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Hoganstolemywife

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This is what happens when you have incompetents in positions of power. The same goes for Sellers.

Jeff needs to bin these 2 losers and get some proper people in who know what they are doing. Get bloody Dalrymple back if necessary.

If you see this Jeff, do something. The fans like you, the fans have returned because of what you and Fosun have done; do not let some **** wit (Vinny) spoil it all and make Molineux a toxic place. Treat the fans well and they will always treat you well.
On what basis do you call Scott Sellars incompetent. Surely you have some strong evidence of his incompetency?
 

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On what basis do you call Scott Sellars incompetent. Surely you have some strong evidence of his incompetency?
The fact he was our failed youth team coach would be a good starting point. Did you ever see our U23’s whilst he was in charge? If not, take a look back circa 2018 and then ask yourself if the bloke in charge of that shambles should now be in charge of all football matters.

If you choose to ignore that, do you see any good players coming through our academy as proof of his lasting legacy?

If you want to ignore his previous jobs all together, how about our recruitment at first team level since he was promoted? William Jose. Was he a success?

Considering we already have an absolutely **** central defence and a massive lack of pace in midfield, would you trust him to sort that out? He’s a glorified youth coach that should be working at some ****ty Championship club like Barnsely, not as director of football at Wolves.

As for fat Vinny, I’ll let others explain why he is clearly incompetent. It won’t take much explaining, he’s completely out of touch with reality.
 

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The fact he was our failed youth team coach would be a good starting point. Did you ever see our U23’s whilst he was in charge? If not, take a look back circa 2018 and then ask yourself if the bloke in charge of that shambles should now be in charge of all football matters.

If you choose to ignore that, do you see any good players coming through our academy as proof of his lasting legacy?

If you want to ignore his previous jobs all together, how about our recruitment at first team level since he was promoted? William Jose. Was he a success?

Considering we already have an absolutely **** central defence and a massive lack of pace in midfield, would you trust him to sort that out? He’s a glorified youth coach that should be working at some ****ty Championship club like Barnsely, not as director of football at Wolves.

As for fat Vinny, I’ll let others explain why he is clearly incompetent. It won’t take much explaining, he’s completely out of touch with reality.
I respect that you have a series of well thought out reasons for disliking him.

I have no opinions on him, as I've only started being interested in the youth side of things recently.

When was he promoted to..... whatever made up job title he has now?

I refuse to blame anyone for Willian Jose other than the big fraud himself. On paper, it was a good signing. He just acquitted himself abysmally and couldn't ever be *****. Just thinking about him makes me angry.
 

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I'm getting deja vu! Not good!
 

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My view is this guy thinks he can bleed more money out of us abd has persuaded Jeff. But that’s my view.

The last few months has been the ****test in a long time, what’s the common denominator
I think you are right and I don’t think Jeff is the bad guy in this. He has given fat Vinny some rope, and this moron is going to end up hanging himself.

Jeff has proven he can listen before (I seem to recall Thelwell wanted Lambert as manager), but he needs to stop listening to this guy, he is being badly advised. When Jeff said he sometimes didn’t understand Wolves fans, if asking Vinny was his solution, that was a bad idea. I can assure him that he certainly doesn’t understand Wolves fans. This guy is dangerous and needs sacking. I don’t want to see a toxic Molineux again, but this is guy seems set on creating one.
 

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Perhaps Shi has been relieved of his watch and the rest of them have been instructed to up the value by hook or by crook ready for the fire sale!
 

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Can someone please explain what's happened?

Football has been taken over by money hungry suits

fans have gone along with it begrudgingly for years now thinking that the suits would mellow with time and loyal fans would be seen as a valued part of the game and of football culture as treated with respect.

But instead the suits have carried on mining the fans of their money and watering the game down to a money making exercise involving over paid players, over paid agents, foreign owners who don't care for the culture and tradition of the game and plastic fans who just want to be "entertained" and are happy to pay whatever the price they are charged

RIP footy as we knew it
 

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Interesting theory. You could be right, but my personal instinct is that Jeff Shi has a series of puppets in all the key non-playing staff positions at the club now just implementing what the puppetmaster desires.

