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NorthWolf

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Quite hilarious how Villa have well and truly shown us up. No goose chase, no frills. Sacking and replacement sorted in a matter of days, and a good replacement at that. Yet tHeReS nO oUtStAnDiNg CaNdIDaTeS Jeff says. What a load of nonsense. Villa clearly have a plan, paid the money and got their man. We have none of that.
Brighton did the same just before too.

Really makes you wonder what the agenda really is.
 

ombyman

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We are an embarrassment. Small time, cheap being run by charlatans.
Its really grating on me now.
Go and pay the going rate, stop trying to do everything clever or special deals.
We get it, yes its nice when it works, but sometimes you have to get your wallet out.
Prats
 

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Is there any chance that Amorim‘s release clause is no long applicable/severely reduced as of 1st January 2023…

Wishful thinking?
 

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Is there any chance that Amorim‘s release clause is no long applicable/severely reduced as of 1st January 2023…

Wishful thinking?
€10m gets him now. Lunacy to take a chance on us being on 9 points half way though a season, with ~10 games of Davis in charge/no preseason world cup taken advantage of to regroup.. in order to save ~€5m with the risk of losing ~£300m in asset value if we go down. I honestly don’t know what they’re thinking.
 

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We are an embarrassment. Small time, cheap being run by charlatans.
Its really grating on me now.
Go and pay the going rate, stop trying to do everything clever or special deals.
We get it, yes its nice when it works, but sometimes you have to get your wallet out.
Prats
Prats ? You're too kind.
We are an embarrassment. Small time, cheap being run by charlatans.
Its really grating on me now.
Go and pay the going rate, stop trying to do everything clever or special deals.
We get it, yes its nice when it works, but sometimes you have to get your wallet out.
Prats
Prats ? You're too kind.
 

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In a straight choice between Unai Emery and Steve Davis, I'm pretty sure most of us are choosing Steve Davis. I'm pretty relieved Villa didn't try to poach him given the lack of outstanding candidates out there.
 

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You have to be portuguese and attached to gestifute to be considered for Portuguese Wolves manager job don't you?
 

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In a straight choice between Unai Emery and Steve Davis, I'm pretty sure most of us are choosing Steve Davis. I'm pretty relieved Villa didn't try to poach him given the lack of outstanding candidates out there.

I'm just relieved they didn't offer it to Nuno. He'd have jumped at the chance.
 

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Much bigger club than us so of course he’d be interested in the far more than us

Of course Jeff, is that why we didn't bother enquiring, or why we interviewed a bloke who has never managed a club at any level?
 

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£6m is a lot but it's a lot less than you'd lose getting relegated. Also each place in the table is worth what, £2m or so? so you'd only need to get 3 places higher (and that's not hard given how tightly packed the lower/mid table gets points wise) to basically make that back anyway - which by acting early you give yourself a bigger chance of doing.

It's just a false economy to delay like Wolves have. Not to mention common sense.
 

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Nobody wants the job here with the Mendes influence unless they're a Mendes client

I've been fully aboard the Mendes train until this head coach fiasco but have now done a total U-turn. We are far too reliant on him
 

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Great manager for Villa.

Fosun, Jeff Shi, Sellars and Mendes cannot **** off soon enough.
 

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But surely they understand that relegation will cost WAY more than paying an actual manager? This is what's so confusing.

Not wholly convinced it's down to money, think it's more a case of our lack of proper club set Up and the restrictions he'd be working under...

Can you imagine Emery tolerating the likes of Sellars blocking a player he wants?
 

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Whoever comes as team coach has got to be prepared to accept that Mendes will continue to determine who we buy. That suits Shi, who knows nothing about football, and it certainly suits Mendes who decides when and where 'his' players go and makes a nice agent's commission on every move/fee paid. FOSUN have a stake in his Gestifute operation, so they do OK out it too. It's a purely money making operation that we occasionally benefit from on the playing side. But who we get to play for us is largely a Mendes decision. He does what suits him and what suits Fosun, not what suits Wolves, except coincidentally. Shi is just a pawn in this, a low level operative who does what he is told. Things won't improve until the club break free of Mendes's controlling influence. That's how I see it.
 

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How can you spend 100m in the Summer and baulk at a few £m's on the man who can get the most from them? Particularly when you have seen how badly the 2 main purchases in Nunes and Guedes have bombed under the wrong set up.

Not sure words can do justice to how negligent S&S have been tbh. It is genuinely incredible.

It makes no sense to cheap out on someone that isn't even scraping the bottom of the barrel but going through it and 100m underground, when you have a squad worth hundreds of millions, an asset worth hundreds of millions, and relegation will cost hundreds of millions.

Hiring turds isn't saving money.
 

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Outside of Birmingham, Villa aren't a huge club. Over here in Spain, more people could tell you who plays for Wolves than Villa.
Meanwhile in England more people know who plays for Villa than Wolves and most importantly which club has a manager ( of top European pedigree) and who will stay up.
They sacked a manager and replaced him within a week.
The gulf is massive
 

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Nobody wants the job here with the Mendes influence unless they're a Mendes client

I've been fully aboard the Mendes train until this head coach fiasco but have now done a total U-turn. We are far too reliant on him
There's absolutely no evidence that Mendes has put any head coach off from coming here.

We would have had a good chance of Mendes getting a top coach like Lopetegui to come to us had his personal circumstances been different. Mendes would also have brought out most successful coach in 40 years back had Wolves not decided they'd rather have a bloke with 8 weeks experience at QPR instead.

As far as I can see we haven't even bothered approaching the likes of Emery or Amorin anyway. No outstanding candidates apparently.
 

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There's absolutely no evidence that Mendes has put any head coach off from coming here.
That's not what people are saying though. It's Shi's obvious and heavy reliance on Mendes in the matter of player recruitment that may well be the sticking point with recruiting head coaches. Mendes may simply have too much influence with FOSUN for any independent-minded coach worth his salt.
 

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Meanwhile in England more people know who plays for Villa than Wolves and most importantly which club has a manager ( of top European pedigree) and who will stay up.
They sacked a manager and replaced him within a week.
The gulf is massive
Villa have been pretty uninspiring for about 25 years now, so their popularity outside of Birmingham is pretty much 0.

They have a bigger stadium and fan base than us though domestically obviously.. still, we’ve been ahead on the pitch for 5 years until this year.

They’re just willing to spend the money to get the guy they want.. we aren’t.
 

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Credit where it's due. Out with the old & in with new in under a week. Whether clandestine talks had been taking place behind the scenes is irrelevant.
 

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Credit where it's due. Out with the old & in with new in under a week. Whether clandestine talks had been taking place behind the scenes is irrelevant.
A massive upgrade also. No question about it.
 

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Jeff Shi Scott Sellars we thank you for your service
Dracarys
 

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Barnet Wolves

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You have to be portuguese and attached to gestifute to be considered for Portuguese Wolves manager job don't you?
tbf since Fosun took over we've had Zenga (italian), Lambert (Scottish), Nuno (Portuguese), Edwards (Welsh?), Bruno (Portuguese) and Daivs (English), while chasing a Spaniard (Lopetegui) for 6 years
 

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Everyone banging on about how fantastic Emery is…..is he really? Surely if he was that good he would still be at Arsenal? Think before everyone knocks one out over Villa and Emery let’s see how it goes….at the end of the day to win what he has won he will have worked with better players than what he has got at the Vile! It doesn’t matter who Villa got…..for 99% of people on here…..it will be better than who we get even if we managed to get Pep!!
 
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