Stadium Plans

[dewolfman]

BUILD A ****ING BIGGER STADIUM

Get this man involved in the stadium planning, makes some valid points.

 

[Sheffield Wolf]

I'm 52....soon to be 53....

Me too. My boys have just persuaded me to move from the North Bank to the South Bank. Absolutely loving it.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Me too. My boys have just persuaded me to move from the North Bank to the South Bank. Absolutely loving it.

Don't wear ya green n yellow striped top that ya love...

 

[Sheffield Wolf]

Don't wear ya green n yellow striped top that ya love...

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Me too. My boys have just persuaded me to move from the North Bank to the South Bank. Absolutely loving it.

I did a year in the north bank in the mid 90s then been South bank ever since. Comparing the two is like comparing fillet steak to corned beef.

 

[Sheffield Wolf]

I did a year in the north bank in the mid 90s then been South bank ever since. Comparing the two is like comparing fillet steak to corned beef.

Spot on mate. I love a bit of corned beef

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Spot on mate. I love a bit of corned beef

I did my mate a solid and let him take his cousin from Australia to a game in the south bank last season and sat in the new north bank first time. I won’t be rushing for a second, awful atmosphere

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Get this man involved in the stadium planning, makes some valid points.

Thank you for attending my seminar

 

[Peszkywolf]

Annoys me a bit that the ground is a closed shop as soon as Wolves have any sort of success. Not great for future support.

Anyone know why the huge South Bank terrace only became a 5000 seated stand?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Annoys me a bit that the ground is a closed shop as soon as Wolves have any sort of success. Not great for future support.

Anyone know why the huge South Bank terrace only became a 5000 seated stand?

Trouble is football is a fast moving beast. It’s not that long ago under Saunders we were getting 17,000, it looked and felt awful then, imagine how it would be if it happened again and the stadium held 40k plus?

 

[Peszkywolf]

Trouble is football is a fast moving beast. It’s not that long ago under Saunders we were getting 17,000, it looked and felt awful then, imagine how it would be if it happened again and the stadium held 40k plus?

Think about 38000 would be perfect for us, with a top tier that could be closed if we were Saunders'd again.
Not sure long term putting away fans in the quadrant is great IMO, I'd give them a quarter or corner of south bank going into the Steve Bull instead. Better atmosphere when the away fans make some noise.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Think about 38000 would be perfect for us, with a top tier that could be closed if we were Saunders'd again.
Not sure long term putting away fans in the quadrant is great IMO, I'd give them a quarter or corner of south bank going into the Steve Bull instead. Better atmosphere when the away fans make some noise.

That’s always been around my number in my head, anything above 40k is madness.

 

[Wolf316]

Annoys me a bit that the ground is a closed shop as soon as Wolves have any sort of success. Not great for future support.

Anyone know why the huge South Bank terrace only became a 5000 seated stand?

It really isn’t a closed shop

 

[hollo]

I did a year in the north bank in the mid 90s then been South bank ever since. Comparing the two is like comparing fillet steak to corned beef.

I prefer the north bank to the south bank as there is a lot more space.

The John Ireland stand is the worst stand. It's really cramped, have to queue for the toilet, and needs condemning.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Annoys me a bit that the ground is a closed shop as soon as Wolves have any sort of success. Not great for future support.

Anyone know why the huge South Bank terrace only became a 5000 seated stand?

Because when it was built, the South Bank moved east and had less space to use on the bank it’s largely built on. Then consider that a seated stand will hold far fewer people per sq metre than an old terrace, and that’s the result

If you look at the old Molineux photo attached, then consider that the John Ireland / Steve Bull stand was built entirely behind the old Molineux Street stand and the new South Bank sits square to that stand. So the new South Bank sits only on the lower half of the old South Bank, so it’s much smaller and far less densely packed.

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[Minimalist]

Because when it was built, the South Bank moved east and had less space to use on the bank it’s largely built on. Then consider that a seated stand will hold far fewer people per sq metre than an old terrace, and that’s the result

If you look at the old Molineux photo attached, then consider that the John Ireland / Steve Bull stand was built entirely behind the old Molineux Street stand and the new South Bank sits square to that stand. So the new South Bank sits only on the lower half of the old South Bank, so it’s much smaller and far less densely packed.

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Also, and simply, the new south bank was built to be in proportion to the existing John Ireland stand. Plus 28k was a sensible capacity at the time.

 

[Minimalist]

Back in the day, when 2 sides of the ground was closed. Why couldn’t a small amount of work on the north bank have made it usable? Even if they had removed all the roofing and just had it open air terracing for away fans??
I remember going away to one of the Bristol teams and we were behind a goal with no roof…

 

[Rhoswolf]

Back in the day, when 2 sides of the ground was closed. Why couldn’t a small amount of work on the north bank have made it usable? Even if they had removed all the roofing and just had it open air terracing for away fans??
I remember going away to one of the Bristol teams and we were behind a goal with no roof…

Wood construction following Bradford fire.

 

[Spitfire]

Back in the day, when 2 sides of the ground was closed. Why couldn’t a small amount of work on the north bank have made it usable? Even if they had removed all the roofing and just had it open air terracing for away fans??
I remember going away to one of the Bristol teams and we were behind a goal with no roof…

Basically we had no cash. At one point we couldn’t even pay the milkman.

