Genuine first team signings

[Hot Fuss]

We have a brilliant first eleven capable of competing with anyone.

After that we are weakened considerably.

Not a dig at Fosun who’ve pumped a huge amount of cash in or Nuno whose a brilliant coach.

Fact is, to really compete with the best, we need players who will provide proper competition to the first team. Not potential (Vinagre, Neto etc) or promising kids coming through the 23s.

The next 18 months are crucial.

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

The next month is crucial.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Not true.

Wolves and utd both had 6 first reamers out tonight but wolves looked by far the stronger team.

As they do when all players are available.

Wolves look stronger than one of the three richest clubs in the world... Just take that in.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

So you don't think Vinagre and Neto are providing proper competition?
Oh no I suppose we should of signed Drinkwater and Rodwell.
January is tough. We are 7th and in Europe not in the bottom 3

 

[Metal Wolf89]

Hwang Hee-chan hopefully coming this month...

 

[Living at other WWFC]

Is this about martial arts?

 

[Hot Fuss]

So you don't think Vinagre and Neto are providing proper competition?
Oh no I suppose we should of signed Drinkwater and Rodwell.
January is tough. We are 7th and in Europe not in the bottom 3

No I don’t think Vinagre and Neto are providing proper competition. Both kids with potential for the future.

 

[RJs Tankard]

Fist team?

Is that a video on Pornhub? Asking for a friend.

 

[Hot Fuss]

Not true.

Wolves and utd both had 6 first reamers out tonight but wolves looked by far the stronger team.

As they do when all players are available.

Wolves look stronger than one of the three richest clubs in the world... Just take that in.

United were dreadful. We ended the game with our strongest outfield team bar Boly and Jota and still created little.
I’m not moaning but we are definitely in need of proper first team players soon with our schedule.

 

[Flea]

Very hard doing good biz in the January window though.
I will be happy with a solid RCB signing.
Summer window 20 will be crucial though.It´s gonna have to be good,if not belief in the so called project will start to evaporate.

 

[Hot Fuss]

Very hard doing good biz in the January window though.
I will be happy with a solid RCB signing.
Summer window 20 will be crucial though.It´s gonna have to be good,if not belief in the so called project will start to evaporate.

Totally agree. As I say, next 18 months are crucial. I’m very optimistic.

 

[Keith maniac]

Boooo, beat city, shafted v liverpool, failed to beat manure, boooooo!

 

[Hot Fuss]

Boooo, beat city, shafted v liverpool, failed to beat manure, boooooo!

Great response pal, well done.

 

[Keith maniac]

I just think that when we are good, we are very good. When we are average we get held by Man U. Reality check needed.

 

[Pagey]

If Cutrone goes, Could do with probably 3/4 in, this month. 2 midfielders and at least 1 fwd.

 

[Monketron]

There's absolutely no way we'd let Cutrone go if we didn't have a replacement lined up. Even by Wolves recent standards that would be suicidal.

 

[Ian]

We have a brilliant first eleven capable of competing with anyone.

After that we are weakened considerably.

Not a dig at Fosun who’ve pumped a huge amount of cash in or Nuno whose a brilliant coach.

Fact is, to really compete with the best, we need players who will provide proper competition to the first team. Not potential (Vinagre, Neto etc) or promising kids coming through the 23s.

The next 18 months are crucial.

I was actually going to write something similar on the verdict thread......

Our first 11 is exceptional, our back up players are average or young and inconsistent.
We need to strengthen with a central defender, central midfielder and striker that are on a par with our our first choice starting 11 or better to maintain our current success and seriously reach the top 4..... i doubt thats going to happen this window but hopefully in place for next season.

 

[Rangiora Wolf]

There's absolutely no way we'd let Cutrone go if we didn't have a replacement lined up. Even by Wolves recent standards that would be suicidal.

Not necessarily. Cutrone it seems was desperate to go so was no use to us and we paid a sizeable fee for him. Presumably a good offer has come in to get him off our books and it's been accepted. Doesnt mean we have a replacement lined up.

 

[Deleted member 5635]

There's absolutely no way we'd let Cutrone go if we didn't have a replacement lined up. Even by Wolves recent standards that would be suicidal.

I beg to differ, I bet we would and leave ourselves short, then use the u23’s self sufficiency line.

