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we8wba

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right we back in the champ and i love this league everyone on even par etc...

but i'm worried by the amount teams being taken over in the fizzy pop

Forest - Middle East Billionaires
Watford - Billionaires
Cardiff - wealthy Asians
Leeds - Rumoured to be by sheiks


where will it stop? when will we see the likes of kidderminster harriers being taken over by wealthy foreigners

its beyond a joke now
 

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We had more money than everyone in the 90s and it didn't get us anywhere.
Look at Leicester more recently for similar results
 
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Don't worry, we're making a profit don't you know.

Steve Morgan is a legend and Jez Moxey is doing a sterling job also. I would rather us sell Steven Fletcher and Matt Jarvis if it means we can keep Morgan and Moxey.

We have so much to thank them for, this club would be nothing without them.
 

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In the future every club in the greed league will have been taken over by wealthy owners leaving the championship and below to feed off scraps.
 
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we8wba

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We had more money than everyone in the 90s and it didn't get us anywhere.
Look at Leicester more recently for similar results

true but if you buy enough tickets you stand bigger chance winning a prize

i'm sure one or two out of say 6-7 big money teams would get it right!
 
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Don't worry, we're making a profit don't you know.

Steve Morgan is a legend and Jez Moxey is doing a sterling job also. I would rather us sell Steven Fletcher and Matt Jarvis if it means we can keep Morgan and Moxey.

We have so much to thank them for, this club would be nothing without them.

:confused:

Maybe middle eastern billionaires don't want to buy us! We could do a lot worse than Morgan and Moxey and until the fairy tale comes true then sarcasm like this isn't helpful.
 

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right we back in the champ and i love this league everyone on even par etc...

but i'm worried by the amount teams being taken over in the fizzy pop

Forest - Middle East Billionaires
Watford - Billionaires
Cardiff - wealthy Asians
Leeds - Rumoured to be by sheiks


where will it stop? when will we see the likes of kidderminster harriers being taken over by wealthy foreigners

its beyond a joke now

Does the word hypocrite mean anything to you?
 

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Ridiculous isn't it?

The question is, where does it stop?

In 10 years, can you see any other scenario than all the teams in the PL and the Championship being owned by billionaires?

Then what happens - do they buy league one clubs? Then League two?

It's preposterous that this sort of thing is allowed to happen and that a large proportion of fans - instead of being filled with righteous fury - are fine to accept it, in the hope that their club is chosen to be the next project.
 

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Maybe middle eastern billionaires don't want to buy us! We could do a lot worse than Morgan and Moxey and until the fairy tale comes true then sarcasm like this isn't helpful.

So they would rather buy Watford, Cardiff and Forest?
 

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At the end of the day there is still only 4 CL spaces and 20 PL places, how trusting are these owners and which ones will either bleed the clubs dry from day one and which ones will spend a bucket loads chasing an impossible dream and walk away leaving the club in ruins.

I would still rather have Morgan than a rich Arab.
 

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You're seriously telling me you'd rather be in our position than Man City?

Definitely, their club has no soul anymore. I believe even the Gallaghers have been priced out of their box.
 

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You're seriously telling me you'd rather be in our position than Man City?

Most definitely.

Are Citeh in the Second Division?
Do they have 55 luxury homes being built?
Does their ground look ridiculous because they abandoned development to save 63p?
Is Citeh's kit made by the legendary Burrda?
Have they got a CEO who will ring up fans if the megastore gives them the wrong change?

See, the Mancs have none of these things - I bet they look at us and weep...
 

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what difference does it make who owns a club? and why are people anti rich people owning them? I dont get it
 

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what difference does it make who owns a club? and why are people anti rich people owning them? I dont get it

I think the problem comes when the rich owner decides he's had enough, what happens to the club then? Stuck with top earners, huge debts etc etc?

In one respect I'd love the excitement of being a City fan right now BUT what happens if it all comes crashing down?

At least I know OUR club will still be here in 40 years time for us to go and support, even if it means we're in the conference. That is enough for me.
 

