Penny for Nuno’s thoughts

[Parkfieldswolf]

After seeing Sevilla dominate us in the Europa last season it was reported Nuno wanted a more possession based game. I wonder what his thoughts are tonight after watching us barely have a quarter of the ball? It looks like his earlier evolution has been replaced by pragmatism but I wonder what is Nuno’s football philosophy? I understand he has to play to his players strengths and this may be restraining him from implementing his ideas. Will he demand the players he needs in the summer? My real concern is Nuno’s personal relationship with Mendes which I feel has clouded his judgement when agreeing to players from the Mendes stable. Can Nuno produce a new project and persuade Mendes to encourage some of his better players to kick start it in the summer? I really hope so because I do support Nuno but I do think we have regressed this season. A shot in the arm over the summer please Nuno,Jeff & Jorge.

 

[jonesy]

After seeing Sevilla dominate us in the Europa last season it was reported Nuno wanted a more possession based game. I wonder what his thoughts are tonight after watching us barely have a quarter of the ball? It looks like his earlier evolution has been replaced by pragmatism but I wonder what is Nuno’s football philosophy? I understand he has to play to his players strengths and this may be restraining him from implementing his ideas. Will he demand the players he needs in the summer? My real concern is Nuno’s personal relationship with Mendes which I feel has clouded his judgement when agreeing to players from the Mendes stable. Can Nuno produce a new project and persuade Mendes to encourage some of his better players to kick start it in the summer? I really hope so because I do support Nuno but I do think we have regressed this season. A shot in the arm over the summer please Nuno,Jeff & Jorge.

No he is a counter attacking defend first manager who is good at it. He has never to the best of my knowledge been a possession based manager ever.

 

[Deleted member yltz11841]

After seeing Sevilla dominate us in the Europa last season it was reported Nuno wanted a more possession based game. I wonder what his thoughts are tonight after watching us barely have a quarter of the ball? It looks like his earlier evolution has been replaced by pragmatism but I wonder what is Nuno’s football philosophy? I understand he has to play to his players strengths and this may be restraining him from implementing his ideas. Will he demand the players he needs in the summer? My real concern is Nuno’s personal relationship with Mendes which I feel has clouded his judgement when agreeing to players from the Mendes stable. Can Nuno produce a new project and persuade Mendes to encourage some of his better players to kick start it in the summer? I really hope so because I do support Nuno but I do think we have regressed this season. A shot in the arm over the summer please Nuno,Jeff & Jorge.

I think no amount of money will change how Nuno plays regardless of personnel.
That’s not to say he’s bad or I am ungrateful but it’s surely a hindrance to progression if Fosun’s stated aims are actually true.

 

[wwbug]

Nuno, has built a great base camp. I would imagine fans are split on whether he can do more.
Penny for Fosuns thoughts !

 

[Tony]

I don't think Nuno wants his losing record damaged any further. I don't think Fosun want to be feeding a dying duck. We're doomed!

 

[Tipton Wolves]

We wont progress at all with him. 7th is the ceiling. Id take a look at what new ideas are out there in the summer. Dont get upset by this post btw, just an honest opinion to move forwards.

 

[Deleted member 8913]

Nuno would charge a lot more than a penny..he keeps his thoughts private...he never criticizes his players or his employers .

but he knows you that you can’t establish a team without the budget and we cannot (yet ) compete with the big six.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

We wont progress at all with him. 7th is the ceiling. Id take a look at what new ideas are out there in the summer. Dont get upset by this post btw, just an honest opinion to move forwards.

To be fair - 7th is a pretty good ceiling! We nee something new though, for sure. We have gone stale, need to evolve as a team.

 

[Chris H]

Is Man City away in their best ever run of form really a good yard stick to judge that by?

Sure judge it by all means, but maybe choose a different opponent and game as your basis for the level of our possession than this one.

 

[Deleted member 4184]

I would reserve judgement until life has some sense of normality.

 

[wwbug]

I would take 10th if we played attractive football for 90 minutes.

 

[dewolfman]

Calm down man city **** on everyone

 

[wwbug]

I would reserve judgement until life has some sense of normality.

A post I have read on many occasions this year. It’s true but it’s had to be posted too often.

 

[Deleted member 8123]

So stale i can see

To be fair - 7th is a pretty good ceiling! We nee something new though, for sure. We have gone stale, need to evolve as a team.

