Albion punishment

[Clipboard]

Knowing the FA , wolves will get fined

I bet we do.

 

[Leigh72]

No Wolves fan would recognise Bartley, let alone his wife, dont talk wet

 

[Starsky]

Chucking bottles at Doyle AFTER the players came back on. Bonkers.

Scrot club deserve all they get for this. What a disaster of a cup final for them!

 

[maws]

Albion trouble maker identified

 

[JadeWolf]

I thought the stewarding today was appalling.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I thought the stewarding today was appalling.

For example....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751697093545070620

 

[Contrarian]

I just don't see the appeal , can't celebrate a goal or anything

I can't, either. Maybe if you just have to be there and it's all you can get? The last , maybe only , time I was in the away end was way back in the 1990's at Ashton Gate. Living down there at the time, went with a couple of neutrals. This ended up being the 5-1 win, so I had to politely clap and smirk 5 times, while surrounded by angry Wurzels.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Well having seen a the vlog posts on the verdict thread, I think it’s fairly clear that it was the Albion fans who were the violent ones causing the trouble at the match. Down their end, stewards removing what appears to be a Wolves fan set upon by one, then a group of Albion fans. Down our end, the Albion fans attacking the stewards and police, with one of the idiots leaving the field covered in blood after coming off worse from a run in with the WMC. Then two ****ed Albion fans wandering on the pitch, one looking to provoke the Wolves fans, and the other in her own world kicking a ball. What a ****hole that place is.

 

[Ned]

The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.

 

[Contrarian]

For example....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751697093545070620

Looks like some Albion fans went primarily for a punch up. Well, their football isn't worth watching is it? Not clear to me whether it's Wolves fans getting attacked or some internal squabble. Even if that is Wolves fans, they look like they just want to get out peacefully, not causing any trouble.

On their forum, somebody mentions gangs of their fans chanting insults at other Albion fans before the game, thinking it was Wolves fans. If they can't tell the difference, then wondering if their anger at being 2-0 down was just taken out on anyone in the wrong place at the wrong time?

 

[Big Saft Kid]

The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.

It's called editorial balance

 

[BlahBlah]

Excuses will be rolled our today for there behaviour but it is all on them.

If there was Wolves fans in the home end maybe its not right it happens regularly at games, but the blames on the club for the ticketing system or one of there fans for selling a seat but you stay in your seat and let the stewards/police deal with it no doubt there will be united fans in our end on Thursday but I doubt we will have several 100 fans creating a riot.

I don't see how they can blame West Brom either, much as I couldn't see why they can blame Wolves for fans misbehaving in the South Bank, or chanting things, or Wolves fans selling their tickets to away supporters for games that mean nothing to us.
WBA were selling tickets for 20 quid....how much were they worth on the black market to people who are struggling for cash to live? 100? 200?
It's a cup tie with little notice, how does anybody sort out ticket arrangements when usual rules don't apply, and pretty much every workplace has a mixture of supporters who quite happily work together all week, but only disassociate from each other for a football match?
If people cannot behave without rioting, that's societal problem, not a football problem.

Exactly, fans do not stay in "their" end in any sport anymore. If you want to go and watch any premier league game you can buy a ticket legitimately from a broker and you won't be sitting with your own fans. They give you chicken and chips, call it a corporate ticket and the expectation is that people know how to behave and that is their personal responsibility.

 

[BlahBlah]

It's called editorial balance

I remember the BBC's editorial balance years ago, when a similar thing happened in the East Stand and they accused Wolves supporters of going in the home end and causing trouble.
It was our ******* Directors and their wives getting abused in the corporate section reserved for them, and they had to leave their seats.

 

[dewolfman]

I know they shouldn’t be in their end but does that give them free licence to thump them on the head? Hope they are arrested.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751697093545070620

 

[Shergar]

Just think.......very possibly that woman is somebody's sister/mother.......

And used to be somebody’s uncle/father.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.

This one?

West Brom v Wolves suspended over crowd trouble

West Bromwich Albion's FA Cup home defeat by local rivals Wolverhampton Wanderers is suspended for 38 minutes because of fan disorder before the players return to complete the game.

www.bbc.com

Seems pretty fair to me, all I'd say is that the large majority of the 'missiles in the Smethwick end' were entering it rather than leaving it and that the fan escorted from the home section with blood all over him had been hit by a police baton, not a Wolves fan.

