Petition to stop VAR

[Stourwolf]

Hoping they keep VAR but reform the way it is used

Prefer to keep goal line technology and maybe var for offside ! The rest get rid ! No enjoyment going to games now.

 

[Spitfire]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

It’s a complete **** show. Utter ****ing nonsense .

 

[JadeWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

This is why they don’t want to release the audio. Because if every decision is like this, it will show them up for the disorganised rabble they are. What absolute nonsense that is. So many voices talking about so many different things all at once.

 

[Arcadius]

Signed!

 

[WinchWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

The offside was so close they should have just given the goal, as soon as they said that it was extremely tight they should have just said goal. I have always been in the bin it camp. I hate it with a passion.

 

[loppers86]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

I don’t watch games that don’t involve wolves in the premier league - so every time i see a var error i get wound up.

watching that without the emotion is incredible.

i just don’t know how anyone at all could think that 6 minute analysis of a 10 second passage of play is anything short of disastrous for the game. There are hundreds of clips of this sort of rubbish already and it seems to be getting more frequent and more outlandish every week.

Words can’t describe it, it’s ludicrous- whatever happened to clear and obvious and not refereeing the game?

i think fans gave it the benefit of the doubt for a while, but it’s now got so ridiculous that pretty much everyone is starting to realise how bad it is.

I’m not going to any more games with VAR and I’m not watching on TV either. I refuse to pay for football on TV if this is the sort of think my money ends up supporting.

Actually, now i come to think of it - that’s the protest - if everyone cancels sky and bt sport citing VAR then it would soon disappear.

molineux here I come!

 

[Contrarian]

The offside was so close they should have just given the goal, as soon as they said that it was extremely tight they should have just said goal

Agree with this 100%

I thought this coverage is fascinating as it shows VAR actually working! It sounds somewhat disorganised, but how else could it be? These are 3 very tight incidents. For 50 years now, we've seen TV pundits spend several minutes watching and debating such decisions. And still they can't agree! I just don't see how it is possible to get decisions quickly by watching the video. The speed of line drawing and getting the correct frames was actually quite fast.

And as for "VAR will not referee the game", that clip disproves that. The VAR people sound in control. The ref is waiting for their final decision. "Wait Oli, we've got a few checks make..the offside is really tight so YOU have to wait... ". On field ref and assistants clearly don't count, then. If it's that tight, it should be a goal , it's that simple. For those who say offside is fine for VAR as it either is or isnt - did you see that the ball has moved several inches between the 2 consecutive frames? And is it worth taking this long to check that someone isn't offside by a few millimeters?

The point is that this will always be the cost of trying to be 100% sure the on field ref has got it right. All this effort, time and money , just to get a few decisions correct to the millimetre. And the punchline is that even VAR still can't get a consensus on subjective decisions anyway.

 

[The Clock]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Are you happy with that?
Are you happy with that?
Are you happy with that?
Arbitrary
Arbitrary
Arbitrary
Nothing to do with any accuracy there
Just an opinion.
Are you happy with that?
Shall I draw it here or shall I move it a bit to one side.
WTF.
Football
Joke.
Are you happy with that?

 

[Wonder Boyo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

They don't have a scooby about in which frame the pass was actually made. "Frame 2? Frame 3? Let's go with frame two." Total and utter guess work.

 

[surreywolf]

They don't have a scooby about in which frame the pass was actually made. "Frame 2? Frame 3? Let's go with frame two." Total and utter guess work.

Absolutely

I don’t have it to hand but a cov city fan posted a screengrab of their disallowed goal against Man U, showing the very last moment when the ball left OHare foot

It clearly showed Wan Bissaka had run past the ‘offside’ Cov player and simply because VAR had gone with one frame not the next, one of the greatest football comebacks was cancelled

I can’t understand why more people aren’t protesting, it’s terrible

 

[Kford]

Pointless but have signed anyway

 

[Big Saft Kid]

"Reckless follow-through" ????? The defender gets the ball cleanly and his momentum takes him into the attacker, unavoidable. So he gives a penalty and a red card -- utter *******s. It's a contact sport played at speed. There was no recklessness, just momentum, and no intent, just part of the game. Incompetent clowns who have obviously never played football.

 

[Stafford]

We go to the games watched by 100s or millions across the world. We could make a much bigger statement than this if we really wanted to

 

[jackdusty]

Hoping they keep VAR but reform the way it is used

5 years they have been reforming it how long you going to give them?. You don't go to games do you John Albion Fan ?

 

[Spitfire]

They don't have a scooby about in which frame the pass was actually made. "Frame 2? Frame 3? Let's go with frame two." Total and utter guess work.

