Staying @ Wolves - Traore or Trincao or Barca / Sporting Swap Deals??

[WolfLing]

Trincao is young, looks to have the tools, and can get better. Hwang is older, looks to have questionable basics and has slowly got worse.... What do you think?

Where we are now, I think I'd much rather have Trincao as part of the squad for the next few seasons.

As you say, I think he can get much better. His ceiling is a lot higher than Hwang's and he is a lot younger. I also think Trincao will end up being a very adaptable player, who can either play off the wing, as a wider attacking midfield player, as a 10, or even as the most attacking option in a midfield 3. Very similar to all the roles Bernardo Silva can fill for City. So he gives a manager options.

I just can't see where Hwang fits in at the moment. He's not a central striker and he's not really a wide player. His best position is probably as a second striker playing off a target man, which we know Bruno wants. But we don't play that way (yet), so his role just becomes a squad filler, who can fill in across a few positions we use, but not very well. He then just blocks a path to first team minutes for players like Chiquinho, Chem Campbell, etc.

Maybe his role will become clearer when we know who is coming in and how Bruno is planning on setting up next season.

 

[fleck1]

You don't have to. Why not do your research into the subject rather than just reading **** off here, then come back and acknowledge i was correct. We can all be smart arses.

We can all spout conspiracy theories on a internet forum, rather than admit that Barca got a try before they buy and it hasn't lived up to the hype. I don't need to research I have spent 4 seasons watching him every week, he runs very fast but offers very little at the end of it bar a good spell in 2019. We may as well stick Usain Bolt on the other wing

 

[Oldskooldayz]

Interesting that bruno has said no decision has been made on trincao yet as sporting are known to want him and we supposedly want a couple of players from them.

Maybe mendes is setting up a swap deal with us getting palinha and nunes with trincao going the other way. Sporting have to pay for vinagre still and we still hold a 25% sell on clause for goncalves. This is exactly the kind of manoeuvring mendes is known for

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Where we are now, I think I'd much rather have Trincao as part of the squad for the next few seasons.

As you say, I think he can get much better. His ceiling is a lot higher than Hwang's and he is a lot younger. I also think Trincao will end up being a very adaptable player, who can either play off the wing, as a wider attacking midfield player, as a 10, or even as the most attacking option in a midfield 3. Very similar to all the roles Bernardo Silva can fill for City. So he gives a manager options.

I just can't see where Hwang fits in at the moment. He's not a central striker and he's not really a wide player. His best position is probably as a second striker playing off a target man, which we know Bruno wants. But we don't play that way (yet), so his role just becomes a squad filler, who can fill in across a few positions we use, but not very well. He then just blocks a path to first team minutes for players like Chiquinho, Chem Campbell, etc.

Maybe his role will become clearer when we know who is coming in and how Bruno is planning on setting up next season.

Trincao can't play off either wing, way too slow. Only chance he has is as a central player, and even then he creates absolutely nothing so he'd need to dramatically improve to even be an average Premier League player.

Trincao will never be fit to lace Silva's boots.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

If Pedrinho signs, then no way is Trincao staying. In saying that, I think it also means neither will Traore be coming back.

Player comparison Pedrinho / Francisco Trincão

This is the comparision between Pedrinho and Francisco Trincão.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

 

[Richboxy]

A start and assist for Adama this evening. Shame it was a pass to the opposition and he was then subbed 2 mins later. Oh dear.

 

[DDPPwolf313]

A start and assist for Adama this evening. Shame it was a pass to the opposition and he was then subbed 2 mins later. Oh dear.

Just seen it, unbelievable.

 

[thommo1984]

Bring! Him! Home!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528486001340846080

A fitting end to the season.

 

[hollo]

If only he would sign a new contract with us.

 

[Wolf316]

If only he would sign a new contract with us.

I’ve got a feeling he will.

 

[old wittonian]

Bring! Him! Home!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528486001340846080

A fitting end to the season.

He was subbed a couple of minutes later.

 

[Matt]

I really feel for him. A very likable guy who got his dream move, was playing well, and then got dropped and hasn't had a look in since. Hopefully, he has some goodwill towards us for allowing him the opportunity to return to Barca and signs a new deal now.

 

[Royal wolf]

He needs love and support which is something he gets here so hopefully he returns all fired up.

 

[Rangiora Wolf]

Can see barca pfaffing around with this until the last minute to force the price down. We need to push them now to either stump up or send him home.

 

[Minimalist]

Can see barca pfaffing around with this until the last minute to force the price down. We need to push them now to either stump up or send him home.

Would imagine the deal will have a set date they have to trigger the buy option by. Probably fairly soon after the seasons end.

 

[Matt]

Can see barca pfaffing around with this until the last minute to force the price down. We need to push them now to either stump up or send him home.

