Why? Just why would you?

[northnorfolkwolf]

No, letting it go doesn't have to happen. As has been said, an attempt at education should be made for things like this, not being arrested and wasting public resources.

How do you educate a moron?

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

Someone seriously thinks a misspelled swear word equates in offensiveness with a t shirt meaning 'i think more innocent people should have died'... Words fail me.

Anyone else remember a significant portion of Molineux singing Ten German Bombers, I think at Michael Ballack? Wonder how that would go down these days.

So you are another that thinks you have a monopoly on what someone else finds offensive?

 

[Dorbelflunk]

So you are another that thinks you have a monopoly on what someone else finds offensive?

I don't need to be lectured by someone who outright says "I don't like the French".

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

How do you educate a moron?

Look at history.
Take a look at how racism has been handled.
Racism is still around but slowly but surely, society has found a way to educate and it has helped change views of how people see each other. It's not going away completely because of the prejudices that people are brought up with but it is getting better.

This example of a moron wearing a shirt aimed at dead Liverpool supporters is entirely tasteless, ignorant and disgusting but he should have been made to remove his shirt or leave the stadium rather than arrest him. I wonder what he thinks of his actions today?

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

I don't need to be lectured by someone who outright says "I don't like the French".

Well, I don't. Deal with it.
Oh... I do like Catherine Deneuve and the ferry out of the place though... so I wasn't entirely truthful.

 

[wolveslegend]

So.... should this be allowed?
View attachment 35011

it's a clothing brand, French connection, hence the spelling, nothing offensive about this .

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

it's a clothing brand, French connection, hence the spelling, nothing offensive about this .

To you. But not to me. I also didn't like the use of "Jesus wept." Seriously.

 

[SA Wolf]

How do you educate a moron?

I'll tell you over the next few days. . It's a joke.

 

[Dr Wolfenstein]

Nope. I don't like the French. Sorry if some find that offensive. And I don't like what they think is clever marketing. We all know the first word you think of when you see their tat. Try explaining it to your kids.

It's a British company founded in 1972.

 

[Wolf 82]

Just as offensive in my book.

Dcik.

 

[Mutchy]

Dcik.

I did not laugh... I must not laugh...
Bad Mod! Bad Mod!

 

[Immigration wolf]

I know a lot of people have already made the point, but that's because we're pretty ****ed off at the words "pretty much all of us" in your post. Never heard it sung by Wolves and would have never have contemplated singing it in the 70s / 80s / 90s/ 00s. In other words never. Don't know anyone else who would have contemplated it either. Maybe it has been sung in the past but not by "pretty much all of us."

Perhaps I was in a parallel universe North Bank when it was sung.

 

[Jamwolf]

In the 2018/19 season Liverpool got 97 points but it wasn't enough because Man City got 98.

 

[JOSWolf]

I genuinely despair at anyone thinking the french connection logo is on a par with what that idiot wore yesterday. Mind boggling.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

I genuinely despair at anyone thinking the french connection logo is on a par with what that idiot wore yesterday. Mind boggling.

Always interesting how this forum responds when someone offers a differing opinion. The high and mighty quick to judge how other people think. Nothing new in that I suppose.

What I have learned today is that are obviously different levels of being offended. To be offended by someone else is your own choice. Have at it.

 

[glorybox]

Shame he hadn’t encountered 97 Liverpool fans on his way to Wembley.

 

[JOSWolf]

Always interesting how this forum responds when someone offers a differing opinion. The high and mighty quick to judge how other people think. Nothing new in that I suppose.

What I have learned today is that are obviously different levels of being offended. To be offended by someone else is your own choice. Have at it.

I just don’t understand your reasoning for putting both on the same level. There is nothing high and mighty about that in my opinion.

 

[glorybox]

It’s abhorrent, but I’m sure pretty much all of us when we were younger sang “the Munich song” during matches against United.
Don’t castigate, educate.

I literally don’t know the words and I’m nearly 50.

 

[so-called fan]

Perhaps I was in a parallel universe North Bank when it was sung.

I think maybe a fair few of those denying hearing it must have started going when it was rare for us to play Manchester United. In the 70s it was a common North Bank song whenever we played them. Assuming I'm thinking of the same song everybody else is.