 

[freezin]

Very hard doing good biz in the January window though.
I will be happy with a solid RCB signing.
Summer window 20 will be crucial though.It´s gonna have to be good,if not belief in the so called project will start to evaporate.

I don't like the guy but Allardyce always seems to do decent business in January.

I appreciate we are talking contrasting styles and very different circumstances but he does seem to get in guys who can perform better than is already at his disposal.

I think this January is expensive and difficult to recruit might be a little overstated. Clubs won't want to release good players at any time. If more clubs did their business early in the window then there's plenty of time for well prepared clubs to accommodate for losing a player.

 

[JOSWolf]

The next month is crucial.

Agree with this.

 

[JOSWolf]

There's absolutely no way we'd let Cutrone go if we didn't have a replacement lined up. Even by Wolves recent standards that would be suicidal.

We did that in the summer when we let Costa and Cav go with no imminent replacements. Hope history isnt repeating itself this January.

 

[JOSWolf]

Very hard doing good biz in the January window though.
I will be happy with a solid RCB signing.
Summer window 20 will be crucial though.It´s gonna have to be good,if not belief in the so called project will start to evaporate.

I would argue reinforcements in attack and central midfield now take priority over defence. We are threadbare in these areas.

 

[wolfgar]

I think there are a number of areas where we need to improve the quality/depth of the squad moving forwars, but it will take a few windows to do that I imagine. Prices are often inflated in Jan and teams are even more reluctant to let players go. The type of players we need will also often likely have suitors willing to throw more cash at it?

I personally don't think we will add more than 2 players in Jan tbh, in which case my immediate priority would be to bring in a quality forward and a CM. As mentioned, Hwang and someone such as Gedson/Kessie would fit the bill (but they won't come easily/cheap).

In the summer I'd then look to adding another forward, a CB, a RWB and a keeper.

 

[Chiswick_Wolf]

One thing that needs to be taken into account is that the first eleven have now been playing together week in, week out for a year and a half (plus the bulk of these also played the season before). Our current first eleven is a "team" in every sense of the word. There is real synergy in the way we play. Players understand each others' games, the runs they make, the spaces they find etc etc. I'd argue that given there's such structure in the way we set up and play, it's really hard for someone to just come in and hit the ground running and make this team better, or even maintain the standards that have already been set. You only have to see how long it took Adama to understand the "philosophy" as a case in point.

Then you have to factor in what are we looking for? Same or different? Do we want a Jimenez 2.0 that can come in and do the same job in a similar way? Or do you try and go for something different to help find solutions if we're struggling in games?

 

[sc91]

We did that in the summer when we let Costa and Cav go with no imminent replacements. Hope history isnt repeating itself this January.

Costa - dog****, how can you replace a wet fart?
Cav - Neto

It's not about numbers, it's about quality.

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

I don't like the guy but Allardyce always seems to do decent business in January.

I appreciate we are talking contrasting styles and very different circumstances but he does seem to get in guys who can perform better than is already at his disposal.

I think this January is expensive and difficult to recruit might be a little overstated. Clubs won't want to release good players at any time. If more clubs did their business early in the window then there's plenty of time for well prepared clubs to accommodate for losing a player.

Agreed about the transfer window. If January was such a bad time then why are we arguing about a bad summer recruitment.

 

[Deleted at request of member 4337]

There's absolutely no way we'd let Cutrone go if we didn't have a replacement lined up. Even by Wolves recent standards that would be suicidal.

No point in keeping a player if he’s not playing or going to be included. Doesn’t necessary mean we’ve got an alternative lined up sorry

 

[Hot Fuss]

I just think that when we are good, we are very good. When we are average we get held by Man U. Reality check needed.

I’m being realistic. I agree that when we are good we are very good. Nothing in the OP was critical. Just making a point about what we need to really push on and have less performances like Norwich and Watford.
One of the problems on here is if you post anything that isn’t gushing praise you get told you’re moaning and “remember where we were 6 years ago”.
The club, Fosun, Nuno, the players have done great. I understand why there wasn’t huge signings last summer (already net spend of 220m in 3 years), but we have to push on over the next 2 years. We won’t do that with only 14 genuine first players. As I said this is not a criticism and I’m sure Nuno is well aware of it.

