Portuguese, Portuguese, Portuguese……

[Michellis]

Sorry to be thick.
Can someone just explain to me this Portuguese stranglehold at WWFC …..

 

[Supadavewolf]

Sorry to be thick.
Can someone just explain to me this Portuguese stranglehold at WWFC …..

We've signed a lot of Portuguese.

That help?

 

[thetwistedsock]

Best years I've known. Keep em coming.

 

[SuperGran]

What nationality is mendes?


To be fair we’ve had including jackett 5 managers under fosun
3 non Portuguese and 2 Portuguese

What difference does it make

 

[WickedWolfie]

Sorry to be thick.
Can someone just explain to me this Portuguese stranglehold at WWFC …..

We haven't yet signed enough Portuguese???

 

[Wolf 82]

Their talent is better and cheaper than English.. our main facilitator is Portuguese.. most our squad speaks it. Hope that helps

 

[DanishWolf]

Zenga and Lambert werent Portuguese...
That went well..

 

[Berlin Wolf]

We haven't yet signed enough Portuguese???

Pedro Martins looks favourite to take over from Bruno, he's Portuguese too.

 

[OLDGOLD]

I have no bother with any nationality playing or managing. My only bother is that I am fed up with negative football and it does seem to be a bit of a Portuguese thing currently.

 

[old wittonian]

What nationality is mendes?


To be fair we’ve had including jackett 5 managers under fosun
3 non Portuguese and 2 Portuguese

What difference does it make

Allegedly can't play Leeds on a cold November night.

 

[old wittonian]

Their talent is better and cheaper than English.. our main facilitator is Portuguese.. most our squad speaks it. Hope that helps

Must confuse the officials and the opposition.

 

[ombyman]

I think we need someone non-portugeause to mix it up. One part of this is how much respect a relatively young Portuguese manager gets/seeks in the presence of a Portuguese legend (Mouts). Even if Mouts is golden, it still may be a strange dynamic.

The only Portuguese manager I want now is a duff and robben era Mourinho.

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Fosun have an interest in Gestifute, Gestifute in turn have an interest in Wolves. Gestifute are headed up by the biggest agent in Football, the bulk of whose client base is Portuguese, which provides us access to names we wouldn't ordinarily be able to attract.

Pedro Martins, Bruno Lage and Carlos Carvahal aren't on that list though.

 

[Golden Arrow]

Crikey, I go back to the days when clubs were represented just by England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland or ROI.
Occasionally a South African would come along and give you something to conjur with, often sending you into a Geography book to look at the atlas.

I don't have a problem with things as they are tbh just as long as there's no bias towards certain players who happen to be of the same nationality.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

I look at it like this:

Before we signed loads of Portuguese players we were ****

After we signed loads of Portuguese players, we got good.

Long live the Portugeezers (just without that lemon who managed them this season)

 

[Michellis]

Fosun have an interest in Gestifute, Gestifute in turn have an interest in Wolves. Gestifute are headed up by the biggest agent in Football, the bulk of whose client base is Portuguese, which provides us access to names we wouldn't ordinarily be able to attract.

Pedro Martins, Bruno Lage and Carlos Carvahal aren't on that list though.

Thanks Adrian for your sensible answer.
That has made the position clearer to me.

 

[old wittonian]

Fosun have an interest in Gestifute, Gestifute in turn have an interest in Wolves. Gestifute are headed up by the biggest agent in Football, the bulk of whose client base is Portuguese, which provides us access to names we wouldn't ordinarily be able to attract.

Pedro Martins, Bruno Lage and Carlos Carvahal aren't on that list though.

Bruno Lage is widely reported to have Gestifute as his agent.

 

[so-called fan]

Fosun have an interest in Gestifute, Gestifute in turn have an interest in Wolves. Gestifute are headed up by the biggest agent in Football, the bulk of whose client base is Portuguese, which provides us access to names we wouldn't ordinarily be able to attract.

Pedro Martins, Bruno Lage and Carlos Carvahal aren't on that list though.

I'm confused by that last bit. Are they not clients of Mendes?

 

[SuperGran]

I'm confused by that last bit. Are they not clients of Mendes?

I think he means they are not on the list of names we wouldn’t attract without mendes not that they are not mendes clients

 

[old wittonian]

I think he means they are not on the list of names we wouldn’t attract without mendes not that they are not mendes clients

Martins and Carvalhal are not Gestifute clients.

 

[so-called fan]

Martins and Carvalhal are not Gestifute clients.

Oh right, thanks, that's interesting. I wonder if that rules them out.

 

[SuperGran]

Martins and Carvalhal are not Gestifute clients.

Oh ok thanks

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Posted elsewhere, but of the likely candidates only Conceicao is represented by Gestifute

Gestifute - Player agency - Player Agents

This site is the agency site of Gestifute, giving an overview of all players who work with Gestifute.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

 

[tamwolf]

Personally, I'm not sure I want to have another Portuguese manager as they all seem to play negative football.

