website says that the plane was supplied by their Chairman
He would have been advised, more than likely
The Chairman may be feeling very lucky
The Chairman uses the plan, no? I read it as it's the Chairmans plane?Lucky in what way?
I'm not sure what you're getting at
As l said earlier l did exactly that and posted this thread over there...I've just registered on the Cardiff forum, am awaiting clearance to post from admin.
Football is important but not as important as this is right now.
Prayers to all affected by this.... God bless.
Unless the plane blows up and said device is damaged...There are probably thousands of small craft flights made every day.....it's tragic but you can't cover everything to perfection.
An aircraft is a machine operated by a person in environmental situations that can be seriously taxing. Mechanical failure as well as environmental hazard, not to mention human error and other factors can create a disaster situation.
What I can't understand is why a beacon transmitting device can't be utilised either mechanically in an emergency situation by the pilot or by impact on crashing as a standard....something the size of a shoebox would not be too much to have on any aircraft.
The Chairman uses the plan, no? I read it as it's the Chairmans plane?
Or the Chairman uses this particularly plane a lot
Unless the plane blows up and said device is damaged...
Wouldn't have been tight on fuel. PA 46 has a range of over 1300 nautical miles. Believe it or not it's only about 260nm from Nantes to Cardiff. As long as the pilot calculated his take-off weight correctly there would be no issue with fuel.I would question why anyone, never mind a £15 million footballer, would be on a tiny single prop flying over the sea at night.
It must have been tight on fuel too going that distance. Not the time or the place perhaps.
Such sad news and my thoughts go to him, the pilot, their families and all of Nantes FC and Cardiff FC.
I may be wrong but I read it that the chairman arranged for the plane rather than actually owned it. Either way I would think he would be feeling sick to his stomach.He would have been advised, more than likely
The Chairman may be feeling very lucky
Obviously, but I'm commenting on the football aspect of this.More of a case of a massive blow to Sala's family and friends.....
I may be wrong but I read it that the chairman arranged for the plane rather than actually owned it. Either way I would think he would be feeling sick to his stomach.
It doesn't look good, what a massive blow for Cardiff
Where have you read this?They reported earlier it had 3 previous attempts at taking off before getting up in the 4th
I still maintain the choice of plane is very strangeThe dust hasn't settled yet, and I'm still rather dumbstruck.
The conclusion nears its horrible end though, the more time passes.
One must, as is our nature, maintain hope.
Nay, one must even voice it. Hope is the only thing that mitigates the sense of utter tragedy.
In the meantime I find myself also getting a bit angry.
I can't help it, and I realise it's still not yet time. But I can't not say it or it will eat at me.
Who the **** ordered the use of that plane? This was no fun trip by an aviation enthusiast who is ready to enjoy the thrills of flight, and readily accepts the dangers inherent in it.
This was someone going to his new job.
Shame.
If and when they accept you Steve pass on the condolences of the whole of Mol Mix, thanksI've just registered on the Cardiff forum, am awaiting clearance to post from admin.
Football is important but not as important as this is right now.
Prayers to all affected by this.... God bless.
I did that yesterday. Have seen at least four other Wolves fans (including Steve) on there.If and when they accept you Steve pass on the condolences of the whole of Mol Mix, thanks
The dust hasn't settled yet, and I'm still rather dumbstruck.
The conclusion nears its horrible end though, the more time passes.
One must, as is our nature, maintain hope.
Nay, one must even voice it. Hope is the only thing that mitigates the sense of utter tragedy.
In the meantime I find myself also getting a bit angry.
I can't help it, and I realise it's still not yet time. But I can't not say it or it will eat at me.
Who the **** ordered the use of that plane? This was no fun trip by an aviation enthusiast who is ready to enjoy the thrills of flight, and readily accepts the dangers inherent in it.
This was someone going to his new job.
Shame.
Surely they are prioritising option 3 because sadly 1) & 2) are basically impossible to imagine, and 4) is unfortunately what probably occurred.Guernsey Police have confirmed that the plane actually had a life raft on board, and they're conducting their search based on four possibilities, with the bold option the one they're prioritising:
1) They have landed elsewhere but not made contact.
2) They landed on water, have been picked up by a passing ship but not made contact.
3) They landed on water and made it into the life raft.
4) The aircraft broke up on contact with water, leaving them in the sea.
At least there's some hope for them with a life raft on board, especially if there's a small island near Alderney that they could have landed their life raft at.
Guernsey Police have confirmed that the plane actually had a life raft on board, and they're conducting their search based on four possibilities, with the bold option the one they're prioritising:
1) They have landed elsewhere but not made contact.
2) They landed on water, have been picked up by a passing ship but not made contact.
3) They landed on water and made it into the life raft.
4) The aircraft broke up on contact with water, leaving them in the sea.
At least there's some hope for them with a life raft on board, especially if there's a small island near Alderney that they could have landed their life raft at.