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From what I've seen of Forests new owner God help them.
 
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Definitely, their club has no soul anymore. I believe even the Gallaghers have been priced out of their box.

I defy you to call the City fans who have been going to watch them for 40 years 'soulless' because some Arabs decided it was time for them to be given a bit of glory, Lord knows they deserve it.

Anyone who would rather be in our situation instead of Man City's wants their head testing. And for the record, neither of the Gallagher's have been priced out of their box, they are both busy touring the world with their current bands.
 
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Most definitely.

Are Citeh in the Second Division?
Do they have 55 luxury homes being built?
Does their ground look ridiculous because they abandoned development to save 63p?
Is Citeh's kit made by the legendary Burrda?
Have they got a CEO who will ring up fans if the megastore gives them the wrong change?

See, the Mancs have none of these things - I bet they look at us and weep...

Great post.
 

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I defy you to call the City fans who have been going to watch them for 40 years 'soulless' because some Arabs decided it was time for them to be given a bit of glory, Lord knows they deserve it.

Anyone who would rather be in our situation instead of Man City's wants their head testing. And for the record, neither of the Gallagher's have been priced out of their box, they are both busy touring the world with their current bands.

Just out of interest what happens when the Arabs have had enough?
 

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right we back in the champ and i love this league everyone on even par etc...

but i'm worried by the amount teams being taken over in the fizzy pop

Forest - Middle East Billionaires
Watford - Billionaires
Cardiff - wealthy Asians
Leeds - Rumoured to be by sheiks


where will it stop? when will we see the likes of kidderminster harriers being taken over by wealthy foreigners

its beyond a joke now
Have you not noticed that this is the way our country is going. Which industries remain English?
However this would not happen if the fans did not go along with it. Murdoch's sky would not be in operation if people did not buy it.
But who is going to take the first step against this?
 
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Jameswwfc

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right we back in the champ and i love this league everyone on even par etc...

but i'm worried by the amount teams being taken over in the fizzy pop

Forest - Middle East Billionaires
Watford - Billionaires
Cardiff - wealthy Asians
Leeds - Rumoured to be by sheiks


where will it stop? when will we see the likes of kidderminster harriers being taken over by wealthy foreigners

its beyond a joke now
Can see what your saying in the main. Wonder what some clubs think about us getting parachute payments for the next 3-4 years.
 

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If the family next door took out massive loans to buy a new car, extension, holidays and a total revamp of their home who would be jealous knowing that in 5 years time they would be screwed?

I'm happy with what I've got thanks
 

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Agree with the sentiment, but with the caveat that it's money ruining football, not foreign money.
 
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If the family next door took out massive loans to buy a new car, extension, holidays and a total revamp of their home who would be jealous knowing that in 5 years time they would be screwed?

I'm happy with what I've got thanks

Man City aren't taking out loans though.

The Arabs are spending the money that is their own.
 

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Man City aren't taking out loans though.

The Arabs are spending the money that is their own.

But when they leave City will have a wage bill only another Arab would be able to service. Maybe they won't get lucky twice.

I'd also imagine that the Arabs are loaning MC the money, much as SJH did with Wolves, can you honestly see them walking away without calling in afew of those loans?
 

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Man City aren't taking out loans though.

The Arabs are spending the money that is their own.

We shall see. They obviously won't get the money back that they have spent but one day they will try and claw back as much as they can via player sales and leave the club with a crippling wage bill.

But it's ok though because as you said they deserve a bit of glory :rolleyes:
 

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It all depends on your billionaire doesn't it? Man Citys have been good for the club and I would love them to take over here. Brum Citys perhaps less so.
And I don't understand the sarcastic attacks on Morgan by some. We all know why the academy is getting money not the new SB and if 55 houses help pay for it, that's good surely? Or are we back on the theory that somehow Morgan is going to make a profit out of Wolves? If so the surely selling the ground is the way to go, certainly not redeveloping.
I doubt Wolves are trying to sell to a foreign owner unlike the clubs mentioned in the OP (I believe thee are specialists who arrange these things). So while a mega rich Arab who would love to lose his money on rubbish footballers taking over is a nice dream, it's not happening soon. And if it did how long before someone starts stories of money laundering, dodgy accounting, no actual cash etc?
Let's see how next season pans out. I remeber Blackburn were going to sign Beckham and be in the champions league. Almost worked out until the next day the reality of how much these things actually cost dawned on them.
 