I can't see Barca signing him no matter how low the price is.

 

[Flaneur]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528661511660400640

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

If only he would sign a new contract with us.

As long as its not as RWB lol

 

[KBWWFC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528661511660400640

Whoever sanctioned this deal should never work in football again.

 

[Mugwump]

If only he would sign a new contract with us.

But what contract would we offer him. His last offer was going to make him close to the top earner at the club. He wasnt worth it back then, and he sure as hell isnt worth it now. You wouldnt want to pay him more than 60k a week and thats being generous.

 

[Howler]

Jeff taken for a ride, we all saw it coming.

He's out of his depth, get some proper football people in to run the football side of the club you tight arses.

 

[Rangiora Wolf]

Jeff taken for a ride, we all saw it coming.

He's out of his depth, get some proper football people in to run the football side of the club you tight arses.

I bet you feel better after that

 

[Dan G WWFC]

I'll guessing he'll go Everton for£15m

 

[Sanewolf]

Still cracks me up that we have players like Hwang and Trincao playing for Wolves whilst Adama sits on the bench in Spain. What is even more funny is that many of our fan base were happy for him to go because we had depth in wide positions, that depth includes Trincao and Hwang, hahahahaha.

In 18 months we went from Jota, Traore and Raul to Hwang, Trincao and Silva.

 

[steve vena]

Whoever sanctioned this deal should never work in football again.

Well done Jeff and Scott.

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

I'll guessing he'll go Everton for£15m

More likely 20m as Leeds want Adama too and they bought Helder Costa for 16m was it?

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Everton or leeds likely candidates for Adama, probably 20m and then will get a **** load of assists, in typical fashion

 

[Wolf316]

He’ll sign a new contract with us rather than go to Leeds or Everton.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

More likely 20m as Leeds want he too and they bought Helder Costa for 16m was it?

But he's **** and for 1 year left on his deal.

Imagine having Daniel James and Adama on the wings, sprinting down the line to float a ball into the stand behind the goal

 

[Dan G WWFC]

He’ll sign a new contract with us rather than go to Leeds or Everton.

Bloody hope not. Get rid of him and throw in Hwang. Might get enough money to afford a semi decent attacker

 

[Perton Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1528661511660400640

Joke of a deal from a joke of a club unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

He’ll sign a new contract with us rather than go to Leeds or Everton.

Yep, and maybe the Barca thing has tempered his ambition a bit. He's perfect as a last 30 min player, and maybe he realises it now. So wages and contract to suit.
However much he's marmite here, he frightens every opposition manager and defender. I'd be happy to see him back here for next season.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Yep, and maybe the Barca thing has tempered his ambition a bit. He's perfect as a last 30 min player, and maybe he realises it now. So wages and contract to suit.
However much he's marmite here, he frightens every opposition manager and defender. I'd be happy to see him back here for next season.

Think he frightens the manager he actually plays for to, because you dont know what hes going to do or turn up in the game

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

Think he frightens the manager he actually plays for to, because you dont know what hes going to do or turn up in the game

Maybe, but he's leagues above Hwang. Opposition managers are not frightened in the slightest when Hwang comes on. Traore however...

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Maybe, but he's leagues above Hwang. Opposition managers are not frightened in the slightest when Hwang comes on. Traore however...

100 percent, i would also say chiquinho has showed more scare ability than hwang.

What i would be worried is of if you bring adama back you stunt the potential of chiquinho, he could have a breakthrough neto like season next year.

Him and neto on the wings, podence/mgw in a 10 could be very exciting

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

*******s of a deal from Wolves

Hang your head in shame.

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

100 percent, i would also say chiquinho has showed more scare ability than hwang.

What i would be worried is of if you bring adama back you stunt the potential of chiquinho, he could have a breakthrough neto like season next year.

Him and neto on the wings, podence/mgw in a 10 could be very exciting

I agree, but it's a 5 sub rule next season. The ability to make more changes will help the development of players like Chiquinho.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

The deal was a roll of the dice, he goes to Barca and tear's up the Camp Nou and we get £30m, he doesn't and he comes back and he can put the dreams of playing again for is hometown club behind him.

He either signs a new deal and commits and is integrated back into the squad or we get our money back in the summer. At least the limbo is over.

This as much about how we treat players and been seen as a pathway to Europe's elite as much as it was about the potential income.

Oh and we have no way of knowing if retaining him would have got us into Europe next season

 

[North West Wanderer]

But what contract would we offer him. His last offer was going to make him close to the top earner at the club. He wasnt worth it back then, and he sure as hell isnt worth it now. You wouldnt want to pay him more than 60k a week and thats being generous.

Absolutely right

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Absolutely right

You offer him perhaps between 60 to 80k or move on.