Aston Villa v Wolves comms thread.

[Tring Wolf]

No blame to any player that’s played. The ownership tho **** me. We’ve loaned out 2 strikers in Jan better than those still currently playing it’s ****ing madness.

Simple as that. Players gave everything and played some nice stuff at times. But just no real threat. Gary asked for 2 forwards, we didn’t / couldn’t deliver and it’s ultimately costing us a couple of fantastic opportunities.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

I'm thinking maybe he doesn't train well.
It seems to me like GON leaves him on the bench on purpose

Why sign him then

 

[Royal wolf]

So Chiwome and Fraser are ready

Fosun have let us down

No but both speak English and have been in the country far longer

 

[Mighty Thor]

the application of the players and manager….

“we’re safe. We won’t make Europe. And if we lose we can blame injuries and fosuns lack of investment”

Thats a local derby and they looked like they did not give two ****s. From O’Neil down.

 

[hollo]

Nothing up front. No threat. Hobbs had to bring someone in the window and failed. He has done well previously but getting no one in january and allowing sasa and fabio to leave is disgraceful.

 

[goldeneyed]

Utterly predictable. O'Neil and the team threw in the towel after their flukey second.
I thought Villa were pretty crap.

Makes me angry to think how poor our transfer activity has been to leave us so threadbare. Cunha surely back v Burnley- we won't win another game without him.

All in all boring and with our loss of forwards and Ait Nouri not played as an attacker out wide we offered nothing and deservedly got nothing. Lemina as some kind of a forward a hopeless decision imv.

Finally,Kilman must be relieved of captaincy. He has as much charisma and fire as a wet lettuce. Lemina is the obvious candidate for that role.

 

[Rhoswolf]

Not sure why someone’s laughing at this post, it’s ****ing painful the situation we’re in right now. Just been brushed aside by Villa as easy as we did the baggies, men against boys, gutting.

TRUE!!

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Not sure why someone’s laughing at this post, it’s ****ing painful the situation we’re in right now. Just been brushed aside by Villa as easy as we did the baggies, men against boys, gutting.

Yeah, sure. **** me some of the comments on here are utter crap. Thank **** we have people in charge who have a little more hope than many of those posting on here since Villa scored. ****ing pathetic. You’re not the only one, so nothing personal, I could’ve picked one of many.

 

[glorybox]

Just Google the their squad list. I can copy and paste, but it's easier for you to do that.

Yeah I’m a clever ****er, I know their squad. Name them.

 

[thommo1984]

Yeah, sure. **** me some of the comments on here are utter crap. Thank **** we have people in charge who have a little more hope than many of those posting on here since Villa scored. ****ing pathetic. You’re not the only one, so nothing personal, I could’ve picked one of many.

So our squad has been well managed over the past 3/4 years?

 

[Andywolf74]

Fosun don't buy the players? They stumped up enough millions of pounds...it was others who made the recruitment decisions.

Name one other club that emerged from mid-Championship, got to 7th and then *improved* on it..this century. The higher you get, the harder (and more expensive ) it is to improve. Others soar up, then fall away far quicker than we have done.

We’ve had 3 transfer windows since the penny finally dropped that barely casting our net wider than Portugal wasn’t giving us the right type of player for this league. Look at the value for money we got from Lemina Gomes Dawson and Cunha from the Jan 2023 transfer window. Doyle was another absolute steal in the summer 2023 window and even sweeter that we somehow made a profit on Nunes. Jan 2024 we still had to tread a fine line to avoid an ffp points deduction and hopefully simmer 2024 we can ship a few out to strengthen the squad further. JL did fantastic to steer us away from relegation last season and GON has exceeded that achievement to have us safe by mid March this season.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

So our squad has been well managed over the past 3/4 years?

Mate, just give it a rest. We lost. None of us like it, me included, but some of us have a little more objectivity. We played well for much of the game, and despite those injuries and thin squad, had the better of Villa away in the top four, for large parts of the game. Villa scored a worldie and a ****ing lucky goal. We missed at least two sitters. Stats are pretty even, but the luck wasn’t with us. **** happens.

 

[Contrarian]

He had sight of it mate, they showed one angle that suggest very very strongly he wasn’t unsighted.

RAN’s miss was the miss of an LWB….. he only has what 3 goals in whole wolves career.

And equally low assists. Yet people keep saying we need to push him forward. What's the point of getting a player forward who can't finish or create? He's a technically gifted player, but I still don't think we've found the best role for him in the team.

 

[Axle]

Such a predictable meltdown on here. Everyone throwing shades at each other after a defeat.

What about all those statements earlier in in the season: ‘Don’t blame the players or manager when the team are stretched too thin to compete’

Take a look and have a word

 

[hollo]

We need to vent. It's cathartic.

 

[Royal wolf]

Such a predictable meltdown on here. Everyone throwing shades at each other after a defeat.

What about all those statements earlier in in the season: ‘Don’t blame the players or manager when the team are stretched too thin to compete’

Take a look and have a word

It’s always the same

Kilman is getting off lightly surprisingly. He usually get a bashing everytime we lose.

 

[Nige]

I remember scoffing at the thought of Kieffer Moore.. for 10 million Think I'd take Roger Moore at the moment.

 

[wolvesjoe]

We still look a good football team, just so little in attack now. And those kids are way off ready.

 

[Contrarian]

So our squad has been well managed over the past 3/4 years?

Better managed than every team beneath us.

 

[hollo]

I'd take mcburnie right now.

