Jonny Castro Otto

[Bognor_Wolf]

Interesting how O'Neil didn't want to talk about his absence today reading between the lines looks like he has made himself unavailable for selection which given how the club treated him (giving him a new contract etc) after his two major injuries is really really poor form (If true of course!) from him!

Getting him out given how much money he is on and how bad he has been for a while now will be a struggle.

Think this will be a sad ending to his time here!

 

[Fenrir_]

I'd imagine bringing on Doherty ahead of him on Monday didn't go down well

 

[UEAwolf]

Feel sorry for him with his injuries. What a player he was though. Similar situation to Raul.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

He was a very good player before those two serious injuries. I don’t know what has happened, but it is a shame if his time at Molineux ends on a sour note.

 

[Starsky]

Hope he gets a sensible move back home now.

Cracking.player for us, but sadly a waste of a non home grown squad slot and wage now.

 

[Ned]

Such a shame with the injuries and what they’ve done to him.

I’ve no doubt in my mind that the Jonny of old would have shut Saka down today to the point he would have been hooked early on.

 

[Ned]

Feel sorry for him with his injuries. What a player he was though. Similar situation to Raul.

Exactly this. He was literally the Spanish Denis Irwin for us before he got injured. Against any player I had no worry at all for him.

 

[AndyWolves]

Still better than Doc

 

[Wolf316]

Still better than Doc

This.

 

[GBWolf]

Still better than Doc

Jonny gets skinned by every winger he comes up against since he came back. Doc is far from perfect but at least has premier league levels of fitness.

 

[VancouverWolf]

Still better than Doc

Probably. As much as I loved Doc, I thought giving him a 3 year contract was very generous.

 

[Greeno]

If he turned out for someone else like Raul the other night, we wouldn’t let the good memories cloud our judgement with Jonny.

He isn’t good enough now, sadly.

 

[AndyWolves]

Jonny gets skinned by every winger he comes up against since he came back. Doc is far from perfect but at least has premier league levels of fitness.

Very, very debatable. Doc looks like he did pre Nuno

 

[lostwolf]

Still better than Doc

In theory maybe: Jonny at his peak for us was as good in his position as anyone in the league, genuine class. Doc's the better option now though; Jonny's legs have completely gone.

 

[WolvTown]

I'm a big fan of having a good left footed player on the left, over a very good right footed player on the left, obviously subjective and allowing for tactics.
There must be data in training showing he's now behind Doc, in some key metrics that the coaching team look for.
Still, we shopping a different area of the football market going forward.
If you've got two young lads as first n second choice in AIT n Bueno, I don't mind a older head as backup to them.

 

[BlahBlah]

He was a very good player before those two serious injuries. I don’t know what has happened, but it is a shame if his time at Molineux ends on a sour note.

we made him available last summer and he didn't want to go so he could 'fight for his place' (see out his contract).
I'd be surprised if he'd refused to play, but if those injuries have finished him at this level he probably won't get another decent contract elsewhere so he needs to maximise his income, or we pay him off.
No different to anybody getting injured at work and waiting around to see what insurance companies can sort out with contracts, but its always tricky with footballers who are deemed fit to play, but obviously cannot reach their previous performance level.

 

[arctic rime]

When’s his contract up ?

 

[FJRWolf]

Jonny gets skinned by every winger he comes up against since he came back. Doc is far from perfect but at least has premier league levels of fitness.

He really hasn't, Doc looks slow and lazy. Tbh neither are now good enough or rather fit enough. I hope Jonny gets some sort of move in January.

 

[hollo]

Otto 2026 courtesy of nuno.

 

[KBWWFC]

Third manager in a row that Jonny has done this to.

Shame.

 

[Scallywolf]

Exactly this. He was literally the Spanish Denis Irwin for us before he got injured. Against any player I had no worry at all for him.

Absolutely.

In his prime, Jonny was one of our best ever full backs imo. Sadly, it looks like a move will be best for both parties.

A great servant who has been a great pro.