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Can someone give me examples of mega rich owners who have bought a club, made it successful and then got bored and walked away?
 
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Would also like to take a moment to remind some people that the last few years have been the most successful in Wolves' recent history, and when they slag Morgan, Moxey and even Mick, they come across as shallow, small minded and extremely ungrateful...
 

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Can someone give me examples of mega rich owners who have bought a club, made it successful and then got bored and walked away?

The new billionaire owners is quite a new trend, give it time.
 

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Wait. Now we're giving Morgan stick for not owning a billion pounds to throw at the club?
 

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what difference does it make who owns a club? and why are people anti rich people owning them? I dont get it

Depends on the rich person doing the takeover, Glasers are rich took over Man Utd and now the club is debt ridden because they used the financial rules which exist in the UK to help the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
 
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Can someone give me examples of mega rich owners who have bought a club, made it successful and then got bored and walked away?

The new billionaire owners is quite a new trend, give it time.

Everybody said Abromovich would get bored & walk away from Chelsea. He's been there how long now? And how much has he put into the club in all that time? All the Man City Arabs are doing is what Abromovich did but in a shorter time
 
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what difference does it make who owns a club? and why are people anti rich people owning them? I dont get it

And my final input before I go in search of the drunk thread (stuck at an airport for the last twelve hours) is a short contextualiece for Thor and other new Scandinavian supporters.....

In UK, we have a society which is based on class. Football is traditionally a working man's sport. Nowadays it is a multimillion pound business. Working class people are being priced out and resent the fact. Don't blame them frankly.

That said, at the same time, our society is polarising itself with working class people and lower middle classes trying to dumb themselves down so they don't seem to be climbing the social ladder. Some seem to think that to be anything other than working class is letting down your roots and heritage.

What we end up with in England, therefore, is a greater than necessary divide between the working class and the middle class. In my view, working class people who make a go of life and are successful cling on to their working class roots and are (rightly) proud of them, which means they can't easily assimilate to being middle class.

Middle class people are now being exposed to football, where as they has before been mainly focused on rugby and cricket because that is what they did at their middle class schools.

Nobody's fault really, just what you are born into.

So, now when money starts to play such a huge part in football, the traditional working class type will resent the fact that someone else with money can come in and buy their way to the top. At their expense (in their view).

Now, I am not really saying anyone is wrong here, but I would be interested to see if those that have found football due to it's (comparatively) recent surge in global popularity, rather than the grass roots fans who have been loyal to a club (and it doesn't matter which one) have different opinions about what is right and wrong in terms of rich owners. Or rich foreign owners.

Frankly, I have been a Wolves fan for the last 36 years and the money bothers me, but I accept that this is the environment that my team plays in. I see it has changed, and will no doubt change again during my lifetime (unless my plane crashes tonight) and I am comfortable with how things are run at Wolves, despite relegation last year which was of course a major disappointment. You could call it a failure, but I also realise that making a permanent transition from the first division to the greed league is not always going to be smooth process which always ends in this season better than last......

So, I am of to the drunk thread if I can find it.....
 
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The question is, where does it stop?

In 10 years, can you see any other scenario than all the teams in the PL and the Championship being owned by billionaires?


Would be interesting if every Premier League club was owned by a billionaire, like you said then what? Status quo or power struggle to see who could buy the most trophies? There is of course only so many decent players to go around after all
 
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Would be interesting if every Premier League club was owned by a billionaire, like you said then what? Status quo or power struggle to see who could buy the most trophies? There is of course only so many decent players to go around after all

That's the way it's heading. Every team will be owned by a multi-billionaire. Then what? Gulf between Championship and Premiership grows.
 
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