 

[Contrarian]

I don't see how they can blame West Brom either, much as I couldn't see why they can blame Wolves for fans misbehaving in the South Bank, or chanting things, or Wolves fans selling their tickets to away supporters for games that mean nothing to us.
WBA were selling tickets for 20 quid....how much were they worth on the black market to people who are struggling for cash to live? 100? 200?
It's a cup tie with little notice, how does anybody sort out ticket arrangements when usual rules don't apply, and pretty much every workplace has a mixture of supporters who quite happily work together all week, but only disassociate from each other for a football match?
If people cannot behave without rioting, that's societal problem, not a football problem.

Exactly, fans do not stay in "their" end in any sport anymore. If you want to go and watch any premier league game you can buy a ticket legitimately from a broker and you won't be sitting with your own fans. They give you chicken and chips, call it a corporate ticket and the expectation is that people know how to behave and that is their personal responsibility.

Yet they all manage to get through the game without attacking every non-home find they can find. With the TV and phone footage I've seen, there isn't 1 second of any Wolves fans causing any trouble, or attacking anybody. Yet plenty of Albion fans making unprovoked attacks and plenty of them invading the pitch with no Wolves fans near them, they are just looking for trouble.

The media need to realise that actual evidence ranks higher than trying to force some imaginary balance. And the evidence so far appears to be that the vast majority, if not all, of the trouble was absolutely caused by Albion fans.

 

[thommo1984]

Yes I agree.....they just frustrate me them lot and it's been a long day......but all I'm meant in reality is that it is going to go on but if you are like that then keep it out of the ground.....but you are right....

Fair play mate, hope you enjoyed the day

 

[Sussex Wolf]

It's called editorial balance

It’s lazy journalism

 

[WinchWolf]

Baggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF

heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.

As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?

I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.

 

[Jawwfc]

I know they shouldn’t be in their end but does that give them free licence to thump them on the head? Hope they are arrested.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751697093545070620

Should be easy enough to identify by the club, yes it might be wrong sitting in a home end but ultimately its the stewards/polices job to sort out.... it happens at every premier league game but rarely does it involve an assault But they gang up and blindside him a few times shows exactly what sort of people they are.

Some West Brom fans have shown themselves up today if it was Millwall/Leeds/Cardiff behaving that way media would be in meltdown.

Add to that the poor stewarding West Brom have failed in front of the TV cameras.

 

[Oldskooldayz]

Typical Albion, love to give it the big un when the numbers are in their favour then nowhere to be seen when it's more even.

Shouldn't have been wolves fans in the home area and they most definitely should be keeping quiet but does a few fans in the wrong area really merit what went on? 100's came running over even after our lot had been removed and started fighting with the police for a good 10/15 minutes.

They were throwing bottles onto the pitch 1 of which apparently hit a ball boy who needed medical attention. They had fans on the pitch and even tried to get into the away end fighting stewards and police! All that for a few people in the wrong place?

If we get any charges for this I'd be lawyering up for slander it was 100% on WBA from ticket sales to stewarding and they deserve to have the book thrown at them

 

[BlahBlah]

Yet they all manage to get through the game without attacking every non-home find they can find. With the TV and phone footage I've seen, there isn't 1 second of any Wolves fans causing any trouble, or attacking anybody. Yet plenty of Albion fans making unprovoked attacks and plenty of them invading the pitch with no Wolves fans near them, they are just looking for trouble.

The media need to realise that actual evidence ranks higher than trying to force some imaginary balance. And the evidence so far appears to be that the vast majority, if not all, of the trouble was absolutely caused by Albion fans.

I watched it on TV, every corner they were giving the ****er sign right from the first corner we had when Neto took it.....and they all looked the same, shaven-headed low IQ blokes looking for trouble with no women or children present, almost as if they'd got those seats just to do that.

 

[Wolf316]

Baggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF

heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.

As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?

I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.

