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Find Wolves a stop-gap #9 cover for the rest of the season

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Calling all football manager disciples and budding football scouts.

The brief

Wolves are still flying close to P&S limits — with their current table position (relative safety) plus notoriously difficult January transfer window, are highly unlikely to sanction the type of spend to find their desirable long term #9.

The assumption

With all mitigating factors outlined, Wolves would prefer to wait until Summer for a more equitable transfer period, a wider pool of players and money available to spend on a permanent #9 — and will explore the short-term loan market only as a stop gap solution.

The task

Find Wolves a stop gap, #9 cover for the next 5 months — a loan (no obligation) — where the player could feasibly be able leave their current club in the January window.

And no this isn’t Matt Hobbs or Jeff Shi typing this before all the heroes pipe up.
 

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Here's the thing: what level of participation are the club really looking for from a new acquisition? I don't think the team are so desperate for a 9 that anyone with a pulse goes straight into the first 11. Are we talking a first sub kind of player? Or are we really just saying "in case of injury," because nobody worth a damn is coming in on a short term loan just to sit on the Wolves bench in case of emergency.
 

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Here's the thing: what level of participation are the club really looking for from a new acquisition? I don't think the team are so desperate for a 9 that anyone with a pulse goes straight into the first 11. Are we talking a first sub kind of player? Or are we really just saying "in case of injury," because nobody worth a damn is coming in on a short term loan just to sit on the Wolves bench in case of emergency.

I think this is precisely the predicament
 

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We should be getting Mendes to get us Simon Banza from Braga on a loan obligation... Gestifute player and Braga always need the money.....if they wow budge.....then give us Abel Ruiz on loan option then.....
 

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Calling all football manager disciples and budding football scouts.

The brief

Wolves are still flying close to P&S limits — with their current table position (relative safety) plus notoriously difficult January transfer window, are highly unlikely to sanction the type of spend to find their desirable long term #9.

The assumption

With all mitigating factors outlined, Wolves would prefer to wait until Summer for a more equitable transfer period, a wider pool of players and money available to spend on a permanent #9 — and will explore the short-term loan market only as a stop gap solution.

The task

Find Wolves a stop gap, #9 cover for the next 5 months — a loan (no obligation) — where the player could feasibly be able leave their current club in the January window.

And no this isn’t Matt Hobbs or Jeff Shi typing this before all the heroes pipe up.
Before we go to all this trouble looking, will Jeff actually take our advice?……otherwise, what’s the point ?
And is there a reward?

sorry….I get really bored and mischievous during international breaks
 

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I thought we have money to spend in the summer.

So why not just get a striker we actually want on a january loan with purchase in summer?

I dont know who though
 

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Not sure we need a player to make up the numbers. Hwang and Cunha are scoring goals. We are not really playing with a 9. Sarabia, Neto, Bellegarde, Fraser. I personally think we have enough options in a season where no matter what we do we are likely to finish between 8th and 13th...
 

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So it’s a short-term loan to act as cover with no option or obligation?

Only ones I can think of are Firmino and Ings. But both would be huge wages.

From those previously linked…Kieffer Moore? Danny Loader? Neither would be an improvement on what we’ve let go in Sasa and Fabio.

Very slim pickings as I can’t imagine many clubs will let any half-decent striker go at this stage of the season without an option or obligation to buy at the end of it.
 

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If we could afford Firminio, I think he'd be an outstanding addition. Pipe dream mind for so many reasons.
 

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Hugo Duro or Ryan Hardie either would offer us something different.

Hardie, 10 goals, 4 assists, 22 games
Duro, 9 goals, 2 assists, 21 games


 
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It's going to be no one get a result against Brighton they are going to be like well we are good. With palace and forest losing we are starting to gap the bottom. They think they have enough here to challenge looking up in regard to hwang neto etc.

Let's see

If it's a loan cover I would not take ings.
 

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So it’s a short-term loan to act as cover with no option or obligation?

Only ones I can think of are Firmino and Ings. But both would be huge wages.

From those previously linked…Kieffer Moore? Danny Loader? Neither would be an improvement on what we’ve let go in Sasa and Fabio.

Very slim pickings as I can’t imagine many clubs will let any half-decent striker go at this stage of the season without an option or obligation to buy at the end of it.

I think that’s right Tring. Would it be fair to assume clubs would also likely apply a premium for the loan to buy given the January timing inconvenience for them and allowing the payment terms we desperately need?

Another factor in trying to have the money be as effective as possible
 

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We have to be sensible if any movement it will be late in window with a player throwing toys on the bench of another team who wants to get minutes
 

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Here's the thing: what level of participation are the club really looking for from a new acquisition? I don't think the team are so desperate for a 9 that anyone with a pulse goes straight into the first 11. Are we talking a first sub kind of player? Or are we really just saying "in case of injury," because nobody worth a damn is coming in on a short term loan just to sit on the Wolves bench in case of emergency.
Surely every club has this predicament , unless they only have one number 9 . And we don't really have any number 9 .
Sasa and Silva have left to join the ranks of backups elsewhere . From a small sample size of Wolves strikers.
Number 9 being shorthand for a physical leader of the line or a target man .
 