Not to mention the ball is a blur within the one frame.

 

[Munich_Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

Exactly, they're not even being deliberately obtuse about anything just trying their best to come to the correct decision but the amount of time it takes, the fact that both decisions should have gone the other way, and what it does to the spirit and essence of the game, there can be no justification for the continued use of VAR.....it will kill Football dead

 

[Contrarian]

"Reckless follow-through" ????? The defender gets the ball cleanly and his momentum takes him into the attacker, unavoidable. So he gives a penalty and a red card -- utter *******s. It's a contact sport played at speed. There was no recklessness, just momentum, and no intent, just part of the game. Incompetent clowns who have obviously never played football.

Yes, I thought that too. That one incident could have the experts sat round a table for 10 minutes while still not getting any consensus.

And the irony is that every single second of that VAR shambles is totally irrelevant because it's a goal. The offside is so marginal, who cares? No way was the point of the offside rule to prevent goals like that. Which makes the penalty incidents irrelevant too.

Presumably, pre-VAR, that would have been given - because assistant refs (rightly) gave benefit of the doubt to the attacker and that 5 minutes of VAR time wasting would never have happened. Surprised no players are mentioning the loss of momentum in a game when many matches have 3+ minute VAR delays.

Again, not sure I made it clear, but I think the nature of football is that these are subjective decisions and I don't know how else they could be. If you had as good as humanly possible referee in that VAR room, he is still going to be asking for replays from different angles, he still can't be sure of intent, he is still going to be mulling over which way a close decision should go. It's the nature of it. And he is still going to find that others will disagree with his decision.

 

[VancouverWolf]

We need to try to build a campaign. Get involved on social media; contact everyone, repeatedly; message other fans forums. Sing It's not football anymore when var intervenes. Let's give it a go.

I nominate you to be the leader………it’s going to need one.

 

[TheWolfFromWolverhampton]

I've made one with 196 signatures. Been going since November.

Sign the Petition

Howard Webb: Make serious changes to the PGMOL, the refs, and VAR to lessen errors

www.change.org

 

[berwickwolf]

I nominate you to be the leader………it’s going to need one.

I've started, written to Lineker, Wright, Paddy Power, posted loads on Facebook. We need everyone to do the same. Very funny today, cheering then cheering again at the restart!

 

[Sammy Chungs Tracksuit]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

And meanwhile these nerds think they are doing a good job by surgically going through this ****.
They are not advising the ref they are telling the ref what to do. Bin off these idiots.
Clear and obvious my ****. Just a bunch of ****ers on a power trip.

 

[Scallywolf]

Just seen Burnley’s penalty awarded today for a foul by Yaniteds goalkeeper, Onana.

Absolute carbon copy of the Onana foul on Sasa in our first game of the season. I beg anybody to differ and we know what happened after that game with the apology from PGMOL.

That just proves the futility of VAR imo.

A petition to stop VAR would be great, but why not have placards held up by fans at every match instead? That would certainly bring it to the attention the Premier League bigwigs, wouldn’t it.

 

[CelebrityWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783649226875977890

Who wants this?

I would rather on field decisions be wrong than this. Even after all that line drawing, for me it’s neither a pen or offside.

As it’s been said a thousand times, the game has survived this long because of singular moments of ecstasy. It’s a low scoring, contact sport. Take those elements away and there’s nothing left.

****ing boring.

Wow, a little bit lost for words after watching that. What an absolute ****ing mess. First off, why bother checking the offside if the foul precedes it? But more importantly, does every decision have to go over every part of the bloody games. I thought the initial point was to clear up clear and obvious error? Drawing lines and watching frames again and again isn't clear and obvious is it?

 

[Pagey]

When we scored today I found our response with the build up to kicking the game off again was more effective than anything a petition would achieve. Imagine something like that on a grander scale in front of the camera's.

 

[Bigcheese]

Just seen Burnley’s penalty awarded today for a foul by Yaniteds goalkeeper, Onana.

Absolute carbon copy of the Onana foul on Sasa in our first game of the season. I beg anybody to differ and we know what happened after that game with the apology from PGMOL.

That just proves the futility of VAR imo.

A petition to stop VAR would be great, but why not have placards held up by fans at every match instead? That would certainly bring it to the attention the Premier League bigwigs, wouldn’t it.

Why not do both?

 

[Pagey]

That video made me realise how familiar the top teams players are to referees, they sounded like kids with their mates on the playground. "Sonny" ffs.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Just seen Burnley’s penalty awarded today for a foul by Yaniteds goalkeeper, Onana.

Absolute carbon copy of the Onana foul on Sasa in our first game of the season. I beg anybody to differ and we know what happened after that game with the apology from PGMOL.