Fair play to him.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

I don't see how they can blame West Brom either, much as I couldn't see why they can blame Wolves for fans misbehaving in the South Bank, or chanting things, or Wolves fans selling their tickets to away supporters for games that mean nothing to us.
WBA were selling tickets for 20 quid....how much were they worth on the black market to people who are struggling for cash to live? 100? 200?
It's a cup tie with little notice, how does anybody sort out ticket arrangements when usual rules don't apply, and pretty much every workplace has a mixture of supporters who quite happily work together all week, but only disassociate from each other for a football match?
If people cannot behave without rioting, that's societal problem, not a football problem.

Exactly, fans do not stay in "their" end in any sport anymore. If you want to go and watch any premier league game you can buy a ticket legitimately from a broker and you won't be sitting with your own fans. They give you chicken and chips, call it a corporate ticket and the expectation is that people know how to behave and that is their personal responsibility.

I’m not sure I agree.

If you buy a corporate ticket, you are told, no club colours, home or away, and to behave respectfully. I was in Club Wembley for the FA Cup Semi with my son, sat next to a couple of Watford fans. We celebrated when things went well, they likewise, and we chatted respectfully about the game from time to time.

My son and I sat amongst the Brighton fans for a Wolves game a couple of years ago - the one we won. It was a home end, so we didn’t celebrate, didn’t wear our colours, and watched the game happily listening to the Wolves fans in the next stand and watching us win. Couldn’t get away tickets, so it was the only option we had, and the tickets were bought legitimately from Brighton, not on the grey market. Looks to me like Wolves fans were doing likewise today, but couldn’t contain themselves when we scored the second. In a regular game, you might get a warning from the stewards for that, worse case, removed. In a BCD you run a real risk of suffering serious harm. It’s not right, but it is what it is.

 

[wolf of sedgley]

The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.

Makes for a better story.

 

[SquaddieWolf]

Baggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF

heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.

As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?

I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.

****inghell there's a decent one lol

 

[Contrarian]

The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.

They must be idiots if they think it was Wolves fans causing trouble to get the match abandoned when 2-0 up!

 

[sc91]

They’ve now invaded the pitch in 3 different games against us, let that sink in! 3 ****ing times! It’s not us it’s them, if they can’t get it they are thick as ****. There were bottles clearly thrown at Doyle? Why the **** were they selling beer if an 11.45 ko was to reduce alcohol related trouble? Honestly the **** have so many things to answer here! It’s bordering on irresponsible

I know some on here hate this talk, but another poster is bang on, the reason they do it in the ground is simple, outside Wolves always, always outnumber them. It’s just a fact, so they do it, in the fashion of hold me back hold me back. I still remember the time they got locked in for an hour after a game, funny their hard men didn’t come out that day! Sorry to lower the tone but the truths in black and white there

They're long gone when it comes to outside of the ground, usually back on their trains to Worcestershire or some ****e (because, let's be real, none of them live locally, absolute dead in terms of a local fanbase), absolute melts. Not to even condone it, just to call it as it is.

 

[BillyBoots]

I've had 2 of them telling me they out played us. Totally deluded Sa could have sat in the stands for 80 minutes

 

[SquaddieWolf]

I've had 2 of them telling me they out played us. Totally deluded Sa could have sat in the stands for 80 minutes

Presume they thought Cunha headbutted Bartleys elbow aswell lol

 

[BlahBlah]

I’m not sure I agree.

If you buy a corporate ticket, you are told, no club colours, home or away, and to behave respectfully. I was in Club Wembley for the FA Cup Semi with my son, sat next to a couple of Watford fans. We celebrated when things went well, they likewise, and we chatted respectfully about the game from time to time.

My son and I sat amongst the Brighton fans for a Wolves game a couple of years ago - the one we won. It was a home end, so we didn’t celebrate, didn’t wear our colours, and watched the game happily listening to the Wolves fans in the next stand and watching us win. Couldn’t get away tickets, so it was the only option we had, and the tickets were bought legitimately from Brighton, not on the grey market. Looks to me like Wolves fans were doing likewise today, but couldn’t contain themselves when we scored the second. In a regular game, you might get a warning from the stewards for that, worse case, removed. In a BCD you run a real risk of suffering serious harm. It’s not right, but it is what it is.

That's exactly the point, it's a societal problem. I can watch a rugby league game here, and the blokes here are bigger due to most of them playing rugby league at school and generally being taller than us anyway, you could say they are more physically threatening and capable of doing damage.
I went to one semi-final with a scouser mate and we were amazed, fans all mixed up together drinking beer and lots of banter flying back and forth...absolutely no hint of trouble, no threat. It felt really strange, my mate said on the way out he's never been to an event so important where he didn't hear a single swear word or curse all day.

