Bull v Neves

[ws1wolf]

I was having this discussion the other day, wolves fans of a certain age will likely have Steve Bull as a huge hero if theirs, certainly he was one of mine growing up.

Although There have been several players since then and now who I’ve had an affinity for none quite so much as our new Skipper, his passion and shear quality makes him a new kind of hero in my eyes, genuinely hope he signs a new contract and stays, to see him lift a trophy with us would be amazing.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Never thought anybody would top bully in my eyes ....as a 15/16yr old watching bully particularly in those two promotions seasons he was my idol....But I said in the summer Neves has took over him for me......

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I absolutely adore Neves, if he stays then that will only get stronger. He'll never be another Bully though, the circumstances are just completely different. So I'll love them both but in different ways!

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

He's without question a better player, but I can't really fathom a more important player than Bully in the clubs history given the life and death situation we were in

 

[DanishWolf]

I remember during the Bully years, there was always this fear that we'd lose him. Surely he'd leave at some point. With his quality, he was destined to the biggest stage possible. Yet he stayed...
I havent had that feeling since. Surely there have been good players, that I didnt like to see leave. But most were replaceable. Neves to me is on a different level. Sure, he can be replaced as a player. But it will not be easy. And as well as his attributes, what he represents, the way he conducts himself, the way he's adopted the city and the club, and forever left his mark in the hearts of all of us with all his years of dedication and pure genius on the pitch. He is forever a legend in the same cathegory as Bully, and I feel blessed to have lived in a time, where I've seen them both in the flesh playing for Wolves.
Now I dont expect him to stay for his entire career with us. But he's stayed long enough for him, to always be a Wolves legend.

 

[Minimalist]

Bull all day long.
The context of the situation of the club at the two times is paramount.
As fantastic as neves is , had he left this summer we would have adapted to it well enough.
Bull was the club for a time, provided hope when there was non.
Of course neves is technically the better player, along with many others, but as an icon, legend, fans hero... no one beats Bull.
You’d have to be a younger fan that didn’t watch us then to even consider it.

 

[sedgwolf1980]

Neves is the only player in the last 30 years who has ever, ever got near Bully.

Hence, I said got near though.

There will never, ever, be another Stephen George Bull.

 

[Loefah]

Not even close for me. Neves would have to be here his entire career for a start.

 

[Tezthewolvesfan]

Bully is God......

Neves is very close....Jesus maybe

 

[Southdownswolf]

If Neves is here to lift a trophy, then he will get close to being on the same page as Bully. Otherwise, there is no comparision.
I hope that we are never in another situation to need a hero that means so much like Bully does to those of us that were around at the time..

 

[Glow69]

Bully is God......

Neves is very close....Jesus maybe

End of thread

 

[WWFC4EVA]

I absolutely adore Neves but Bully will always be the King, IMO.

 

[Wednesbury Wolf]

Bully did it all Neves hasn't done enough to better Bully yet.

 

[Rhyl Wolf]

Can't we just agree that we have been blessed to have both in the gold & black.

 

[The Clock]

I was having this discussion the other day, wolves fans of a certain age will likely have Steve Bull as a huge hero if theirs, certainly he was one of mine growing up.

Although There have been several players since then and now who I’ve had an affinity for none quite so much as our new Skipper, his passion and shear quality makes him a new kind of hero in my eyes, genuinely hope he signs a new contract and stays, to see him lift a trophy with us would be amazing.

Is this a joke?

 

[chignalwolf]

I was having this discussion the other day, wolves fans of a certain age will likely have Steve Bull as a huge hero if theirs, certainly he was one of mine growing up.

Although There have been several players since then and now who I’ve had an affinity for none quite so much as our new Skipper, his passion and shear quality makes him a new kind of hero in my eyes, genuinely hope he signs a new contract and stays, to see him lift a trophy with us would be amazing.

I think you can have different hero's from different era's/decades and Neves is right up their with in my eyes as well,
although from the Doog's era I had many more, actually probably all of them LOL

my list of real hero's in my time. ( waving my walking stick LOL)
Peter Broadbent
Derek Dougan,
Steve Bull,
Neves, (not yet but time will tell )

Coady would have gone on to become the real legend and Hero at the Wolves, like Billy Wright and Ron Flowers { another reason to sack Bruno}

 

[ws1wolf]

Is this a joke?

No why? It’s a discussion, on a discussion board?

 

[chignalwolf]

Bull all day long.
The context of the situation of the club at the two times is paramount.
As fantastic as neves is , had he left this summer we would have adapted to it well enough.
Bull was the club for a time, provided hope when there was non.
Of course neves is technically the better player, along with many others, but as an icon, legend, fans hero... no one beats Bull.
You’d have to be a younger fan that didn’t watch us then to even consider it.

I can honestly say your quote is spot on........" but as an icon, legend, fans hero... no one beats Bull." ........, and can add their probably never will again,

 

[Paddy Wolf]

"Comparison is the thief of joy"

 

[Wombat]

I was having this discussion the other day, wolves fans of a certain age will likely have Steve Bull as a huge hero if theirs, certainly he was one of mine growing up.

