The teams at the top can afford to spend the most and that’s why they’ll stay there and this status quo will continue unless there’s a change in the regulations etc. Villa may well make the Champions League this year but I doubt very much whether they’ll make the top 6 next year and will probably be hit by UEFA penalties and possibly by the PL as well.Agree the VAR at times is a joke but last time I looked the teams at the top spent more money and had more expensive players .
So move with the times or get left behind no surprise Villa and Newcastle moved up to champions League positions after large investment in quality. Not VAR as for me if we create more chances and have quality upfront we score more goals .
Not known many teams in the prem win it by defending have you . Possibly boring boring arsenal . But they could get that one goal and hang on.
Yes FFP might hamper teams like Newcastle but them and villa are the only teams to breach the top 4/5 . That's through bringing in quality and at a price . Sorry I don't blame var I blame owners that either want to progress or just hang In there and hope something comes good .
Put it this way a batsmen in cricket surviving though 20 overs for 34 runs or one out in 15 getting 70 who gets the headlines .
Hmmm you’ve never heard of Monty Panesar thenAgree the VAR at times is a joke but last time I looked the teams at the top spent more money and had more expensive players .
So move with the times or get left behind no surprise Villa and Newcastle moved up to champions League positions after large investment in quality. Not VAR as for me if we create more chances and have quality upfront we score more goals .
Not known many teams in the prem win it by defending have you . Possibly boring boring arsenal . But they could get that one goal and hang on.
Yes FFP might hamper teams like Newcastle but them and villa are the only teams to breach the top 4/5 . That's through bringing in quality and at a price . Sorry I don't blame var I blame owners that either want to progress or just hang In there and hope something comes good .
Put it this way a batsmen in cricket surviving though 20 overs for 34 runs or one out in 15 getting 70 who gets the headlines .
you forgot to mention,I’ve said it before when annoyed, but today I’m left thinking why bother? Mine and my lads ticket cost me just shy of £1400, that’ll go up surely. I celebrated so much when we equalised, then it’s taken away. I don’t go to a music gig for a band to play a big song then stop halfway through and say nahhhhhhhh!
As bad as sone decisions used to be, this is horrendous now, I mean this season really makes me think **** it I’ll go lower league football. Genuinely think I’m close to being done with it
I have supported my home town team for 60 years and been to hundreds of matches. Started in the early sixties, after the Billy Wright and Peter Broadbent era, starting with the likes of Peter Knowles, Hughie McIlmoyle, Jimmy Melia, Ron Flowers, Fred Davies, Bobby Thompson, Duggie Woodfield to honourably mention a few.
In the seventies it was the likes of Derek Dougan, Mike Bailey, Kenny Hibbitt, Dave Wagstaffe, Frank Munro, John Richards, Derek Parkin to honourably mention a few.
In the eighties it was Andy Gray, Peter Daniel, Paul Bradshaw, Willie Carr, Mel Eves to honourably mention a few.
In the nineties it was Paul Cook, Paul Birch, Keith Downing, Mike Stowell, Keith Curle, John De Wolf, Bully, Andy Mutch to honourably mention a few.
In the naughties it was Jody Craddock, Matt Murray, Joleon Lescott, Lee Naylor, Kevin Foley, Alex Rae, Michael Kightly, SEB, Kenny Miller to honourably mention a few.
In the last 10 years it’s been Ruben Neves, Diogo Jota, Raul Jiminez, Joao Moutinho, Willy Boly, Rui Patricio to honourably mention a few.
Sorry to rabbit on, but I have to say I attended those hundreds of matches having had the pleasure to watch all those players and many others when it was a pleasure to enjoy the game as it should be played, with excitement at the night matches and beating the best teams in the country. Yes, there was controversy with referees decisions, but I thought they were human beings and accepted their decisions. We now have VAR, which is supposed to make football fairer and has numerous human beings operating it. Why is it that they get so many contentious decisions wrong?
The game I love is draining my enthusiasm and spoiling my desire to watch football as it is now. What concerns me is that it may well get worse until VAR is binned and the people running it and being well paid for making mistakes, are binned. That (very unfortunately) probably won’t happen.
We have had numerous contentious decisions go against us this season due to very poor VAR decisions. How many decisions have gone against the so called Big 6?
What the likes of the great Billy Wright, Peter Broadbent and many other of our late, great heroes make of the game as it is now, would be lovely to hear.
And they call it progress. I know what I would call it, but would be banned from the Mix if I printed my thoughts!
Spot on, chignal.you forgot to mention,
The big girls blouse excuse for men now playing today.
The Diving and cheating every tackle.
