What shoould Wolves do next with Fabio Silva?

[wolfslair]

VAR intervene to give Fabio a penalty. Do they not know he is a Wolves player?

He is playing for one of the big teams at rangers, so that over rides the wolves links

He is going to hate it coming back to wolves and getting treated like a non leading team player

Hahaha

 

[wolfslair]

Aged well

In fairness, he had been flopping around most the game and had put the likelihood of a dive in the referees head.

The fact comentators and pundits were frustrated with his play acting etc shows why the refs mind went to it being a dive first time live

 

[Irish_Wolf]

Hooked. He was rotten.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Hooked. He was rotten.

Waste of money for Wolves

 

[Redhillwolf]

Hooked. He was rotten.

To be fair he’s not a left winger but he didn’t do himself any favours today on such a big stage rolling around at the slightest touch! I really believe he has talent and showed at Anderlecht and PSV that he can play at a decent level but for some reason he just isn’t kicking on like we had hoped/expected. Hard to defend him anymore unfortunately.

 

[WalsallWolf]

First time I've watched him since leaving on loan, that was cringe bad. Hopefully the sorry episode comes to an end in the summer and we can all pretend it was a bad dream.

 

[wolfslair]

To be fair he’s not a left winger but he didn’t do himself any favours today on such a big stage rolling around at the slightest touch! I really believe he has talent and showed at Anderlecht and PSV that he can play at a decent level but for some reason he just isn’t kicking on like we had hoped/expected. Hard to defend him anymore unfortunately.

But the Belgian and Dutch leagues standards are so low…… they are championship level leagues.

He has good one off games in the Europa, which shows there is a good player in there!!!!

He just rarely produces it with any consistency when the opposition are of a good standard that is getting closer to prem standard

 

[DJLWolf]

2 goals in the SPL since signing in January is it?

 

[Redhillwolf]

But the Belgian and Dutch leagues standards are so low…… they are championship level leagues.

He has good one off games in the Europa, which shows there is a good player in there!!!!

He just rarely produces it with any consistency when the opposition are of a good standard that is getting closer to prem standard

Agreed mate. Now is the time to sell because we have shown just how much we need a Premier League ready centre forward and Fabio obviously isn’t that and also doesn’t seem to fit the profile of striker that GON likes. It’s a shame really as like most when we signed him I had massive hopes for him! Think uncle Jorge owes us at least one for this plus Nunes and Guedes!

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

Hooked. He was rotten.

People just don't realise how much effort it takes to throw yourself to the ground that often.

 

[wolfslair]

Agreed mate. Now is the time to sell because we have shown just how much we need a Premier League ready centre forward and Fabio obviously isn’t that and also doesn’t seem to fit the profile of striker that GON likes. It’s a shame really as like most when we signed him I had massive hopes for him! Think uncle Jorge owes us at least one for this plus Nunes and Guedes!

I think we did well out of Nunes….. so he gets a thumbs up from me on that. As so far, he hasn’t shown why he has nearly £100m in career transfer fees…… but we got good cash and Doyle out of the deal….. so I am happy here lol

Guedes and silva he owes us massively!! As FFP wise they have killed us!!!

 

[JohnB]

I think we did well out of Nunes….. so he gets a thumbs up from me on that. As so far, he hasn’t shown why he has nearly £100m in career transfer fees…… but we got good cash and Doyle out of the deal….. so I am happy here lol

Guedes and silva he owes us massively!! As FFP wise they have killed us!!!

Would be interesting to have a total of fees paid and fees received to Uncle Jorge vs non Jorge fees since Fosun took over. Suspect net positive (certainly so if Neto is sold).

 

[wolfslair]

Would be interesting to have a total of fees paid and fees received to Uncle Jorge vs non Jorge fees since Fosun took over. Suspect net positive (certainly so if Neto is sold).

Look at the fees we paid for;

Neves, Jota, patricio, boly et al in the early days……

We got them for a bloody steal.

 

[Rubberball]

Would be interesting to have a total of fees paid and fees received to Uncle Jorge vs non Jorge fees since Fosun took over. Suspect net positive (certainly so if Neto is sold).

You think Mendes had made us more money than cost us?

 

[Fenrir_]

Slow mo, he was going down before he was touched. He's a cheat.

So he did what pretty much every professional footballer does and got a penalty out of it...

I'll never ever understand grown men going after a kid in the way you have relentlessly gone after Silva, hope you're proud of something and it's made you feel special in some way

 

[North West Wanderer]

Get him out on a free transfer if needs be

you think we can afford to write off a £35n player that easily?

 

[WickedWolfie]

He has been a disgrace to football today. Diving about at the slightest touch. Got a Celtic player booked by running into him.

Crys with pain to injury then he's up running about a second later.

He's an embarrassment.

The pro-Celtic bias is strong in this one......

 

[North West Wanderer]

So he did what pretty much every professional footballer does and got a penalty out of it...

I'll never ever understand grown men going after a kid in the way you have relentlessly gone after Silva, hope you're proud of something and it's made you feel special in some way

Irish Wolf, therefore not a Rangers fan i would guess.

