How many points to stay up ?

[RosehillWolf]

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those games plus a few draws
What has been the average to stay up over last 10 years ?

 

[Stafford]

54

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

I think the average over many years has been 37, and as low as 30,but you always look at 40 being the bench mark ,and even that has not been enough on a few occasions
Hopefully it wont concern us at all though

 

[Mutchy]

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those games plus a few draws
What has been the average to stay up over last 10 years ?

Why are you taking tomorrow's match out of the equation?
And while I'm not saying we either will or won't take points against the top five or six, why does our record against them over recent seasons lead you to always assume those games will bring nothing?
Looks like an exercise in scare mongering and trying to reduce the number of games to as few as possible...

 

[Pagey]

Interesting to read that you always expect us to get zero points from the top sides.

As much as as we as fans love to see us beat the top six and get three points, are three points more valuable against the others, in the race for best of the rest/survival in a six pointer kind of way?

Points from the top six are therefore a bonus?

 

[JR WAS KING]

Why are you taking tomorrow's match out of the equation?
And while I'm not saying we either will or won't take points against the top five or six, why does our record against them over recent seasons lead you to always assume those games will bring nothing?
Looks like an exercise in scare mongering and trying to reduce the number of games to as few as possible...

Interesting to read that you always expect us to get zero points from the top sides.

As much as as we as fans love to see us beat the top six and get three points, are three points more valuable against the others, in the race for best of the rest/survival in a six pointer kind of way?

Points from the top six are therefore a bonus?

Precisely.

A bit more composure in front of goal (in our own hands) and better refereeing decisions (out of our own hands) and we may well have taken points in all three games played so far.

 

[giantwolf]

The average required to stay up since the start of the premier league/premiership is 36.

Over the past 10 seasons it has been 35 and last season was the lowest at 29

Only 4 times in the last 26 seasons has it required the magic 40 or higher to stay up




So when Bruno takes us on one of his Benfica type unbeaten runs, we'll be nearly safe in 12 games time.

 

[Oliwolf44]

We wont be going down unless big injury crisis. The shambles of not addressing the imbalances in the squad means the latch has been taken off the trap door, but it would take injuries for it to be pushed open.

But lets be honest these first team players we have shouldnt even be considering relegation.

 

[Halesowen wwfc]

Did we not do well against the top 6 in the last few seasons. I certainly dont remember us registering nil points against the top 6.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Think we'll take less points off the big 6 than Nuno did, we were set up well against them so well. But maybe take more points off the others with worse defenders and more intent to break them down? So swings and roundabouts.
Seems that a point per game is risking it a bit.

 

[Chris H]

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those games plus a few draws
What has been the average to stay up over last 10 years ?

You forgot to add Chelsea so make it 6. West Ham will be difficult too, Everton are usually a decent bet for top half, Leeds are fun, Villa too.

Best to drop that 34 (after we obviously lose to Watford) down to 17 then.

So we now need 40 points (people always say 40 points even though it rarely is) from 17 games. That’s top 2 form and we all know we aren’t good enough for that.

*******s.

Championship here we come.

 

[maws]

Less than we will get

 

[S G Wolves]

You forgot to add Chelsea so make it 6. West Ham will be difficult too, Everton are usually a decent bet for top half, Leeds are fun, Villa too.

Best to drop that 34 (after we obviously lose to Watford) down to 17 then.

So we now need 40 points (people always say 40 points even though it rarely is) from 17 games. That’s top 2 form and we all know we aren’t good enough for that.

*******s.

Championship here we come.

It's all over. Let's plan for the Championship

 

[Aurum Lupus]

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[woop woop barmy army]

we'll be safe by Xmas

 

[Fenrir_]

I always assume no points

Fixed it

35 will be enough in my opinion, and I think - barring a major injury catastrophe - we'll be well clear of that figure

We do need to pick up a couple of wins sooner rather than later though

 

[oldgoldheart]

we have a 35 game season. so we need more than 1 point per game from now. we will have a good idea after southampton away. if we are on 3 or more by then we will probably be OK. if we are still on zero then it will look pretty bleak

 

[RosehillWolf]

Why are you taking tomorrow's match out of the equation?
And while I'm not saying we either will or won't take points against the top five or six, why does our record against them over recent seasons lead you to always assume those games will bring nothing?
Looks like an exercise in scare mongering and trying to reduce the number of games to as few as possible...