The ridiculous rolling around feigning a serious injury,
Players going down injured to break up play and for coaches to school the team,
Trying to get a fellow professional booked / sent off ,
The continuous spiting like little school kids, ( actually I apologise to the school kids)
Managers who moan about most of the above just to coach his own players to do the same,
Apart from that cant see much wrong, and not one word about the Corruption of VAR
I have but how many headlines did he have cricket related compared to say Swann or Warne, Rashid , Jadeja , Ashwin , Tahir , Murali, Herath, Adil RadhidHmmm you’ve never heard of Monty Panesar then
I watched this Man City player today on tv sitting on the subs bench non stop spitting on the artificial grass in front of him, how can we teach the grand kids good manners when they see this from so called grown ups.Spot on, chignal.
I was going to start a thread about spitting, but glad you mentioned it.
Players do it all the time, but Guardiola is starting to grate on me. Every single time the TV camera shows him, he has a mouthful of gunge spitting out of his mouth. Every single time and I am not exaggerating!
Sir Alex used to be the same and I am amazed nothing has been said about it.
I wouldn’t want to be a player going down injured any where near Guardiola. Don’t know what disease I might get!
It was probably their goalkeeper, Ederson, who was picking his nose and then spitting from the subs bench.I watched this Man City player today on tv sitting on the subs bench non stop spitting on the artificial grass in front of him, how can we teach the grand kids good manners when they see this from so called grown ups.
My old man was quite old when I was born and when I got into football about age 7 or so I couldn’t understand how my Dad didn’t bother with it. He told me he loved it when he was young playing well into his late 30’s and going down the games when work allowed but he was sick of what he called the modern game. I never understood it till a few years ago when I started feeling the same way about the game. In my Dad’s day only small changes were noticeable so what he would think of VAR, time wasting, faking head injuries, showman refs, oil money being allowed to break rules left right and centre etc etc is anyone’s guess. I’m falling out of love with it just like he did. VAR check every goal looking for ways to rule them out and when you can’t celebrate in the moment the majority of the fun and enjoyment of it diminishes.
FFP is there to preserve the same teams winning trophies year in and year out. City and Chelsea got in before it and Newcastle are prevented from joining in the same way despite having more financial muscle than any other team. Villa may well finish top 4 this year, but it will be incredibly difficult to remain there as Newcastle have found with the restrictions in place.Agree the VAR at times is a joke but last time I looked the teams at the top spent more money and had more expensive players .
So move with the times or get left behind no surprise Villa and Newcastle moved up to champions League positions after large investment in quality. Not VAR as for me if we create more chances and have quality upfront we score more goals .
Not known many teams in the prem win it by defending have you . Possibly boring boring arsenal . But they could get that one goal and hang on.
Yes FFP might hamper teams like Newcastle but them and villa are the only teams to breach the top 4/5 . That's through bringing in quality and at a price . Sorry I don't blame var I blame owners that either want to progress or just hang In there and hope something comes good .
Put it this way a batsmen in cricket surviving though 20 overs for 34 runs or one out in 15 getting 70 who gets the headlines .
Great postThere's a theory that as you get older and more mature, when you've learned more about the world, yourself, your career, improved your skillset and knowledge, then it's natural to see that investing so much time into something where you completely rely on something external to make you happy is not a good idea....basically because you're giving away control of your happiness and restricting your own potential. I don't think it's a case of becoming more miserable, but perhaps as you get older you realise the value of your time more. Nobody cares when you're in your teens or 20's, but going into 30's and 40's can effect more.
I remember missing a mate's wedding because it clashed with Preston away and it was my turn to drive, and I also lay on a bench at Carlisle station platform on a cold midweek night having drunk too much in a warm pub and missed the last train. Bloody stupid things to do. Were they worth it? Of course not. They seemed like good ideas at the time.
I read an article a very long time ago of a reformed home and away supporter. It got to the point where he was in his early 40's and realised he was a slave to football on the level of an addict, it took up all his most valuable leisure time and he was sacrificing his family time and money to travel to give full attention to something that made no difference whether he was there or not.
It dominated his thinking, reading newspapers all day and checking injury lists, looking at tables, working out how to get tickets. The time and effort cost is astronomical, the emotional input is vast if you make yourself worry to try and avoid agony.....just like an addiction. But ultimately, you have no control over the outcome.
So he packed up completely cold turkey, then planned an upgrade on his life, used his extra money to travel to different countries, gave his family better holidays with the leave he hadn't wasted going to Newcastle on a Tuesday night etc.., did things he'd never done before on a weekend, like exploring his own country, taking up hobbies and learning something new, improved himself and the quality of his life.
I gave up my ST for the first time under Hoddle, it was seat D124 in the SB stand, directly over the halfway line 4 rows from the front, 3 from the end of the aisle...perfect position.
It wasn't that Hoddle was the most turgid manager i'd ever seem and i was having heart palpitations watching his teams trying not to win football matches and aiming to draw every match, it was the realisation that even under a better manager with better players the principle would be the same....it really shouldn't be the most important thing in your life with the power to make you very unhappy, so why give away that control to a bunch of strangers? Seeing how McCarthy did in his early years it was a new era, but I knew I was missing nothing and just picked my games, then got another ST a few years later....but I'd broken the addiction of thinking i had to buy one.