 

[Matt]

I prefer the north bank to the south bank as there is a lot more space.

The John Ireland stand is the worst stand. It's really cramped, have to queue for the toilet, and needs condemning.

My ST is in the South Bank but we go in the North Bank (upper) sometimes for cup games and agree it’s loads better in terms of space in the concourse and at the seats. My only complaint is when we’ve gone to WV1 the legroom in those seats in absolutely horrendous, I am 6ft 4 but the only way I can fit in is by crunching my legs into the seat in front.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Probably dismantling the north bank roof would've cost a fair few £££ when we had 2 stands that held a lot. Wierd seeing a ground with 2 sides, must've felt like the club was a complete shambles to the players or new signings!

 

[Stourport wolf]

Trouble is football is a fast moving beast. It’s not that long ago under Saunders we were getting 17,000, it looked and felt awful then, imagine how it would be if it happened again and the stadium held 40k plus?

Like saying, I don't ride my bicycle, because I might get a puncture.

 

[Wolf of Salop]

Back in the day, when 2 sides of the ground was closed. Why couldn’t a small amount of work on the north bank have made it usable? Even if they had removed all the roofing and just had it open air terracing for away fans??
I remember going away to one of the Bristol teams and we were behind a goal with no roof…

Swindon too

 

[dewolfman]

I'm 52....soon to be 53....

I know that I'm naïve
Fellows I meet may tell me I'm sweet
And willingly I believe...

 

[JohnB]

Swindon too

Loads of other places - Boro, Newcastle, Sunderland, Bolton in early 90s.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Went to quite a few away games with no roof on the terrace, great when the sun's shining....
Love an away end with a low roof, Peterborough away springs to mind.

 

[Darvo]

Maybe this thread should be re-titled ‘Stadium pipe dreams’?

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Loads of other places - Boro, Newcastle, Sunderland, Bolton in early 90s.

Yep, I’ve stood at St James in the rain… watching us win

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

There are no plans to develop Molineux. There never were and are unlikely to be in our lifetimes. So could we please change the thread title to 'New stadium - a pipe dream'.

 

[chignalwolf]

Trouble is football is a fast moving beast. It’s not that long ago under Saunders we were getting 17,000, it looked and felt awful then, imagine how it would be if it happened again and the stadium held 40k plus?

Good post SBK and very true, although a bigger ground would see a steady increase in the die hard fans, so a 50k ground would probably drop to around 30/35k.
think to progress to the next level we need a stadium holding up to 55/60k. West Ham were lucky to near enough been given a new Stadium, they a good example,

PS Cant see it happening anytime soon,

 

[Kebab Warrior]

There are no plans to develop Molineux. There never were and are unlikely to be in our lifetimes. So could we please change the thread title to 'New stadium - a pipe dream'.

Could we paint it. Hell I’ll have a go if someone passes me a tin and a brush.

Maybe we could arrange a charity painting day and shame the club into it?

 

[Timberwolf]

Decent player turnover is the priority over a new stadium or new stands, to create revenue. That said, Fosun should be planning on improving what we’ve got. Everything still seems so 1995.

 

[Mardenboroughs Shoulder]

There are no plans to develop Molineux. There never were and are unlikely to be in our lifetimes. So could we please change the thread title to 'New stadium - a pipe dream'.

More chance of me waking up next to Margot Robbie!

 

[Kebab Warrior]

More chance of me waking up next to Margot Robbie!

Margot? Grab a brush bag we’ve got painting to do!

 

[goldeneyed]

I don't blame Fosun for prioritising the first team, that seems the wisest course if we are to establish ourselves more comfortably in the Premier League. But taking a five year view surely they have to modernise and expand the stadium even in a relatively modest way. Many of us agree that a 40,000 seat stadium is sustainable and sensible and while the ROI may be unattractive in many ways you can't go on on forever neglecting a stadium. A measured approach should surely be possible - noone expects Spurs -like super stadiums. But a relatively successful Wolves Premier league team should be capable of filling an up to date 40,000 capacity stadium more often than not.

 

[Immigration wolf]

Swindon too

That was probably Bristol Rovers, they played at Bath for a while, I went there too, nil-nil I think

 

[Bradstonian]

Loads of other places - Boro, Newcastle, Sunderland, Bolton in early 90s.

Chesterfield in the pouring rain.

 

[Lou Pine]

Loads of other places - Boro, Newcastle, Sunderland, Bolton in early 90s.

I’m sure Albion took the roof off the Smethwick End as well. It was there for the Bully and Hindmarch games but not when we lost 3-2. I think there was talk that clubs paid less tax if a structure didn’t have a roof.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

Maybe this thread should be re-titled ‘Stadium pipe dreams’?

I have said before I would rename the thread no stadium plans

 

[Hanbury_Wolf]

If we were to redevelop the stadium, I think there’d be loads more corporate facilities in any new stands. That’s where your money comes really. There are some good accounts on social media who show corporate facilities at clubs, even clubs in Leagues 1 and 2 are charging £200-£250 per person per game for a three course meal, padded seats, meeting an ex-player and having access to a bar.

I've never understood the maths on this

A corporate ticket at the prices above is about 5x a normal match ticket. It takes up way more space and you have to have additional staff to serve their needs. Even if it works out slightly better economically for the club, it can only be marginal.