That just proves the futility of VAR imo.

A petition to stop VAR would be great, but why not have placards held up by fans at every match instead? That would certainly bring it to the attention the Premier League bigwigs, wouldn’t it.

To be fair, two wrongs don't make a right.

They ****ed up against us (surprise surprise) but as you say today was the exact same incident but pleasingly they got it correct.

 

[Scallywolf]

To be fair, two wrongs don't make a right.

They ****ed up against us (surprise surprise) but as you say today was the exact same incident but pleasingly they got it correct.

It shouldn’t be like that though, should it. Are you saying the decision against us was wrong and the decision for Burnley was right, or vice versa?

VAR (I thought) was introduced to introduce fairness and consistency. The decision for Burnley today totally disproves that.

How can it be trusted?

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

It shouldn’t be like that though, should it. Are you saying the decision against us was wrong and the decision for Burnley was right, or vice versa?

VAR (I thought) was introduced to introduce fairness and consistency. The decision for Burnley today totally disproves that.

How can it be trusted?

I'm saying the decision against us was wrong. It was a clear penalty.

Just because they got that one wrong, doesn't mean they should get another wrong.

 

[Incognito]

See they gave Burnley a pen today against United. Exactly the same scenario as Onana on Sasa!

 

[Scallywolf]

See they gave Burnley a pen today against United. Exactly the same scenario as Onana on Sasa!
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It was mentioned on Soccer Saturday on Sky this afternoon.

Mike Dean was asked why a penalty was given to Burnley and not to us. He said because the officials made a right ricket in our match.

Yes, Mike ******* Dean actually stuck up for us!

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

It was mentioned on Soccer Saturday on Sky this afternoon.

Mike Dean was asked why a penalty was given to Burnley and not to us. He said because the officials made a right ricket in our match.

Yes, Mike ******* Dean actually stuck up for us!

Did they ask him about the pogba foul on Neves?

 

[Sussex Wolf]

It was mentioned on Soccer Saturday on Sky this afternoon.

Mike Dean was asked why a penalty was given to Burnley and not to us. He said because the officials made a right ricket in our match.

Yes, Mike ******* Dean actually stuck up for us!

One of many right rickets in our matches this season. Funny how they almost always go against us rather than for us…

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

I wonder if we should be pressuring our club to vote against it. If we can get enough clubs on board with binning it, then that’s our best bet.

 

[Big Saft Kid]

Just seen Burnley’s penalty awarded today for a foul by Yaniteds goalkeeper, Onana.

Absolute carbon copy of the Onana foul on Sasa in our first game of the season. I beg anybody to differ and we know what happened after that game with the apology from PGMOL.

That just proves the futility of VAR imo.

A petition to stop VAR would be great, but why not have placards held up by fans at every match instead? That would certainly bring it to the attention the Premier League bigwigs, wouldn’t it.

100%. I was watching MoTD and I couldn't believe what I saw. Onana charges out and polaxes the opposition player with his flailing elbow, getting nowhere near the ball and it's immediately and correctly given as a penalty. Exactly what he did to Shasa on the opening day of the season, even in the same minute of the game, about a minute from FT. Not given in our case. The inconsistency is absolutely staggering. **** VAR and **** these utterly clueless referees.

 

[Big Saft Kid]

To be fair, two wrongs don't make a right.

They ****ed up against us (surprise surprise) but as you say today was the exact same incident but pleasingly they got it correct.

What planet do you live on? Keep digging...

 

[JadeWolf]

MOTD pundits not happy with VAR again after the Villa Chelsea game. “Get rid of it” says Ian Wright. Meanwhile Neville and Carragher will keep sticking up for their mate Webb.

 

[topcat99]

Just seen Burnley’s penalty awarded today for a foul by Yaniteds goalkeeper, Onana.

Absolute carbon copy of the Onana foul on Sasa in our first game of the season. I beg anybody to differ and we know what happened after that game with the apology from PGMOL.

That just proves the futility of VAR imo.

A petition to stop VAR would be great, but why not have placards held up by fans at every match instead? That would certainly bring it to the attention the Premier League bigwigs, wouldn’t it.

That penalty had me fuming. Yes , I’m glad it went against United, but the incident with Sasa was identical.

Difference is that the referee went to the monitor

 

[Madmalc]

I think we all realise there's too much money in VAR for them to get rid of it..

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

What planet do you live on? Keep digging...

Eh?

This isn't really relevant to VAR.

What do you want from this? Wolves were cheated, so Burnley should be cheated as well.

That's not how it works. They made a mistake by not giving us a penalty. They apologised. They didn't make that mistake again when basically the same incident happened, which is good.