Bits of blue mould.
Completely unpalatable.

 

[Joshwolf218]

It will take millions upon millions spent whatever way it's made to get to top 6 level, there's a reason they are all there and without continued investment nuno or any other manager can only do

Fosuns project of 10 years unrealistic but continued spending as they are doing is the only way to go forward

 

[Chris H]

A post I have read on many occasions this year. It’s true but it’s had to be posted too often.

Maybe it keeps being posted because people keep disregarding it?

 

[Golden_Wolf]

I would take 10th if we played attractive football for 90 minutes.

Given our defensive frailties this season, playing a more attacking way with who we have in our squad currently would probably see us closer to Brighton. Not sure I'd fancy that.

 

[John de Wolf's hairdryer]

I think no amount of money will change how Nuno plays regardless of personnel.
That’s not to say he’s bad or I am ungrateful but it’s surely a hindrance to progression if Fosun’s stated aims are actually true.

I think Fosun's stated aims were true 2016-18. The transfer windows since the end of the 2018-19 season have been somewhat underwhelming, although not as dreadful as some here make out. I think that the strategy has changed insofar as the financial resources are not there now for a quick march to the top. Personally, I suspect that this is because as a Chinese company Fosun are now being constrained from investing in a UK asset due to tensions between the Chinese Communist Party and the British Government that have greatly intensified over the last few years and remain strained. I don't think this was envisioned by either Fosun or Nuno back in 2017.

 

[marrs-guitar]

This season is bad barometer for the club and Nuno. The lack of summer break, the freak long-term injury to our best player, the lack of crowds (and accompanying income) have all worked against us.

I just hope we survive in the league and in as creditable a position as possible to make us as attractive as possible to new recruits in the summer.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

So stale i can see


Bits of blue mould.
Completely unpalatable.

I wouldn't say it's 'completely unpalatable' but we are very very predictable as a team now:

We will concede the first goal, come back strongly.
We will keep it tight at the back
We will try and break with wingers, using a big focal point striker.
We will play a lot of diagonal balls.

Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing - Man City are predictable. They will pass it around the box and probe probe probe.

It's just a bit easy to read.

 

[wwbug]

Calm down man city **** on everyone

Understood , and of course we have beaten them many times , but we seem so negative in many matches .

 

[wwbug]

Maybe it keeps being posted because people keep disregarding it?

Slightly arrogant. Looks, it’s Man City 2021 , we get that , but our style of play was similar against every team in the bottom six. That’s why the posts keep coming.

 

[wwbug]

Given our defensive frailties this season, playing a more attacking way with who we have in our squad currently would probably see us closer to Brighton. Not sure I'd fancy that.

Sure , but I am not talking about the same personal.

 

[KBWWFC]

Is Man City away in their best ever run of form really a good yard stick to judge that by?

Sure judge it by all means, but maybe choose a different opponent and game as your basis for the level of our possession than this one.

I think the fact that we've gone over a whole calendar year without putting in a decent performance for an entire 90 minutes speaks for itself.

 

[Parkfieldswolf]

We wont progress at all with him. 7th is the ceiling. Id take a look at what new ideas are out there in the summer. Dont get upset by this post btw, just an honest opinion to move forwards.

I’m not going to get upset if that’s your opinion then I may not fully agree with it but you may have a point that is proved in the future sometime. For the present I don’t believe this is Nuno’s vision of how he wants his team to play. I think if Fosun believe in him they need to support him and at the same time tell Mendes the direction the club wants to go in and get him on board instead of him using us as a vehicle to peddle his players around.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

Sure , but I am not talking about the same personal.

Then maybe when the players are here, its probably a more valid conversation. A better defence & midfield will allow our more attacking players more chance to show what they can do.

There's potential to play more attractive football & be successful with it. That hopefully is addressed over the summer.

 

[Pompey Wolf]

We wont progress at all with him. 7th is the ceiling. Id take a look at what new ideas are out there in the summer. Dont get upset by this post btw, just an honest opinion to move forwards.

If 7th is ‘The ceiling’ how come we were a Mike Dean ‘decision’ from coming 6th last season.
I think the time to judge will be next season when we won’t be starting again after a 3 week break following a 59 game marathon.

 

[Deleted member yltz11841]

Is Man City away in their best ever run of form really a good yard stick to judge that by?