It remains to be seen whether Lage is also more of a pliable puppet than the not-at-all-malleable Nuno was. Before his appointment there were some noises on here about Lage being a 'yes man'.
Oh come on…..everybody has a boss. And any good owner doesn’t want a yes man. What fool wants a puppet?
A good owner knows when to listen and take advice and when to keep out of the way. But even Sir Alec had only so much clout.
 

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People seem to expect our employees to be free wheeling mavericks, but, like everywhere else, they have to follow the party line.
In our case the Chinese Communist Party !
This is a fair point Vinny is a smarmy ***** but hes not solely to blame and doing so wrongly absolves the others.

A bit like when people stupidly hated Moxey but backed Morgan.
 

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His brief from Jeff is to maximise revenue into the club. How he does that is on him. Although it will have been signed off by those higher up the chain, this pricing strategy will have come from him as that is his job. From here it will be down to Jeff and those higher up in the decision-making process to decide how the upside of the extra revenue he has brought in weighs off against the downside of the disconnect with a significant portion of the fan base. If we’re still following this path in 12-18 months and Vinny Clarke is still leading us down it, that will be firmly on Jeff Shi.
 

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Is there anybody at the club that Molineux Mix can't do a better job than?

It's becoming a meme that any member of staff not directly related to the playing staff is blamed for just about everything. Thelwell was given pelters for being quietly effective at his job whilst Laurie Dalrymple was regularly slated - until he left and everyone decided he was actually doing a decent job when he was here :rolleyes:

Most of you lot love the new Castore gear - how do you know Vinny wasn't behind that also?

(Also, I know it's a Mix thing to misspell the names of our staff, but this one isn't that hard. It's Clark without an 'e')
 
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Is there anybody at the club that Molineux Mix can't do a better job than?

It's becoming a meme that any member of staff that's not directly related to the playing staff is blamed for just about everything. Thelwell was given pelters for being quietly effective at his job whilst Laurie Dalrymple was regularly slated - until he left and everyone decided he was actually doing a decent job when he was here :rolleyes:

Most of you lot love the new Castore gear - how do you know Vinny wasn't behind that also?

(Also, I know it's a Mix thing to misspell the names of our staff, but this one isn't that hard. It's Clark without an 'e')
Vinny has come in and the fans are being fleeced. I think the fact he had the cheek to try and make out that the Man U game was not a dead rubber to justify the £45 ticket price tells us all we need to know about him.
 

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Vinny has come in and the fans are being fleeced. I think the fact he had the cheek to try and make out that the Man U game was not a dead rubber tells us all we need to know about him.
Do you think you could do a better job than him?
 

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Why would Jeff suddenly become a ****? He’s not priced us out over the last 5 years. In comes this clown snd look at what’s happening?

Coincidence?
Ah, so he's Jeff's boss then? I know if I went to my boss with a **** idea he'd tell me to **** off. I also know that if my boss asked me to devise a plan to implement his **** idea then we'd run with it.
 

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Just think. All of those £20s for superfan-without-a-season-ticket tier going straight into the pockets of Semedo.

IT. MAKES. ME. SO. ANGRY.
 

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Is there anybody at the club that Molineux Mix can't do a better job than?

It's becoming a meme that any member of staff that's not directly related to the playing staff is blamed for just about everything. Thelwell was given pelters for being quietly effective at his job whilst Laurie Dalrymple was regularly slated - until he left and everyone decided he was actually doing a decent job when he was here :rolleyes:

Most of you lot love the new Castore gear - how do you know Vinny wasn't behind that also?

(Also, I know it's a Mix thing to misspell the names of our staff, but this one isn't that hard. It's Clark without an 'e')
We love a pantomime villain at wolves. Personally I think semedo writes Vinnys script for him.
 

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Baffling that people are venting so much anger at someone who doesn't get final sign-off on decisions... he's obviously involved, but he's working under direction from his line manager, as we all are. In his case, I imagine that's our Jeff.

As others have said, if he went, the next bloke would be doing exactly the same.

People now clamour for Laurie because he spoke well in interviews. You can see why he got the job, gift of the gab. If I remember correctly, he did leave the club very early to pursue something he cared about more than Wolves...
 

