The happy days are here again, hopefully no more repeated arguments, transfer thread

[DanishWolf]

Can't really believe there are people in this thread that would rather have Silva than a guy who's scored 25 goals for Belgium and had 23 goals or assist in 33 games last season, or a guy that scored 23 goals over 2 seasons for a poor Bordeaux side

Remind me again. How many goals did Silva score last season?

He will (hopefully) be ready in due time. But for now I'd take 2 proven experienced strikers over him.

 

[CodsallWolf]

Why. We have 5 goalies now.

Unless....... we wouldn’t would we?

 

[Skrilla]

Last season 42 games and 14 goals

Agreed hit or miss.

What we can’t tell from those stats is how many were as a sub etc.

183 minutes per goal over his last five seasons, so a goal every other game. Started a fair bit at Besiktas last season, scoring 14 in 28 starts. Prior to that, he's been used very heavily as a sub at Palace, Chelsea and Valencia. Aside from a couple of loan spells at Dortmund (7 in 9 starts) and Palace first loan (5 in 9 starts), he's not really been given many opportunities to start regularly, for one reason or another.

He's not going to pull up any trees, but as a stand-in until Raul is fully fit he'll be a decent option. He's not going to be a world beater, but I can think of a lot worse options. Experienced, two footed, great nickname (Batman). Once Raul is fit, he'll probably be used sparingly off the bench.

With the hope obviously being that Silva will have a breakout year at Anderlecht similar to MGW last year, and then Silva will be a lot more prepared to compete with Raul to start next season. Was anyone seriously expecting us to sign a world beater when we have our transfer record £35m signing out on loan? If this loan means we have more funds freed up to go after a quality midfielder (see: Nunes), then it's absolutely worth it.

 

[rg4352]

He is. Any sticking point will probably be that they want us to pay most of his wages so he's effectively off their payroll a year sooner.

I think he's out of contract next summer.

Oh he is?! Brill, hope he does really well for us, a straight loan makes more sense now

 

[wolfslair]

If you‘re going to do the “time travel” bit then you should also time travel back to 2015 and you welcome Fosun with open arms if you knew they‘d make Wolves a stable PL club.
Did you enjoy the promotion euphoria?

He enjoyed those things clearly as we all did.

BUT the club have missed out on a few opportunities to kick on or heck even maintain that 9-7th kind of squad. But we have let that slide with overpaying for players

e.g Hoover for the fee we paid was ****ing stupid and we will lose money on that one….

Semedo - good player but at the fee paid, we over paid

Silva - talented, will be a good player, BUT if the fee being that big has meant we have less to spend now it was a big over payment baring in mind they had been watching him for years and the season before his buy out clause was under 10million……

Cutrone - that is 18 million we will never see again

Not buying specialist centre back till this summer. Making do with the same 3 as the championship season of which 2 are converted CDM’s. Last season having a sepecialist CB would have made a massive difference especially after we lost max. But the Vallejo loan was a massive waste of time for everyone…… and letting Botman slip through their fingers for less than Newcastle paid this summer.

Not having a senior football ready second striker the season we lost raul or even the season after when seeing what happens when he is missing

And finally not buying a better player than dendonker to improve the midfield or give it a more dynamic attacking option for goals or even just adding a 4th dance partner to give rotation or cover injury, covid or suspensions.

We have regressed massively since the second season and they have done very little to address it while charging us more for the privelage and saying we need to pay more to get them to do more, I am sorry the proof is in the pudding and sadly there is no evidence of being more competitive in the transfer market.

 

[Mark Rankines Lovechild]

Romano has reported bid has gone in from Wolves for Hwang MkII.
Clubs in negotiation.

 

[greco wolf]

Looking at in the league only:

For Marseille, Dortmund, Besiktas & his first stint at Palace = 116 matches played, 84 starts, 52 goals

For Chelsea, Valencia & his second stint at Palace = 83 matches played, 18 starts, 15 goals

Sounds good to me.