Sure judge it by all means, but maybe choose a different opponent and game as your basis for the level of our possession than this one.

I think Fosun's stated aims were true 2016-18. The transfer windows since the end of the 2018-19 season have been somewhat underwhelming, although not as dreadful as some here make out. I think that the strategy has changed insofar as the financial resources are not there now for a quick march to the top. Personally, I suspect that this is because as a Chinese company Fosun are now being constrained from investing in a UK asset due to tensions between the Chinese Communist Party and the British Government that have greatly intensified over the last few years and remain strained. I don't think this was envisioned by either Fosun or Nuno back in 2017.

Should come out and state a new aim etc then expectations could be dampened. If we are to just tread water then the way we play is ok for the aim. Not exciting at all as it’s so predictable currently but will get enough points to probably stay in the league and keep the tv money coming in.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

I think the fact that we've gone over a whole calendar year without putting in a decent performance for an entire 90 minutes speaks for itself.

That is quite galling actually! I can't remember the last excellent 90 minute performance... Maybe Everton at Home when we won 3-0 (although Everton clearly didn't care a lot about that game).

West Ham at home, 2-0, before that?

Maybe Palace at home this season?

 

[Chris H]

No that’s not the reason.

Is it not?

I appreciate that we’re a fair way though the season now and you’d expect us to have adapted to the current situation but does our improved form and results not show that that is the case to some extent?

The issues surrounding this season are still there now and haven’t changed for us. Lack of crowds, current lockdown restrictions hindering the squads ability to retain that close knit bond socialising away from the training ground, an injury to our most important player. All of those things remain issues now as much as they have been for a while. So maybe it does still warrant consideration.

 

[Leigh72]

A big summer awaits

 

[Golden_Wolf]

I think the fact that we've gone over a whole calendar year without putting in a decent performance for an entire 90 minutes speaks for itself.

Palace at home was pretty good over the 90 minutes. Sheff United away? Arsenal away? Spurs away last year no?

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

I think Fosun's stated aims were true 2016-18. The transfer windows since the end of the 2018-19 season have been somewhat underwhelming, although not as dreadful as some here make out. I think that the strategy has changed insofar as the financial resources are not there now for a quick march to the top. Personally, I suspect that this is because as a Chinese company Fosun are now being constrained from investing in a UK asset due to tensions between the Chinese Communist Party and the British Government that have greatly intensified over the last few years and remain strained. I don't think this was envisioned by either Fosun or Nuno back in 2017.

Very good post.

I'm not an authority on Chinese politics, but I know enough to know that if the state suggests a line of action, it is treated like an imperative command

And with the state ostensibly losing interest in foreign investment in football, the Chinese owned foreign clubs are (probably) going to suffer

 

[maws]

I think the fact that we've gone over a whole calendar year without putting in a decent performance for an entire 90 minutes speaks for itself.

Spurs H
Saints H
Palace H twice
Everton H (that was complete domination in fact)

Funnily we are better at home these days

 

[wwbug]

Is it not?

I appreciate that we’re a fair way though the season now and you’d expect us to have adapted to the current situation but does our improved form and results not show that that is the case to some extent?

The issues surrounding this season are still there now and haven’t changed for us. Lack of crowds, current lockdown restrictions hindering the squads ability to retain that close knit bond socialising away from the training ground, an injury to our most important player. All of those things remain issues now as much as they have been for a while. So maybe it does still warrant consideration.

Then why do West Ham, Leeds, Aston Villa show a joy in playing and many others ? Doesn’t Pep have the same life problems ?
I know it’s tough on the manager but we can’t watch slow , defensive football and just excuse it with universal problems.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

With the break we've got coming up I feel and hope Nuno can get them drilled into a back 4 if that's on his long term plans

 

[Tipton Wolves]

Spurs H
Saints H
Palace H twice
Everton H (that was complete domination in fact)

Funnily we are better at home these days

A lot of draws in there. If we are playing extremely well and only drawing, that is an issue in its own right.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

Spurs H
Saints H
Palace H twice
Everton H (that was complete domination in fact)

Funnily we are better at home these days

Knew I forgot one after the restart.

 

[maws]

A lot of draws in there. If we are playing extremely well and only drawing, that is an issue in its own right.

I agree, though we’ve also won when not playing well so that’s always considered a good thing

 

[WW1963]

Would Pep improve Wolves and would Nuno improve Man City?