How can you make a football club responsible for the personal behaviour of any individual? You can threaten them and make them accountable through punishment, but you can't hold them responsible because they didn't educate or raise these people, they only see them for 90 minutes every 2 weeks.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

That's exactly the point, it's a societal problem. I can watch a rugby league game here, and the blokes here are bigger due to most of them playing rugby league at school and generally being taller than us anyway, you could say they are more physically threatening and capable of doing damage.
I went to one semi-final with a scouser mate and we were amazed, fans all mixed up together drinking beer and lots of banter flying back and forth...absolutely no hint of trouble, no threat. It felt really strange, my mate said on the way out he's never been to an event so important where he didn't hear a single swear word or curse all day.

How can you make a football club responsible for the personal behaviour of any individual? You can threaten them and make them accountable through punishment, but you can't hold them responsible because they didn't educate or raise these people, they only see them for 90 minutes every 2 weeks.

It’s more the management of the stewards etc.

How can that many fans get onto the pitch?

Why are they selling beee bottles in the home end for them to throw if they aren’t selling it in the away end as they see it as a risk?

 

[JadeWolf]

Baggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF

heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.

As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?

I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.

Normal service is resumed later in the thread when a fan calls for Gary O’Neil to be charged by the FA for celebrating in front of his own fans

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Can we all remember these are the “Best Fans in the League, boing, boing and all that’

We mustn’t be too judgemental. They are clearly disadvantaged, struggle to engage both brain cells at the same time, and we’d all have difficulty grasping the consequences of their actions if you had six fingers on each hand.

We are all going to be subjected to CCTV pictures trying to identify the louts over the coming days in our local press and on TV. Can I call for restraint, try not to laugh too much when you see them, please make sure any children and elderly relatives are not exposed to the mug shots, and if you must print them out I suppose you could always pin them above the fire if you must.

We must not gloat the oncoming recession in Hilltop, Smethwick, Oldbury and Rowley, as they struggle to pay their fines.

Also please take a moment to think of those poor refugees that have been placed in Sandwell as they join the queue to leave the Country saddled with the shame of returning home having lived in West Birmingham.

This is not the time to enjoy taking the moral high ground, this is time to think of the impacts on innocent fans of our neighbours who will now face huge fines, loss of income and the ignominious accolade of having Jimmy Saville and Vicky Pollard as their poster boy and girl for the next ten years.

 

[Stafford]

Some ***** in the daily mail blaming both sets of fans then having a pop at O'Neil

 

[Wolf316]

Some ***** in the daily mail blaming both sets of fans then having a pop at O'Neil

Expect anything less than bull**** from the Mail?

 

[Ercall Wolves]

Can we all remember these are the “Best Fans in the League, boing, boing and all that’

We mustn’t be too judgemental. They are clearly disadvantaged, struggle to engage both brain cells at the same time, and we’d all have difficulty grasping the consequences of their actions if you had six fingers on each hand.

We are all going to be subjected to CCTV pictures trying to identify the louts over the coming days in our local press and on TV. Can I call for restraint, try not to laugh too much when you see them, please make sure any children and elderly relatives are not exposed to the mug shots, and if you must print them out I suppose you could always pin them above the fire if you must.

We must not gloat the oncoming recession in Hilltop, Smethwick, Oldbury and Rowley, as they struggle to pay their fines.

Also please take a moment to think of those poor refugees that have been placed in Sandwell as they join the queue to leave the Country saddled with the shame of returning home having lived in West Birmingham.

This is not the time to enjoy taking the moral high ground, this is time to think of the impacts on innocent fans of our neighbours who will now face huge fines, loss of income and the ignominious accolade of having Jimmy Saville and Vicky Pollard as their poster boy and girl for the next ten years.

Really enjoyed reading that

 

[tonto]

I know they shouldn’t be in their end but does that give them free licence to thump them on the head? Hope they are arrested.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1751697093545070620

Grown men setting about a bit of a kid ban em for life

 

[SquaddieWolf]

Some ***** in the daily mail blaming both sets of fans then having a pop at O'Neil

Just read it, slagging him off for celebrating ffs