 

[92WWFC]

Batshauyi could work. If Neto, Podence and MGW are effective then he would score goals. I think his poor run at palace a few seasons ago was due to Hodgsonball really as he's not an especially complete striker but with the right players around him he scores goals.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

We am a team of Gary Breens . We am a team of hwangs

 

[Flea]

Batshuayi would be better than what I´ve expected.
Unfortunately,I don´t think it will happen..but would be well pleased if indeed it did.
He has a record better than Raul when he signed,and he is a proven striker IMO.
Fingers crossed it will happen.I think he would be a hit in Old Gold and Black.

 

[Mark Rankines Lovechild]

Romano has reported bid has gone in from Wolves for Hwang MkII.
Clubs in negotiation.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Still nervous about ran,

hopefully they go after grimaldo

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[AndyY]

I really wish the transfer window shut before the first game of the season. And then we can just get on with it with what we have got.
This is all doing my head in!

 

[rg4352]

I really wish the transfer window shut before the first game of the season. And then we can just get on with it with what we have got.
This is all doing my head in!

I agree, it drives me nuts, I imagine every manager would also like to know what squad he will be working with before the season starts also

 

[SanFranWolf]

Batshuayi would be a solid signing!!

He had that year at Dortmund where he scored goals for fun and then has always had a fairly decent return.

Has been a bit of a journeyman so has a lot of experience.

 

[wolfslair]

Oh he is?! Brill, hope he does really well for us, a straight loan makes more sense now

It might force him to really push harder as he can use us to put himself in the shop
Window for a bigger package than we could offer or he likes us and stays.

It is a total win win for the lad

 

[SanFranWolf]

I really wish the transfer window shut before the first game of the season. And then we can just get on with it with what we have got.
This is all doing my head in!

I 100% agree.

I hope someone looks at the whole thing and compresses it into a week in July.

 

[Greeno]

The meltdown on here if we end up with two Hwang’s

 

[Dan G WWFC]

So a question lets says what Alex Crook is saying is true and we are in "advance" talks with Batshuayi for a loan do we still go in for Hwang Ui-Jo who can play across the forward line?

I doubt it, I think it's a case of working on a few deals at once just incase.

 

[Skrilla]

So a question lets says what Alex Crook is saying is true and we are in "advance" talks with Batshuayi for a loan do we still go in for Hwang Ui-Jo who can play across the forward line?

Cheap depth, why not? He can play out wide as well, and we still don't know if Traore will be moved on, but I have a feeling he will.

 

[BrierleyHillWolves]

Batshuayi could be a fantastic signing , could we not judge him before we see him in a Wolves short on the pitch

Fernando Torres was absolutely fantastic for Liverpool and terrible for Chelsea

 

[Wolowolf6]

We am a team of Gary Breens . We am a team of hwangs

“You’re just a team of Hwankers,
You’re just a team of Hwankers!”

As sung by opposing fans in 2022.

 

[WolfLing]

Still nervous about ran,

hopefully they go after grimaldo

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Or someone pays £50m for RAN, we pick up Grimaldo for the reported £8m and buy Nunes with the balance?

 

[Erick1011]

Not happy, just about finished working on a goal celebration chant for He Chan :
Bang, Bang, Hwang!
Bang, Bang, Hwang!
Who can?
He Chan!
Bang, Bang, Hwang!

Now I might have to work on the third and fourth line.

Only acceptable chant is to the tune of Baby Shark.

Hwang-He Chan doo-doo-do-doo-doo
Hwang-He Chan doo-doo-do-doo-doo
Hwang-He Chan doo-doo-do-doo-doo

 

[JayStringer]

183 minutes per goal over his last five seasons, so a goal every other game. Started a fair bit at Besiktas last season, scoring 14 in 28 starts. Prior to that, he's been used very heavily as a sub at Palace, Chelsea and Valencia. Aside from a couple of loan spells at Dortmund (7 in 9 starts) and Palace first loan (5 in 9 starts), he's not really been given many opportunities to start regularly, for one reason or another.