 

[Deleted member 4023]

I’m being realistic. I agree that when we are good we are very good. Nothing in the OP was critical. Just making a point about what we need to really push on and have less performances like Norwich and Watford.
One of the problems on here is if you post anything that isn’t gushing praise you get told you’re moaning and “remember where we were 6 years ago”.
The club, Fosun, Nuno, the players have done great. I understand why there wasn’t huge signings last summer (already net spend of 220m in 3 years), but we have to push on over the next 2 years. We won’t do that with only 14 genuine first players. As I said this is not a criticism and I’m sure Nuno is well aware of it.

You moaning **** you ,

 

[Deleted at request of member 4337]

I’m being realistic. I agree that when we are good we are very good. Nothing in the OP was critical. Just making a point about what we need to really push on and have less performances like Norwich and Watford.
One of the problems on here is if you post anything that isn’t gushing praise you get told you’re moaning and “remember where we were 6 years ago”.
The club, Fosun, Nuno, the players have done great. I understand why there wasn’t huge signings last summer (already net spend of 220m in 3 years), but we have to push on over the next 2 years. We won’t do that with only 14 genuine first players. As I said this is not a criticism and I’m sure Nuno is well aware of it.

Look on the brightside at least we're not villa

 

[Hot Fuss]

Look on the brightside at least we're not villa

There’s always that

 

[Hot Fuss]

You moaning **** you ,

I’m actually really cheerful!!

 

[WickedWolfie]

Look on the brightside at least we're not villa

Is there a hint in that message (or just a typo) l wonder....

 

[JOSWolf]

Costa - dog****, how can you replace a wet fart?
Cav - Neto

It's not about numbers, it's about quality.

Neto didnt need to be a direct replacement for Cav. Cav could easily have played last night and done better than Ashley Seal. I am afraid it very much is about numbers and we are way short of them currently as shown by too many of our players running on empty as they have no decent competition.
Even Nuno seems to realise this or why would he be calling for new signings every press conference?

 

[Hsvwolf]

Can’t believe the. Negativity from some on here.....apart from Watford we’ve just played 4 out of last seasons top 5 and competed in every game, and should probably have got something out of Spurs and Liverpool......We are now a respected prem club and need to make the transition from no longer being the hunter but the hunted ......The windows only just opened so let’s wait and see what it brings....remember it’s not Fosun style to broadcast who we are after for obvious reasons .......can see a few more gems we may not have heard of but will soon have other clubs wondering where we get them from .........

 

[Luke Blakenhall]

I don't post on the Mix very often but feel rather compelled to make some observations. Some keep saying how the Summer window was poor and that we should have signed an attacking midfielder and we need competition for Jonny and Vinagre etc etc.
Well Wolves have been fortunate with injuries compared to several other clubs but maybe we are forgetting that Wolves signed a couple of very promising young midfielders who had played for top European clubs - Bayern Munich (Shabani) and Lazio (Jordao). Unforfunately both have hardly played because of injury - attacking midfielder Shabani out for the season when he must have been seen as a good bet to provide cover and competition. Wolves will still be paying their wages! If they were to have progressed like Neto then maybe the club made some good investments but have simply been unlucky?
With regards to Jonny/Vinagre - and other positions - then let's not forget that Wolves will have in mind players out on loan who will be back next year. I fancy Ryan Giles will be one to watch.
And finally - Raul will be going nowhere! Fosun look at his potential for commercial development which will include the huge Mexican market - why else give his best mate Sin Cara a job!?
Please everyone - look behind the rubbish the media spout whenever there is a Transfer Window just to fill airtime and pages and get clicks, and concentrate on some of the facts.
Just think - three years ago we were desperately trying to avoid relegation to League One.
Happy New Year!

 

[Flea]

I would argue reinforcements in attack and central midfield now take priority over defence. We are threadbare in these areas.

Yes,I won´t disagree with you..especially given the Cutrone situation we are in.
I will be very happy for anyone transfer we might secure in January,provided it´s the right player(s).

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

We are so close to being able to do better than we are, so close.

We are as good as or better than any team in this league bar one or arguably two.

Now is the time to go for it.

 

[arctic rime]

We are so close to being able to do better than we are, so close.

We are as good as or better than any team in this league bar one or arguably two.

Now is the time to go for it.

And we will !