Although There have been several players since then and now who I’ve had an affinity for none quite so much as our new Skipper, his passion and shear quality makes him a new kind of hero in my eyes, genuinely hope he signs a new contract and stays, to see him lift a trophy with us would be amazing.

Neves speaks better English though......

 

[IANWILSON]

Bully was God. Grew up watching him score for fun but we move on. Neves is the best player I've seen in all my years down their. If Neves takes us to a cup final or Europe, I'd happily say Neves. 2 different eras and two different leagues etc.

 

[Kingswood Wolf]

Neves is already a Wolves legend, no doubt. He may even become one of the all-time greats.

But.

STEVE BULL IS GOD.

 

[NottsWolves]

Lucky enough to have been able to see Bully play, and no question of his legend status.

Neves is a joy to watch and for those of a younger age he will undoubtedly be hero to them.

While not involved in this topic, the fact I’ve watched Moutinho in a gold shirt for 4 seasons still amazes me.

 

[Me Babbies]

I'm totally happy to be proved wrong, but I doubt Neves will ever have a stand named after him....

 

[JonahWolf]

Bully is God......

Neves is very close....Jesus maybe

I think for the younger generation though…he has become him.

 

[wolvesaywe]

Bully is God......

Neves is very close....Jesus maybe

[insert obligatory pun about crosses]

 

[WickedWolfie]

Bully is God......

Neves is very close....Jesus maybe

Not about to get religious on here but my CofE deacon friend would say that you don't understand basic theology lol....

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

I was about 14/15 when Bull retired, and for a good few years of my Wolves supporting days he was injured. So whilst I was lucky to see him and certainly loved him, I don’t think I have the same love for him as someone who recalls the 80s or Italia 90 era.

Neves is comfortably the best player I’ve seen in the Old Gold in my lifetime, he’s just next level.

However, I don’t think he’ll ever be able to eclipse the cult status and story of Bully, football is just so different these days. Neves will unfortunately eventually move on from us.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Bully was'worshipped' by the fans in the same way The Doog was. Comparing him and Neves is very difficult because of the totally different state of the club when they joined. Bully will always be regarded as the finest goalscorer Wolves have had, and the Magic man will be regarded as one of the finest players ever to wear the gold and black.

 

[Supadavewolf]

Neves is already a Wolves legend, no doubt. He may even become one of the all-time greats.

But.

STEVE BULL IS GOD.

If he is, can you please have a word with him about the weather?

 

[ricki herberts moustache]

No one gets near Bully imo a real working class hero

 

[NewOrder306]

Bull

 

[Bawtry Wolf]

Bull no question. For those who didn’t get to see him in the 80s and don’t remember the immediate history before his arrival then you it may be lost on you quite how talismanic he was. We were wretched, we weren’t going anywhere and whilst we had a club you couldn’t see it doing anything but languishing in the lower divisions forgotten and dismissed by footballs elite.

Fortunately the pagans of Smethwick decided to cast out the one true deity amongst them and he came to his true church and promptly resurrected our fortunes. The man was a god, for two seasons we’d turn up wondering how many he would score, when not shooting or going for goal his touch was like Hwang, but he could score all types of goals. We were a loud set of fans and numerous for the 4th and 3rd divisions but the majority of our songs were about Bully. It wasn’t just one song it was a whole hymn book, no other player was really sung about other than Jackie Gallagher, and that was more to do with his weight.

Neves is a better player than Bully, he has been magnificent for us. In fact you can say we’ve had a lot of better players than him since and before but we’ve never had a goal scorer like him and quite rightly we have a stand named after him. He made people notice Wolves again, he was talked about, fans from other clubs in the first division would ask about him, he played for England when we were in the third division and he was ours.

 

[whitnash wolf ex.dewsbury]

I have followed Wolves since the fifties but only caught the tail end of Broadbent`s career(by common consent our finest ever player}
The most talented player I have seen was Knowles
but Bully is still a God to me

 

[steve vena]

Bully for me as he saved wolves on his own basically.
Neves though epitomises the new breed. Both legends.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Completely different players, completely different paths so I wouldn’t compare them anyway. As a kid of the late 80s starting my wolves journey, Bully was simply god to me. Neves is undoubtedly a better footballer, maybe even a better human but Bully will always be number 1 for me.

 

[Wednesbury Wolf]

Completely different players, completely different paths so I wouldn’t compare them anyway. As a kid of the late 80s starting my wolves journey, Bully was simply god to me. Neves is undoubtedly a better footballer, maybe even a better human but Bully will always be number 1 for me.

In what way is Neves a better human ?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

In what way is Neves a better human ?

Neves hasn’t left his wife for a younger model and abandoned his first two kids.

 

[OLDGOLD]

Neves hasn’t left his wife for a younger model and abandoned his first two kids.

Yet.........

 

[we love jez moxey]

I grew up on the lost city in the years when he was scoring 50 goals a season and made the Italia 90 squad. As much as I love Neves, his fairy tail has a long way to go to match the tatter's!!