If I’d have been scare mongering , which I’m not , as has been pointed out I would have also deducted 4 further games for Chelsea and West Ham as their teams are better than ours
I’ve discounted the top “ 6” because usually the better team wins , they all have a better team than us don’t they ?
the relegation survival “ point” is our most urgent target , that’s why I’ve asked the question

 

[The Wolf In The North]

It's all over. Let's plan for the Championship

Huddersfield and Albion are in the Championship so that's four games we'll get nothing from there as well. And don't get me started on the minefield of League One. Scary times.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

We'll get north of 50. No concerns for me

 

[Boon2]

How many points to get Europe?
Much more pertinent question.

 

[Big Saft Kid]

I think we'll get over 50. To be certain of staying up, 40

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

45 points will be more than enough aim to win 15 games go from there

 

[Frank Lincoln]

40 should be enough for those in a relegation battle. I think Wolves will be battling for a top ten finish.

 

[Mutchy]

If I’d have been scare mongering , which I’m not , as has been pointed out I would have also deducted 4 further games for Chelsea and West Ham as their teams are better than ours
I’ve discounted the top “ 6” because usually the better team wins , they all have a better team than us don’t they ?
the relegation survival “ point” is our most urgent target , that’s why I’ve asked the question

How have we done against the top six in the seasons since our promotion?

 

[GV Wolf]

We'll get north of 50. No concerns for me

Let’s see how we do over the next three games. If it’s nine points out of nine I’m on board with 50 plus points.

 

[sedgwolf1980]

We will be nowhere near a relegation fight. Most sane people were annoyed with the window as we were just 1-2 players from having a real crack at top 6 again. Anyone jumping to the other extreme and fearing relegation is just being silly.

 

[Ercall Wolves]

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those games plus a few draws
What has been the average to stay up over last 10 years ?

A lot less than we will get

 

[lostwolf]

We will be nowhere near a relegation fight. Most sane people were annoyed with the window as we were just 1-2 players from having a real crack at top 6 again. Anyone jumping to the other extreme and fearing relegation is just being silly.

The only potential spanner there would be if we got an early injury to Neves. Then I think we'd struggle.

 

[Bradmore Wolf]

Lovely, lovely Premier League. Kick off with main priority DON'T GET RELEGATED. Anything else is a bonus/relief.

 

[RosehillWolf]

How have we done against the top six in the seasons since our promotion?

Better than what we have offered up so far this season

 

[Mutchy]

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those games plus a few draws
What has been the average to stay up over last 10 years ?

Well thats buggered it.

 

[Ogerp]

Well thats buggered it.

Please don’t troll the Mods have a hard enough job as it is

 

[Yamalroite]

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those

I know it’s early days. However after 3 games , 8 teams have yet to win and 3 teams have yet to register a point
Throw into the mix how well Brentford have started and it’s all very interesting
If we should lose tomorrow we will be left with 34 games to get to the magic number , whatever it is
I always assume no points against the top 5 clubs ( City , United , Liverpool , Spurs and Leicester ) so that leaves 27 games to get to safety
If the number is , say , 38 points , we will need to win 11/12 of those games plus a few draws
What has been the average to stay up over last 10 years ?

Bet you are gutted

 

[SuperGran]

Well thats buggered it.

Buggered gets through the sweat filter that’s good to know

 

[Burton Wolf]

Buggered gets through the sweat filter that’s good to know

Buggered it buggered it buggered it. With a bugger on top.

 

[old wittonian]

Same as the bottom three with a better goal difference.

 

[RosehillWolf]

Question still stands. How many points to stay up as this looks like being a crazy season

 

[SuperGran]

Question still stands. How many points to stay up as this looks like being a crazy season

40
10 wins
10 draws

9 wins now

 

[Yamalroite]

Question still stands. How many points to stay up as this looks like being a crazy season

4 games in?
**** knows. Great win today and now we can look forward not back.