Whatever he does and wherever he goes, I wish him nothing but the best

 

[Jawwfc]

Johnny was our best full back in many many years, two serious injury one after the other have taken there toll and understandably so.

He needs a clean break why he didn't want the move to Spain which was rumoured in the summer I don't know.

 

[BlahBlah]

He needs a clean break why he didn't want the move to Spain which was rumoured in the summer I don't know.

possibly wages?

 

[WickedWolfie]

Probably. As much as I loved Doc, I thought giving him a 3 year contract was very generous.

Like 4 years too long!

 

[WickedWolfie]

Jonny gets skinned by every winger he comes up against since he came back. Doc is far from perfect but at least has premier league levels of fitness.

Doc is every bit as shot as a PL player as Jonny. He never had any pace but is now arguably slower than post-two injuries Jonny.

 

[Skrilla]

'old Jonny' was phenomenal, my favourite Wolves player. 'new Jonny' post two knee injuries is not up to the required physical standards of the Premier League. A sorry ending, but I'll never forget how incredible he was for us in those first three years.

 

[Fenrir_]

Doc is every bit as shot as a PL player as Jonny. He never had any pace but is now arguably slower than post-two injuries Jonny.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Johnny was our best full back in many many years, two serious injury one after the other have taken there toll and understandably so.

He needs a clean break why he didn't want the move to Spain which was rumoured in the summer I don't know.

let’s say he’s on £60k a week here.
let’s say he’s offered £20k to move.
£40k over 3 years is over £6m.
i wouldn’t move either!!

 

[Ian]

Still better than Doc

On the left...absolutely.

 

[fleck1]

It's sad to see what the knee injuries did to Jonny, what a player he was. One is tough to get back from but to go again soon after is gutting.
Like Raul following his injury never been the same since, but two of the great players of modern time at wolves.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

It's always hard to be sympathetic to someone earning a good annual salary on a weekly basis for kicking a ball about. However, it must be pretty aggravating to train every week, travel to games, and then when the guy you might replace goes off injured just get left on the bench, while another player lumbers about in the same position. I don't really know how anyone is judging him relative to Doc, the fact that this discussion is happening at all just shows that the squad is very thin in places. Thankfully Bueno didn't do too badly yesterday considering it's a tough test, he's likely to be the best option for two months.

 

[Monk]

I'm a big fan of having a good left footed player on the left, over a very good right footed player on the left, obviously subjective and allowing for tactics.

Can't disagree - however it had worked well before with Squeak (Derek Parkin for younger members). However that's a whole different level up in class on anyone we have at present, but RAN has the makings of a good left wing back.

 

[QB Wolf]

Isn’t Otto a right footed left back? Dennis Irwin was too!

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

One of the worst premier league performances last season .

No way he should play again

 

[Surrey Wolf]

When’s his contract up ?

2025

 

[Jack Russell]

In theory maybe: Jonny at his peak for us was as good in his position as anyone in the league, genuine class. Doc's the better option now though; Jonny's legs have completely gone.

Should we send out a search party to find them?

 

[Big Saft Kid]

If (and I emphasise 'if') he has really 'made himself unavailable' for selection when fit, then Wolves should make his salary similarly 'unavailable'. Completely unprofessional.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Isn’t Otto a right footed left back? Dennis Irwin was too!

Jonny and Irwin both pretty two footed though. Doc also won POTS playing LB in the Championship relegation season IIRC. Although it was awarded to the least-bad player.

 

[Supadavewolf]

If (and I emphasise 'if') he has really 'made himself unavailable' for selection when fit, then Wolves should make his salary similarly 'unavailable'. Completely unprofessional.

You're right to emphasise 'If'.

I would imagine anyone refusing to play if fit would be in breach of contract, and his/her employer would surely be entitled to withhold salary.

 

[Wolf316]

You're right to emphasise 'If'.

I would imagine anyone refusing to play if fit would be in breach of contract, and his/her employer would surely be entitled to withhold salary.

And doesn’t seem like something Jonny would do.