Ki Hoever - potential CM?

[PM Wolves]

Looking at his attributes he has strength, size, pace, tackling and seems poised and comfortable on the ball....perfect midfield material??

Doesn't seem to fit at either right back and not ready for centre back, in my opinion he could be a great holding midfielder with a playmaker ala Neves or Palhinha next to him.

Just a thought....

 

[Nige100]

No for me. What we need in midfield is a midfielder.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

I think this may be where he ends up. At Liverpool he’s played at the back and in the middle on the right. I think he said he likes playing further forward but is happy to play at the back and develop that aspect of his game, if the club wants that.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

No for me. What we need in midfield is a midfielder.

He has played both in the past at Liverpool

 

[hollo]

He is 6'1 and.can play at centre back.

 

[those were the days]

Looking at his attributes he has strength, size, pace, tackling and seems poised and comfortable on the ball....perfect midfield material??

Doesn't seem to fit at either right back and not ready for centre back, in my opinion he could be a great holding midfielder with a playmaker ala Neves or Palhinha next to him.

Just a thought....

Hoever's got potential for sure. However, to play that holding midfielder role well in the Prem you need excellent defensive positioning, really good technique so you can receive the ball under pressure and recycle well, solid tackling and a good range of passing. Neves ticks pretty much all of those boxes but I'm not sure Hoever ticks more than 2.

Reckon he'd benefit from a season out on loan to a good Championship side playing RCB which might also be where he's best suited long-term (not sure that's the position he wants to play though).

 

[reanswolf]

I think the lad has good potential, but not a CM for me.
Not too the required standard.
Its areal key specialist position.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

It’s a No from me

 

[Leominster_Wolf]

 

[Nige100]

He has played both in the past at Liverpool

Still not for me. I want my midfielders next year to be specialist midfielders.

 

[steve vena]

As long as we strengthen the midfield and defence as much as we can we could have a good season. Its important.

 

[Lisas Husband]

Not for me.
If that's something he wants to do then maybe address it somehow in a loan or play him there in a cup game against lower league opposition, but not for the first team league games.

He's still developing.

 

[Bacon Sandwich]

The thing I keep wondering is could Conor Coady make a move back into being a DM if we sign a new CH? Coady/Neves or Coady/Paulinha as Bruno's double pivot?

 

[OLDGOLD]

I think some of us over emphasise the differences between positions on occasion. Especially as he is a young lad still finding a way in the game, and Especially when we have the likes of Coady who moved positions more than adequately. I mean Pod wouldn't make a centre half, but there are the Dion Dublins and Chris Suttons out there.

 

[Supadavewolf]

I think some of us over emphasise the differences between positions on occasion. Especially as he is a young lad still finding a way in the game, and Especially when we have the likes of Coady who moved positions more than adequately. I mean Pod wouldn't make a centre half, but there are the Dion Dublins and Chris Suttons out there.

Yes, Dublin and Sutton both moved from being decent strikers to average broadcasters.

 

[Ponty]

Not seen enough of him to know what will be his best position. He looks a very composed player and hopefully will kick on this season wherever Lage uses him.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Still not for me. I want my midfielders next year to be specialist midfielders.

I’m not suggesting he immediately becomes our first choice DM either. But I think he may develop in that kind of position in the future.

More generally I think we need to accept that Bruno has likely been given the challenge of developing younger talent. As another poster commented, it may be that the club is, for now, less focused on Europe and more on developing talent while sustaining us upper mid table PL and growing our financial base. That’s not to say he might not over achieve like Nuno did in his first two seasons, but we should probably manage our expectations in the meantime.

 

[Snorbans Wolf]

I’m normally an optimist, but I have to say I’ve not seen anything in him that suggests he’s likely to be an answer anywhere on the pitch. Hope he proves me wrong, obviously.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Looking at his attributes he has strength, size, pace, tackling and seems poised and comfortable on the ball....perfect midfield material??

Doesn't seem to fit at either right back and not ready for centre back, in my opinion he could be a great holding midfielder with a playmaker ala Neves or Palhinha next to him.

Just a thought....

Palhinha is the opposite of a playmaker, pure defensive mid

 

[Axle]

Wasn’t Karl Henry a right back who became a DM?

 

[Pintandkebab]

I am not sure the lad is the answer at the moment to CD or RB . So converting him to a DM/CM then god knows .

If Sa doesn't work out we might need him between the sticks

 

[Minimalist]

Looking at his attributes he has strength, size, pace, tackling and seems poised and comfortable on the ball....perfect midfield material??

Doesn't seem to fit at either right back and not ready for centre back, in my opinion he could be a great holding midfielder with a playmaker ala Neves or Palhinha next to him.

Just a thought....

Not the worst idea, but I’d have him concentrate on the right back role. He and Semedo have that position well covered then.

 

[Deleted member 8123]

I’m normally an optimist, but I have to say I’ve not seen anything in him that suggests he’s likely to be an answer anywhere on the pitch. Hope he proves me wrong, obviously.

Agreed. File under:
Cutrone
Vitinha

 

[Ernie the Wolf]

Still not for me. I want my midfielders next year to be specialist midfielders.

I agree. We must move on from converting midfielders to defenders and vice versa. Need specialists in key positions.