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Gon wants a starting 9 with cunha to play 10 and float or a second striker. We won't fix it without going big so surely we wait to summer and use Fraser
 

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I'd take Wilson if he's available

Newcastle have also rejected a loan enquiry for England striker Callum Wilson from Atletico Madrid but could sell the 31-year-old if a permanent offer is made
 

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Surely every club has this predicament , unless they only have one number 9 . And we don't really have any number 9 .
Sasa and Silva have left to join the ranks of backups elsewhere . From a small sample size of Wolves strikers.
Number 9 being shorthand for a physical leader of the line or a target man .
Everyone wants a decent 9 because they're so rare. Can't really get them on the cheap.

So then what? A making up the numbers tweener in the Sarabia/Cunha/JRB/Hwang vein? Are the club really just looking for another attacking type who can follow directions and press? Nathan Fraser is the current floor there, and I don't think he's so awful you can't carry him for awhile (unlike Fabio, who was very poor structurally whenever he played and just couldn't control his emotions enough to not pick up stupid fouls and bookings etc).

If a string of awful luck happens and the club are down Hwang, Neto, and Cunha for the season (let's say), I still don't think they're getting relegated. What does "need" mean here in terms of trading off on a better player in the summer?

Now to go knock on wood.
 

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Why is there only one Monopolies Commission? Oh sorry, I thought this was the random thoughts thread?
Are there often multiple of a single commission? Perhaps there is a Monopolies Commission, and MonopoliesCommission, Monopolies Commission (1), and Monopolies Commission FINAL (1).

Do wolves need a starter or a change of pace? Is Hwang going to come back healthy? What if Cunha needs a break?
 

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I'd take Wilson if he's available

Newcastle have also rejected a loan enquiry for England striker Callum Wilson from Atletico Madrid but could sell the 31-year-old if a permanent offer is made

Why?

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Not sure we need a player to make up the numbers. Hwang and Cunha are scoring goals. We are not really playing with a 9. Sarabia, Neto, Bellegarde, Fraser. I personally think we have enough options in a season where no matter what we do we are likely to finish between 8th and 13th...
Shh makes too much sense...
 

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We don't need anyone- frankly we are well overstocked up front compared to other areas of our squad.

We currently have 3 forward positions, with the expectations that they will all be relatively interchangeable. We have Cunha, Hwang and Neto as our first choice so only really need Sarabia if one of them is injured- just like Santi is the only back-up to Dawson, Kilman and Toti in our defence. We don't need more than that- we have got kids or can change formation.

Might as well let JRB go and prove himself in Spain (Ligue Un is a farmers league after all) and let Fraser go to Shrewsbury. Why do we need Fraser? Sasa and Fabio got no minutes- he too needs to go out and get minutes.

And another striker? Don't you know we've got no money and January is notoriously difficult to do business (even if we did get 6 signings last January)? For me, we would probably need to move on Sarabia, JRB and Fraser to even make signing a striker worthwhile.
 
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Are there often multiple of a single commission? Perhaps there is a Monopolies Commission, and MonopoliesCommission, Monopolies Commission (1), and Monopolies Commission FINAL (1).

Do wolves need a starter or a change of pace? Is Hwang going to come back healthy? What if Cunha needs a break?
Do the blue smarties send you hyper or did you take the red one and find out how deep the rabbit Warren goes?
 

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Honestly? At this point, I don't even really care if we get one. We're pretty safe from any chance of a relegation battle. I'd rather keep whatever money we have for a bigger splash in the summer than blowing a bunch of it on a player we don't really need.

We've been scoring like crazy all year without a real #9. Let's just keep it up.
 

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We don't need anyone- frankly we are well overstocked up front compared to other areas of our squad.

We currently have 3 forward positions, with the expectations that they will all be relatively interchangeable. We have Cunha, Hwang and Neto as our first choice so only really need Sarabia if one of them is injured- just like Santi is the only back-up to Dawson, Kilman and Toti in our defence. We don't need more than that- we have got kids or can change formation.

Might as well let JRB go and prove himself in Spain (Ligue Un is a farmers league after all) and let Fraser go to Shrewsbury. Why do we need Fraser? Sasa and Fabio got no minutes- he too needs to go out and get minutes.

And another striker? Don't you know we've got no money and January is notoriously difficult to do business (even if we did get 6 signings last January)? For me, we would probably need to move on Sarabia, JRB and Fraser to even make signing a striker worthwhile.

No way are we well overstocked in the forwards. We are pretty thin in most areas apart from fullback and Goalkeeper really. Relying on Hwang and Neto to stay fit when both have had their fair share of injuries, minor and major is a huge risk, and having to play them week in week out is also asking for trouble. Fraser may be ok, but it would be better if we could bring in at least 1 forward capable of playing anywhere across the front line.
 

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Newcastle are apparently willing to sell Callum Wilson.
 
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