 

[Mark Rankines Lovechild]

The mind boggles.

Man arrested at Wembley over '97' football shirt

The FA said it condemned the action, which it said referred to the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.

www.bbc.co.uk

Some people are just morons - it will never change.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

I just don’t understand your reasoning for putting both on the same level. There is nothing high and mighty about that in my opinion.

As I said, it's your choice to be offended or not. You don't have to care what other people think, say or do. Nothing has happened to you. Information just passed from one to another.

When you say you are offended, in essence you are saying that you wish that the other person hadn't thought, said or did something. You want to stop someone from communicating in the manner they have and that you believe you or some authority has some sort of right to stop them from doing so.

So when people say they don't understand my reasoning for putting both on the same level, you are effectively trying to tell me how to think. As I said, I do think both are offensive but why does one have to rank higher than another? What right do you have to tell me that because you think one should be higher, that I should then rank one above another?

 

[Mutchy]

As I said, it's your choice to be offended or not. You don't have to care what other people think, say or do. Nothing has happened to you. Information just passed from one to another.

When you say you are offended, in essence you are saying that you wish that the other person hadn't thought, said or did something. You want to stop someone from communicating in the manner they have and that you believe you or some authority has some sort of right to stop them from doing so.

So when people say they don't understand my reasoning for putting both on the same level, you are effectively trying to tell me how to think. As I said, I do think both are offensive but why does one have to rank higher than another? What right do you have to tell me that because you think one should be higher, that I should then rank one above another?

Here's a clue. They're not remotely on the same level whatever you are trying to argue.
I pointed out a stupid hill for a poster to die on the other day. This is as bad.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

Here's a clue. They're not remotely on the same level whatever you are trying to argue.
I pointed out a stupid hill for a poster to die on the other day. This is as bad.

OK. You keep telling me what I should think. I'll put you on ignore like several others. Have a nice day.

 

[Snarlingwolf]

I just hope that they take this person and lock him in a big room with all the relatives of the 97……..

 

[Mutchy]

OK. You keep telling me what I should think. I'll put you on ignore like several others. Have a nice day.

Its more hoping you'll find a way to think.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Idiots why would anyone think this is a good idea whilst leaving the house??

I don’t want to open a can of worms here but I heard United fan once say “Liverpool own fans are murderers” they have no shame even if it has a point to it sick sick club. No need to say these kind of things. Some people are just riddled with hate.

We all poke fun at vile and the sparrow heads but I wouldn’t wish anyone dead. People just want to watch an honest game of football and go home

 

[Mutchy]

Now charged.

Man charged over '97' football shirt at FA Cup final

The 33-year-old from Warwickshire has been charged with displaying threatening or abusive writing.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Kford]

They will probably only give him a slap on the wrist instead of locking him up for a few years or ban him from ever going to a football match . I hope if he has a job he is sacked and won’t get any benefits . Or better still Liverpool fans find out who he is and beat him up .

 

[VancouverWolf]

The guy is 33 years old……….he’s not an immature teen.

In some ways I kinda feel sorry for him…….33 and still hasn’t grown up. Sad.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

Idiots why would anyone think this is a good idea whilst leaving the house??

I don’t want to open a can of worms here but I heard United fan once say “Liverpool own fans are murderers” they have no shame even if it has a point to it sick sick club. No need to say these kind of things. Some people are just riddled with hate.

We all poke fun at vile and the sparrow heads but I wouldn’t wish anyone dead. People just want to watch an honest game of football and go home

To make a statement. A sad one.

You have to remember that part of the issue here isn't what happened in 1989. Heysel started a lot of the issues as English clubs were banned from Europe because 39 people died, mostly Juventus fans. That caused a lot of resentment among fans of Everton and MUFC. Everton were the champions that season and they MUFC , Norwich and Southampton were all denied an opportunity to compete.

The report exonerating Liverpool fans for Hillsbrough didn't go down well with Everton or MUFC fans as they held Liverpool fans partly responsible for the deaths.... and you have to remember, Everton fans had family members pass away that day as well.

So, we then went from a situation where English teams dominated the European Cup to not being able to compete. Frankly, the hatred is at similar levels to Celtic / Rangers at times. It's not all that surprising there are one or two idiots that want to glorify the death of an opponent. It's been happening since time began. Sad as that is to say.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Idiots why would anyone think this is a good idea whilst leaving the house??