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People now clamour for Laurie because he spoke well in interviews. You can see why he got the job, gift of the gab. If I remember correctly, he did leave the club very early to pursue something he cared about more than Wolves...
He was sacked

 
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Baffling that people are venting so much anger at someone who doesn't get final sign-off on decisions... he's obviously involved, but he's working under direction from his line manager, as we all are. In his case, I imagine that's our Jeff.

As others have said, if he went, the next bloke would be doing exactly the same.

People now clamour for Laurie because he spoke well in interviews. You can see why he got the job, gift of the gab. If I remember correctly, he did leave the club very early to pursue something he cared about more than Wolves...
Sly dig at Laurie there. He's not a Wolves fan. Ultimately he left to do a similar job but walking distance from his home and near where his kids go to school.

Any sane person would do the same for a similarly well paid job.
 
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His brief from Jeff is to maximise revenue into the club. How he does that is on him. Although it will have been signed off by those higher up the chain, this pricing strategy will have come from him as that is his job. From here it will be down to Jeff and those higher up in the decision-making process to decide how the upside of the extra revenue he has brought in weighs off against the downside of the disconnect with a significant portion of the fan base. If we’re still following this path in 12-18 months and Vinny Clarke is still leading us down it, that will be firmly on Jeff Shi.
If you think Jeff didn't make the final call on pricing you have no idea how chain of command works.
 
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Football has been taken over by money hungry suits

fans have gone along with it begrudgingly for years now thinking that the suits would mellow with time and loyal fans would be seen as a valued part of the game and of football culture as treated with respect.

But instead the suits have carried on mining the fans of their money and watering the game down to a money making exercise involving over paid players, over paid agents, foreign owners who don't care for the culture and tradition of the game and plastic fans who just want to be "entertained" and are happy to pay whatever the price they are charged

RIP footy as we knew it
How are Prem players overpaid? Championship players are but players are compensated for the massive revenues they bring in.
 

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Is there anybody at the club that Molineux Mix can't do a better job than?

It's becoming a meme that any member of staff not directly related to the playing staff is blamed for just about everything. Thelwell was given pelters for being quietly effective at his job whilst Laurie Dalrymple was regularly slated - until he left and everyone decided he was actually doing a decent job when he was here :rolleyes:

Most of you lot love the new Castore gear - how do you know Vinny wasn't behind that also?

(Also, I know it's a Mix thing to misspell the names of our staff, but this one isn't that hard. It's Clark without an 'e')
Vinny has just got something completely wrong that forced the club to backtrack within days.

He compared our pricing to Leicester, wrongly.

He lied about us suffering losses as a reason for increasing prices. We hadn’t recorded a loss in reality.

He’s talked about ‘aligning’ to where we are as a club. There’s a thread on here that says the new pricing structure is comparable to the top six. We’ve just finished 13th.

I get your overall point that people are scapegoats on here but Vinny is proving to be bad at his job.
 

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Vinny has just got something completely wrong that forced the club to backtrack within days.

He compared our pricing to Leicester, wrongly.

He lied about us suffering losses as a reason for increasing prices. We hadn’t recorded a loss in reality.

He’s talked about ‘aligning’ to where we are as a club. There’s a thread on here that says the new pricing structure is comparable to the top six. We’ve just finished 13th.

I get your overall point that people are scapegoats on here but Vinny is proving to be bad at his job.
Perhaps they should come out and explain. I don't recall any explanation.
 

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This is what happens when you have incompetents in positions of power. The same goes for Sellers.

Jeff needs to bin these 2 losers and get some proper people in who know what they are doing. Get bloody Dalrymple back if necessary.

If you see this Jeff, do something. The fans like you, the fans have returned because of what you and Fosun have done; do not let some **** wit (Vinny) spoil it all and make Molineux a toxic place. Treat the fans well and they will always treat you well.
What has sellers done to be incompetent?
 

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The big problem with running a football club that I see with Jeff is that he never played football at any level so how can he, despite being at Wolves for a while, know anything at all about player performance?
 

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The big problem with running a football club that I see with Jeff is that he never played football at any level so how can he, despite being at Wolves for a while, know anything at all about player performance?
He doesnt need to know, in the same way Daniel Levy doesnt need to know at spurs or indeed any other chairman, he has a recruitment team behind him.
 
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