 

[we love jez moxey]

I think coady will end up in midfield this season. Not saying it's what I want, but I can just see it.

 

[Halesowen wwfc]

I think coady will end up in midfield this season. Not saying it's what I want, but I can just see it.

I think they will try and mould him into the kalvin phillips type role. Both have a good pass on em, phillips has more pace about him though.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

How well dan he pass the ball? Play on the half turn? What is his vision like? Does he know how to change the pace of the game?

 

[AndyWolves]

I don't care where he plays as long as we don't ask him to cross a ball

 

[quirky_birky]

I think some of us over emphasise the differences between positions on occasion. Especially as he is a young lad still finding a way in the game, and Especially when we have the likes of Coady who moved positions more than adequately. I mean Pod wouldn't make a centre half, but there are the Dion Dublins and Chris Suttons out there.

Paul Warhurst too. Coady was a midfielder who moved to defence. Stephen Ward was a forward who moved to full back. Emblen was a centre back who moved pretty much wherever he was required. Mark Atkins was a midfielder who moved to the back. Pavarotti was a goalkeeper. We've seen Saiss and the Donk in midfield and defence, and even Traore has done a job at wing back (against Man City too!).

I'm not suggesting that we should play square pegs in round holes, but some players are more adaptable than others, and may actually be more suited to other roles than the ones they're known for, especially early on in their career. Didn't Hoddle play as sweeper for Swindon or did I imagine that?

Hoever in midfield? I've no idea if that would work, but it's not my job to find out, and there are far better qualified people than me to judge.

 

[whitnash wolf ex.dewsbury]

Yes, Dublin and Sutton both moved from being decent strikers to average broadcasters.

average?!

 

[Corporate Wolf]

The thing I keep wondering is could Conor Coady make a move back into being a DM if we sign a new CH? Coady/Neves or Coady/Paulinha as Bruno's double pivot?

Was thinking this myself. Coady's influence as a club captain is clear to see in some of the video clips and interviews. He's clearly a very popular Captain.

I'm fairly certain that Bruno will recognise that and will want Coady to stay (unless Nuno comes in for him). But I'm still not convinced that Coady is the answer to a CB in a flat back 4.

 

[Manic88]

No for me. What we need in midfield is a midfielder.

when Ki Hoever was born God sayeth “thou art a defender” and therefore so as it was written henceforth it shall be, Ki Hoever doth play at the back .

And even if like Sir Conner of Coady he findeth another position to play, and playeth over 100 games more in that position that his god given position - he shalt always be a rectangular peg in a circular hole. Under penalty of death.

 

[whitnash wolf ex.dewsbury]

when Ki Hoever was born God sayeth “thou art a defender” and therefore so as it was written henceforth it shall be, Ki Hoever doth play at the back .

And even if like Sir Conner of Coady he findeth another position to play, and playeth over 100 games more in that position that his god given position - he shalt always be a rectangular peg in a circular hole. Under penalty of death.

a lot of our defenders such Wright,Slater,Flowers ,Munro,Hughes and now Coady have
moved from mid-field to defence.struggling to think of many going the other way
Emblen maybe

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Not convincing at RB or RWB yet.. Never mind CM..

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[MotorWoden]

He looks like he needs pumping up a bit. His body language and demeanor suggest a lack of confidence, and that reflects in his game.

 

[Fifty Niner]

Looking at his attributes he has strength, size, pace, tackling and seems poised and comfortable on the ball....perfect midfield material??

Doesn't seem to fit at either right back and not ready for centre back, in my opinion he could be a great holding midfielder with a playmaker ala Neves or Palhinha next to him.

Just a thought....

Didn’t he say that CM was his preferred position?

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Didn’t he say that CM was his preferred position?

Maybe he prefers CM because he seems he is always liable to make a mistake at RB or RWB.. Ki never looks comfortable defending.

 

[lyechris]

He will be a wonderful player, full stop! He's young making errors but he could go onto be something very special. Patience that's all that's needed

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Paul Warhurst too. Coady was a midfielder who moved to defence. Stephen Ward was a forward who moved to full back. Emblen was a centre back who moved pretty much wherever he was required. Mark Atkins was a midfielder who moved to the back. Pavarotti was a goalkeeper. We've seen Saiss and the Donk in midfield and defence, and even Traore has done a job at wing back (against Man City too!).

I'm not suggesting that we should play square pegs in round holes, but some players are more adaptable than others, and may actually be more suited to other roles than the ones they're known for, especially early on in their career. Didn't Hoddle play as sweeper for Swindon or did I imagine that?

Hoever in midfield? I've no idea if that would work, but it's not my job to find out, and there are far better qualified people than me to judge.

Very random seeing Pavarotti get a mention there! If I remember correctly, he wanted to be a footballer but other than some trials for Modena he never really got close to playing professionally. I could be wrong, but I swear I saw on a documentary he was doing odd jobs when his mum encouraged him into a career in music. Even so, Pavarotti as a keeper sounds more appealing than Coady in midfield next season...anyone suggesting that clearly never saw his flat-footed, one-paced labours through some of the worst football we played in the Championship over the years

 

[Rhoswolf]

He will be a wonderful player, full stop! He's young making errors but he could go onto be something very special. Patience that's all that's needed

Not sure Patience is a word in most posters' vocabulary.