I don’t want to open a can of worms here but I heard United fan once say “Liverpool own fans are murderers” they have no shame even if it has a point to it sick sick club. No need to say these kind of things. Some people are just riddled with hate.

We all poke fun at vile and the sparrow heads but I wouldn’t wish anyone dead. People just want to watch an honest game of football and go home

Agreed. Banter is part of the game. I give my Albion supporting friends a bit of stick when they are not doing very well, and they do the same to me when Wolves are struggling. But that is all it is, just banter. I would never wish ill of people just because they support a different football team to me. To wear a shirt like this man did. goes way beyond banter, and is disgusting.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Look at history.
Take a look at how racism has been handled.
Racism is still around but slowly but surely, society has found a way to educate and it has helped change views of how people see each other. It's not going away completely because of the prejudices that people are brought up with but it is getting better.

This example of a moron wearing a shirt aimed at dead Liverpool supporters is entirely tasteless, ignorant and disgusting but he should have been made to remove his shirt or leave the stadium rather than arrest him. I wonder what he thinks of his actions today?

I bet you this guy is a smug, arrogant, ill- educated, loud-mouthed, boring piece of crap, the type of guy who lets his pit bull crap on your front lawn and thinks its funny. To him being arrested is just another incarceration to add to the list and something he can boast about down the pub. His pals will most likely be too intimidated to comment but support his view of the police state we live in. Unlike most people he will have no remorse over his actions and no consideration of the hurt and sorrow he will have caused. Today will be like any other; a lie in, down the pub, a large hangover and tomorrow, the start of another week claiming the dole and down the bookies. Saturday was just another day.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

They will probably only give him a slap on the wrist instead of locking him up for a few years or ban him from ever going to a football match . I hope if he has a job he is sacked and won’t get any benefits . Or better still Liverpool fans find out who he is and beat him up .

Locking him up or banning him for that is over the top. I like the suggestion of putting him in a room with some of those that have suffered. Usually, unless the other human being has no empathy whatsoever, it helps change viewpoints. It's why families of a murdered relative are sometimes able to forgive the murderer after they have met them, only in reverse.

It's interesting that you say he should be beaten up by Liverpool fans. What good would that do? It's also interesting that this is the response to him wearing a vile t-shirt. Don't like what someone thinks, says or does and the answer is beat them up.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

I bet you this guy is a smug, arrogant, ill- educated, loud-mouthed, boring piece of crap, the type of guy who lets his pit bull crap on your front lawn and thinks its funny. To him being arrested is just another incarceration to add to the list and something he can boast about down the pub. His pals will most likely be too intimidated to comment but support his view of the police state we live in. Unlike most people he will have no remorse over his actions and no consideration of the hurt and sorrow he will have caused. Today will be like any other; a lie in, down the pub, a large hangover and tomorrow, the start of another week claiming the dole and down the bookies. Saturday was just another day.

A lot of supposition there. Human beings can change. A lot do with the passage of time.
Hopefully he's learning some lessons about his behaviour.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

The guy is 33 years old……….he’s not an immature teen.

In some ways I kinda feel sorry for him…….33 and still hasn’t grown up. Sad.

That's a bit of a premature judgment. Have you met him? Do you know what challenges in life he has faced?
Is he mentally stable? None of us know. All that we know is that he made a deplorable choice yesterday.

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Just as offensive in my book.

You are clearly a dick (begins with a d)

(Who knew dick isn’t censored?)

 

[clivewolves]

He'll probably be on Newsnight in the week.

 

[tonto]

I did not laugh... I must not laugh...
Bad Mod! Bad Mod!

I did

 

[tonto]

I literally don’t know the words and I’m nearly 50.

Nor me and I am 67

 

[Rhyl Wolf]

Lest we forget our 81' semi-final at Hillsborough. It was a disaster waiting to happen. There's way too much genuine hatred between certain clubs, which seems to be passed from generation to generation. Anyways, now he's been named, pretty sure retribution, in some shape or form, will be heading his way (in itself, a sad indictment of certain aspects of football fan culture).

It was just a really stupid thing to do. though I'm sure he enjoyed and basked in his 15 minutes of fame.