 

[Nige100]

Yeah, sure. **** me some of the comments on here are utter crap. Thank **** we have people in charge who have a little more hope than many of those posting on here since Villa scored. ****ing pathetic. You’re not the only one, so nothing personal, I could’ve picked one of many.

Ridiculous post when we are in a situation of playing kids, one of which was going on loan to Shrewsbury and now finds himself leading a line in a FA cup QF or PL. Jan was negligent in not bringing in a striker before we let 2 leave. Everyone knew it at time and it’s coming home to roost with unfortunate timing of all the injuries.

For the record I don’t blame any of the players.

 

[Contrarian]

It’s always the same

Kilman is getting off lightly surprisingly. He usually get a bashing everytime we lose.

Also Santi Bueno...not sure what he was doing for their second goal. Seen many times where defenders at all levels clear far harder chances off the line. I know we always have to give players time. But at the moment, he hasn't looked very good, while looking very limited.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Yeah. But I have limited sympathy when two of our forwards are incredibly injury-prone.

Anyway, it’s been done to death. Everyone knows and accepts the club got it badly wrong.

Everyone, judging by past precedent, except one Jeff Shi.....

 

[Bryce]

We are where we are. Not going down. Not making Europe. It’s up to Fosun where we go now . Don’t hold your breath

 

[WickedWolfie]

Why don’t we use our subs more

Because they are a bunch of kids who are nowhere near ready who really don't need their confidence destroyed before their careers really start.... Oh and Doc....

 

[WickedWolfie]

Exactly this. Pure cowardice.

So let's trash even more players to save Shi's face....

 

[WickedWolfie]

was thinking the same tbh..and this must be souring mario's relationship with the club also

I don't imagine being played out of position (ironically in his brother's position) and looking poor as a result exactly pleases Mario either.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Ridiculous post when we are in a situation of playing kids, one of which was going on loan to Shrewsbury and now finds himself leading a line in a FA cup QF or PL. Jan was negligent in not bringing in a striker before we let 2 leave. Everyone knew it at time and it’s coming home to roost with unfortunate timing of all the injuries.

For the record I don’t blame any of the players.

No more ridiculous than the Chicken Little crap spouted following Villa’s first goal. Nothing new of course, but luckily it’s been largely MIA for much of this season.

For the record mate, my handle was “Fosun Out” for about a year from the summer when we failed to sack that idiot Lage, through the following season, and through the first part of this season. I only changed it when PGMOL decided to enact their own points deduction on us. I acknowledged the need for the massive summer sale only when the financial data became clear during this season, and the EPL finallly decided to enforce their stupid PSR rules.

As for January - neither of those two would have made any difference to situation now. One would have been no more effective than Fraser, and the other would have been injured. The fact we didn’t sign one is down to what was available and what little financial headroom we had to play with.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Or maybe;

young lad, new country, not long lost his father and doesn’t speak much English

Could those be some very plausible reasons he isn’t playing?

Ok, valid points well made.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Exactly this. Pure cowardice.

Would you prefer he also got injured playing 3 full games in 7 days like the others who picked up hamstring injuries recently? How many posters criticised Gary for over playing those who picked up hammy injuries recently?

 

[WickedWolfie]

I don't think he would stay if that were to happen

.... and doubtless the club's propaganda machine would do a Nuno/Lage/JL (delete as appropriate) style hatchet job on him which would be lapped up by some on here....

 

[steve vena]

the application of the players and manager….

“we’re safe. We won’t make Europe. And if we lose we can blame injuries and fosuns lack of investment”

Thats a local derby and they looked like they did not give two ****s. From O’Neil down.

Who said this?

 

[Pengwern]

We kept trying & played quite well. Villa were lucky that the challenges fell to them so often in midfield

 

[thommo1984]

Better managed than every team beneath us.

Do you really think that’s true?

 

[wolfslair]

.... and doubtless the club's propaganda machine would do a Nuno/Lage/JL (delete as appropriate) style hatchet job on him which would be lapped up by some on here....

Jeff wouldn’t get away with the same “anonymous source” like he did with the others.

GON is too well known and loved by sky and their pundits, same with TNT.

Let’s not forget he did a few shows on talk sport before he got our job!!

Jeff won’t be able to re-print the copy and paste hatchet job article he has done before……..

 

[thommo1984]

Mate, just give it a rest. We lost. None of us like it, me included, but some of us have a little more objectivity. We played well for much of the game, and despite those injuries and thin squad, had the better of Villa away in the top four, for large parts of the game. Villa scored a worldie and a ****ing lucky goal. We missed at least two sitters. Stats are pretty even, but the luck wasn’t with us. **** happens.

Not remotely what I asked but crack on.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Do you really think that’s true?

I certainly don't. Luton for a start are better managed (to be clear l mean in the backroom) than us. To be fair to Hobbs he seems to have been screwed over too.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Jeff wouldn’t get away with the same “anonymous source” like he did with the others.

GON is too well known and loved by sky and their pundits, same with TNT.

Let’s not forget he did a few shows on talk sport before he got our job!!

Jeff won’t be able to re-print the copy and paste hatchet job article he has done before……..

He's arrogant enough to try....

 

[stever]

I remember scoffing at the thought of Kieffer Moore.. for 10 million Think I'd take Roger Moore at the moment.

He's six feet under mate so might be a struggle

 

[WickedWolfie]

He's six feet under mate so might be a struggle

Would he have posed any less forward threat in the last two games?