And yep, you’re right,
it’s downright pathetic

 

[WickedWolfie]

VAR intervene to give Fabio a penalty. Do they not know he is a Wolves player?

No PGMOL involvement

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

His behaviour is embarrassing.

 

[DJLWolf]

you think we can afford to write off a £35n player that easily?

Sometimes you don't have a choice.

 

[DJLWolf]

His behaviour is embarrassing.

It really is.

Stuff all over the internet about what an embarrassment he is.

 

[xbomber]

It really is.

Stuff all over the internet about what an embarrassment he is.

He has good hair though so swings and roundabouts isn't it?

 

[North West Wanderer]

Sometimes you don't have a choice.

in this case we quite clearly do.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

in this case we quite clearly do.

I don’t see any club bidding money for him. So would rather he just went

 

[North West Wanderer]

I don’t see any club bidding money for him. So would rather he just went

what’s that based on?

i’ll remind you if this when you next critique the club regarding finances

 

[wolfslair]

what’s that based on?

i’ll remind you if this when you next critique the club regarding finances

Ooofffff what a smoking gun you now have for any future FFP debate with him

Hahaha

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

what’s that based on?

i’ll remind you if this when you next critique the club regarding finances

I'm sure we'll get a few quid for him, maybe £5m, maybe a bit more, but more likely £5m and add ons. There's just no denying that he doesn't look remotely like a PL player though and he's 22 in the Summer.

Some teams blow big money on players regularly and hardly ever play them before letting them go at a loss, we weren't really in a position to do that though, he was a very bad call. Even if we had gone big on him it should have been structured according to the success people imagined he would have.

It's also no good people saying 'he's not a wide player', because he sure as hell isn't a #9.

 

[Skrilla]

For FFP purposes, selling him for £5m is effectively a loss. I'm sure we owe Porto more than that, probably upwards of £10m.

It's very likely that he will get loaned out again, unless a club is willing to stump up £10m+ for him.

 

[DJLWolf]

I don’t see any club bidding money for him. So would rather he just went

5 million maybe

 

[Andywolf74]

Get whatever we can for him in the summer and move on.
If he’d been fantastic for either Anderlecht or PSV, I’m sure he would have had a proper chance to establish himself last or this season. It just hasn’t happened in now three leagues that are not at the same level where he needs to excel.

 

[DJLWolf]

in this case we quite clearly do.

What's he worth then and who's buying him?

 

[North West Wanderer]

What's he worth then and who's buying him?

i don’t think we sell him yet, same with Guedes.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

For FFP purposes, selling him for £5m is effectively a loss. I'm sure we owe Porto more than that, probably upwards of £10m.

It's very likely that he will get loaned out again, unless a club is willing to stump up £10m+ for him.

I think that is right.

This is my maths we signed him for £35m on a 5 year contract in summer 2020.

So for amortisation we were writing him down at £7m a year for 2 years.

So by Summer 2022 he was £21m. He then signed an extension taking him to 2026, so that will be £5.25m a year for 2 years so far. That gets him to £10.5 on the books.

However I'm going to say we have more slack in PSR than we need to worry about now and selling him for £5m+ add ons and taking that hit won't be worse than loaning him out for another year and taking the £5m in amortisation anyway.

 

[Skrilla]

I think that is right.

This is my maths we signed him for £35m on a 5 year contract in summer 2020.

So for amortisation we were writing him down at £7m a year for 2 years.

So by Summer 2022 he was £21m. He then signed an extension taking him to 2026, so that will be £5.25m a year for 2 years so far. That gets him to £10.5 on the books.

However I'm going to say we have more slack in PSR than we need to worry about now and selling him for £5m+ add ons and taking that hit won't be worse than loaning him out for another year and taking the £5m in amortisation anyway.

Everything will help in the summer, if we get a decent loan offer (£2m fee?) covering all of his wages, that's worth more to us now than selling him for £5m.

Plus the potential that if we find the right club, i.e. an Anderlecht or PSV, and he scores a bunch in a mediocre league, it could increase his market value. I'm not sure his market value can get any lower than it will be in the summer.

 

[DJLWolf]

i don’t think we sell him yet, same with Guedes.

Gotcha

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Gotcha

Yeah let’s loan them out again and lose even more value

 

[North West Wanderer]

Yeah let’s loan them out again and lose even more value

or sell them for under book value, and lose money still.

Indont think either has a future, but it’s not as simple as selling a player for the hundredth time.

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Biggest waste of money since the KLF burned a million quid live on tv

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Everything will help in the summer, if we get a decent loan offer (£2m fee?) covering all of his wages, that's worth more to us now than selling him for £5m.

Plus the potential that if we find the right club, i.e. an Anderlecht or PSV, and he scores a bunch in a mediocre league, it could increase his market value. I'm not sure his market value can get any lower than it will be in the summer.

I don't see us trying to push the PSR limits in the Summer though, we'll have survived our potential issues and be trying to break even (although that might be the rules anyway). Obviously is someone will give us £2m for a 12 months loan and pay all his wages, then we potentially gain a bit, but is anyone paying a £2m loan fee for a player valued at £5m?

Jeff's ego is the only reason we don't sell IMO.