He's not going to pull up any trees, but as a stand-in until Raul is fully fit he'll be a decent option. He's not going to be a world beater, but I can think of a lot worse options. Experienced, two footed, great nickname (Batman). Once Raul is fit, he'll probably be used sparingly off the bench.

With the hope obviously being that Silva will have a breakout year at Anderlecht similar to MGW last year, and then Silva will be a lot more prepared to compete with Raul to start next season. Was anyone seriously expecting us to sign a world beater when we have our transfer record £35m signing out on loan? If this loan means we have more funds freed up to go after a quality midfielder (see: Nunes), then it's absolutely worth it.

And lets face it, a goal every other game is consistently better than what Raul was giving us last season.

Now, I'm fully confident we'll see a much improved Raul this year and he just needed to spend last year working through the frustration and trauma. BUT bringing in a goal-every-other-game striker as our backup option is a pretty good position to be in.

 

[Skrilla]

And lets face it, a goal every other game is consistently better than what Raul was giving us last season.

Now, I'm fully confident we'll see a much improved Raul this year and he just needed to spend last year working through the frustration and trauma. BUT bringing in a goal-every-other-game striker as our backup option is a pretty good position to be in.

I do think we'll see a different Raul this year compared to last year for the exact reasons you've mentioned there. He's clearly very frustrated by the injury he picked up, and hopefully he'll be back soon, but as you say, a goal every other game isn't anything to be scoffed at for a backup.

In our "old" system, we were extremely reliant on Raul for goals, his goal share as a percentage of the total must have been up there with the highest in the league, especially after losing Jota who contributed a lot of important goals for us. A lot seem to think the answer is "Replace Raul", but a switch to a more attacking system, and a more confident Raul that doesn't have the mental trauma of his injury in the back of his mind as much, and I think we'll see the old Raul unshackled again.

 

[rg4352]

And lets face it, a goal every other game is consistently better than what Raul was giving us last season.

Now, I'm fully confident we'll see a much improved Raul this year and he just needed to spend last year working through the frustration and trauma. BUT bringing in a goal-every-other-game striker as our backup option is a pretty good position to be in.

It also brings in a competition aspect for Raul’s place that I’m not convinced Silva did, which I’d hope motivates Raul also

 

[The Clock]

“You’re just a team of H******s,
You’re just a team of H******s!”

As sung by opposing fans in 2022.

Two Hwangs don’t make a right unfortunately

 

[Elokobi Wan]

Not happy, just about finished working on a goal celebration chant for He Chan :
Bang, Bang, Hwang!
Bang, Bang, Hwang!
Who can?
He Chan!
Bang, Bang, Hwang!

Now I might have to work on the third and fourth line.

Song for when both Hwangs are on the field:

One Hwang, or another, We're gonna find ya
We're gonna get ya, get ya, get ya, get ya
One Hwang, or another, We're gonna win ya
We're gonna get ya, get ya, get ya, get ya

 

[Timberwolf]

WTF is there to "monitor" and "keep tabs on" with regards to a 30-year-old from the French 2nd division?

It's probably retrospective scouting, for all the players we're interested in:

• Watching footage of old games
• Checking stats, injury record, disciplinary record etc
• Speaking to people who've seen him play/played with him/against him
• Speaking to people who know his character
• Background checks

And then it'll be sounding the player out, probably informally at first:

• Are they interested?
• Would they be happy with the position/tactics we have in mind for them?
• Would they be happy in the area?
• What sort of wage/signing on fee?
• What length contract?
• Will they be ok not starting every game?
• Is there anything we could put in place to help them on or off the pitch?