 

[jrpb-3]

Not all signings etc are Mendes /Gestifute clients. But Mendes has all the contacts and knows who to talk to to get access to other players, a good word from him can help get things moving with other signings too.

 

[jrpb-3]

Fosun have an interest in Gestifute, Gestifute in turn have an interest in Wolves. Gestifute are headed up by the biggest agent in Football, the bulk of whose client base is Portuguese, which provides us access to names we wouldn't ordinarily be able to attract.

Pedro Martins, Bruno Lage and Carlos Carvahal aren't on that list though.

Isn't it Fosun Chairman Guo Guangchang that has the interest in Gestifute and not Fosun directly as that would be a conflict of interests and not allowed (was all looked into when Fosun took over). Guo is a friend of Mendes and so as on Good terms Fosun/Wolves have a good relationship with Mendes and and get advice on players etc.

Gestifute have no direct commercial interest in Wolves/Fosun other than through Guo

 

[WickedWolfie]

Posted elsewhere, but of the likely candidates only Conceicao is represented by Gestifute

Gestifute - Player agency - Player Agents

This site is the agency site of Gestifute, giving an overview of all players who work with Gestifute.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

Not quite that simple though. Lopetegui is represented by Carlos Bucero. Three guesses who Bucero is heavily linked to....

A clue from our recent past....

Mendes, Bucero, and quadrupling offer: Marca explain how Wolves beat Real Madrid to Rafa Mir - Sport Witness

Tuesday’s revelation from Super Deporte that Rafa Mir is on his way to Wolves was a genuine shock. For months Mir has been edged towards a Real Madrid move, with not such much a mention of Wolves. The 20 year old’s contract expires in June and Valencia had become annoyed that he wasn’t extending, so

sportwitness.co.uk

 

[MasWolf]

Their talent is better and cheaper than English.. our main facilitator is Portuguese.. most our squad speaks it. Hope that helps

Not to mention that the young lads we have don't seem to be out on the **** every weekend. Culturally they seem a lot more mature than British players which is a great thing for us!

 

[Frank Lincoln]

I’m waiting for the day our starting eleven is exclusively Portuguese…

 

[Adrian_Monk]

I think he means they are not on the list of names we wouldn’t attract without mendes not that they are not mendes clients

That's exactly what I meant

 

[SuperGran]

I’m waiting for the day our starting eleven is exclusively Portuguese…

Are you out of hospital Frank

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Personally, I'm not sure I want to have another Portuguese manager as they all seem to play negative football.

I think that's more down to the individuals than it being a national trait!

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Are you out of hospital Frank

I've been reading between the lines, I think the doctors want to get him out, but his wife is refusing to take him.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I've been reading between the lines, I think the doctors want to get him out, but his wife is refusing to take him.

She thinks that he needs additional checks.... The next 20 years should do that..... lol

 

[Stourport wolf]

I've been reading between the lines, I think the doctors want to get him out, but his wife is refusing to take him.

Something to do with his jokes?

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Are you out of hospital Frank

Not yet, should be in next couple of days.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Not yet, should be in next couple of days.

Didn’t know you were in mate, hope you’re on the mend!!

 

[Andywolf74]

I totally agree that the Portuguese players have created a team we could only dream of in the Morgan and dare I say it Sir Jack era.
However, we also have been backed financially in a way we could have only dreamt of six or so years ago.
Nuno bought a counter attacking style of play that was fresh we were first got promoted but in the mega tough world of the Premier League our inability to evolve meant the same team and tactics started to go backwards.
If our next Manager is Portuguese has us challenging back in the top half of the table then great but to do this I think they need to make some decisions and move on some players who are too similar in playing style to others.
For me, we absolutely need some pace and quick feet.

 

[JonahWolf]

Their talent is better and cheaper than English.. our main facilitator is Portuguese.. most our squad speaks it. Hope that helps

And if you weren’t sure on the first bit, remember how much Forest stumped up for MGW.
Now compare him to say, Jota. The Jota that had some champions league experience, bought for 12m. Who was even better than MGW in his standout championship campaign.
12 million. Morgan went for a minimum £27m.

That’s why we do business there. Then you have Jorge, who also likes doing business there.
Because there are a number of clubs with incredible talent factories, usually teetering on the brink of a financial crisis, allow 3rd party ownership and other dodgy deals…it’s a super-agent playground.

That help?

 

[inaglasshouse]

If we had just had two British would we cry out for a non Brit?
Its clearly the way Fosun work, setting out a long term strategy of agent, coach and staff sharing a common culture. That culture speaks Portuguese but is also able to communicate well in English so as not to exclude the home grown players and alienate the fans.
Having babled all that out, I wish we would be bold and get in Tummy Tuchel to mix it up big time.