And then there's the bureaucratic stuff:

• Will they get work permit?
• Are selling club trustworthy?
• Does selling club have any debts that might hold things up?
• Are there any complicated rights or third party ownership agreements that might hold things up?
• Are any other third parties going to emerge last minute to hold things up/demand money?
• Is agent trustworthy?

Doing due diligence before making the offer reduces the chances of getting burned when the transfer's almost completed and then not having time to get second option, or having to panic buy/pay over the odds.

After all that fine work, Goldfish’s face when he’s told thommo1984 was being rhetorical

 

[Wolf Pack leader]

Song for when both Hwangs are on the field:

One Hwang, or another, We're gonna find ya
We're gonna get ya, get ya, get ya, get ya
One Hwang, or another, We're gonna win ya
We're gonna get ya, get ya, get ya, get ya

Brilliant !!!

 

[Premier Quality]

Only acceptable chant is to the tune of Baby Shark.

Hwang-He Chan doo-doo-do-doo-doo
Hwang-He Chan doo-doo-do-doo-doo
Hwang-He Chan doo-doo-do-doo-doo

You can’t steal Jamie Tartt’s song!!!

 

[tonto]

I agree, it drives me nuts, I imagine every manager would also like to know what squad he will be working with before the season starts also

I think the window should open after the last game of the season is played
Closed a week before start of new season

 

[Direwolf]

Getting quite excited with todays news reputable sources confirming our interest in two strikers. Was only expecting one. Batshuayi and Hwang both decent prospects for goals at reasonable prices at last we could have options, and competition for places at the front. Will be well pleased if we get them both over the line.

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

Scraping the barrel of reasons why we’ve been so quiet until now and thought of this.

If we sign your average PL player they’ll be on let’s say 50k per week after the capital outlay.

3 players on 50k per week singed mid July as opposed to mid August saves is £600,000 in wages.

I’m otherthinking it I know.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

Getting quite excited with todays news reputable sources confirming our interest in two strikers. Was only expecting one. Batshuayi and Hwang both decent prospects for goals at reasonable prices at last we could have options, and competition for places at the front. Will be well pleased if we get them both over the line.

Doubt it'll be both and you'll have to deal with just the one coming in

 

[lets all have a disco]

Still very sceptical when it's sky sports I am....as I say it's all been mentioned before , I think to fleece everyone with bets myself.....how many people have they fleeced with bets today on neves , coady and batshuayi......

 

[Wolf 82]

I kind of like the look of the two striking rumours.. they’ll have plenty of decent footballers around them, with Neto, Podence, MGW.. so hopefully they both sign and one shows form early.

 

[ombyman]

Surely we are massively appealing to any striker who wants to make a name or a world cup squad.
We have no fit centre forward, so if they come in and bag 5 goals before Raul is back they will probably keep him out and make a name for themselves in the Premier League/earn their spot on the WC plane.
This, plus the prospect of playing in front of Neves, Mouts, Neto and the gang should have strikers queueing up to join us.

 

[VancouverWolf]

I do think we'll see a different Raul this year compared to last year for the exact reasons you've mentioned there. He's clearly very frustrated by the injury he picked up, and hopefully he'll be back soon, but as you say, a goal every other game isn't anything to be scoffed at for a backup.

In our "old" system, we were extremely reliant on Raul for goals, his goal share as a percentage of the total must have been up there with the highest in the league, especially after losing Jota who contributed a lot of important goals for us. A lot seem to think the answer is "Replace Raul", but a switch to a more attacking system, and a more confident Raul that doesn't have the mental trauma of his injury in the back of his mind as much, and I think we'll see the old Raul unshackled again.

In our “old” system as you put it Raul indeed was doing great but we had Doc and Jota then and Traore was playing great in his second season.
Since then, for whatever reason, Raul, Silva, Willian and Hwang did not, imo, received enough reasonable scoring chances.

With Hwang and Raul,( back soon), playing up front, will we score more goals?
Has Bruno fixed our problem?