It's not "the hope that kills you", it's letting that hope get out of balance with everything else that's going on and making football more important than it really is.....it's still just a bunch of blokes kicking a bag of wind.
There will always be another VAR, another **** referee, another unlucky defeat, just as there will be another last minute winner, a glorious victory, another giant-killing cup win.
I’ve said it before when annoyed, but today I’m left thinking why bother? Mine and my lads ticket cost me just shy of £1400, that’ll go up surely. I celebrated so much when we equalised, then it’s taken away. I don’t go to a music gig for a band to play a big song then stop halfway through and say nahhhhhhhh!
As bad as sone decisions used to be, this is horrendous now, I mean this season really makes me think **** it I’ll go lower league football. Genuinely think I’m close to being done with it
As someone who was in favour of its introduction - VAR simply has to be repealed at this point. Going back to the previous era of errors will be no less erroneous than the current one, and will at least restore spontaneity. The last few years have shown me the more power you give referees, generally the worse it makes the game. Sin bins next. Despite being good on paper, they will make the game even worse than it is when applied by this lot.Unless VAR massively improves I will not be renewing my season ticket.
been saying it for 2 seasons now , the only reason for going is you and the lads we all go with , the day is brilliant ruined by var , I’m as much Wolves as anybody on this site but I look for reasons not to go , I’ve spent all my life following Wolves to be where we are , can we go back to division 4 and have football at 3 on a Saturday and no more ****in var please utwI’ve said it before when annoyed, but today I’m left thinking why bother? Mine and my lads ticket cost me just shy of £1400, that’ll go up surely. I celebrated so much when we equalised, then it’s taken away. I don’t go to a music gig for a band to play a big song then stop halfway through nahhhhhhhh!
As bad as sone decisions used to be, this is horrendous now, I mean this season really makes me think **** it I’ll go lower league football. Genuinely think I’m close to being done with it
I’m all for getting relegated back to league one mate I loved that seasonbeen saying it for 2 seasons now , the only reason for going is you and the lads we all go with , the day is brilliant ruined by var , I’m as much Wolves as anybody on this site but I look for reasons not to go , I’ve spent all my life following Wolves to be where we are , can we go back to division 4 and have football at 3 on a Saturday and no more ****in var please utw
Football has always been about highs & lows but VAR has added an artificial layer of frustration and stress that I find very hard to deal with. The fact that we appear to be stuck with it tells you where the fan sits in the pecking order.
I’m not exactly sure what problem VAR was supposed to fix, but as far as I can see all it does is try incredibly hard to find reasons to disallow goals.
I’m not even sure why we celebrate goals anymore- they’re not goals, they are only potential goals subject to VAR approval.
End of the day you are relying on Humans to still judge if a decision is correct . Unfortunately we make mistakes and that will never change .
Wow - all because of our goal getting disallowed last night?Iv said sod it and moved to Eastern Europe sold up everything
Do it!I’ve said it before when annoyed, but today I’m left thinking why bother? Mine and my lads ticket cost me just shy of £1400, that’ll go up surely. I celebrated so much when we equalised, then it’s taken away. I don’t go to a music gig for a band to play a big song then stop halfway through and say nahhhhhhhh!
As bad as sone decisions used to be, this is horrendous now, I mean this season really makes me think **** it I’ll go lower league football. Genuinely think I’m close to being done with it
No this has been a long process obtaining visaWow - all because of our goal getting disallowed last night?
Do agree, we're getting the mistakes anyway, it's just ever more frustrating with the delays etc.VAR has added nothing to the game whatsoever other than double, triple, quadruple the amount of controversy and a frankly unwatchable 'product' as the PL would call themselves. Give me two linesman, a ref and a 4th official and on field officials over this ****e we're watching now. Turn VAR off and the game would be 10000% better for it.
I think if the linesman yesterday had flagged Chirewa offside, it’s a very different conversation. It’s an error by a linesman which is frustrating, but happens time to time. The linesman and the referee got it right infield yesterday. But the VAR decided to stick his nose in, and the referee buckled and gave the wrong decision. What a mess!Do agree, we're getting the mistakes anyway, it's just ever more frustrating with the delays etc.
Need to go back to how it was, accept officials will sometime make errors and crack on with it.
We’re being treated by mugs, our loyalty taken for granted. Paying more and more money for tickets. Ridiculous kick off times with no thought for the fans travelling to and from the game. Abysmal food inside the ground. And VAR which seems like a good idea but has been so badly applied by the Premier League that no one likes it wants it or agrees with it.Thing I’m getting here and I feel the same, is love the wolves don’t love football
Unfortunately, we're going to see specialist VAR Refs soon enough!I think if the linesman yesterday had flagged Chirewa offside, it’s a very different conversation. It’s an error by a linesman which is frustrating, but happens time to time. The linesman and the referee got it right infield yesterday. But the VAR decided to stick his nose in, and the referee buckled and gave the wrong decision. What a mess!
Next season don’t worry there is VAR use for corners, free kicks and throw ins!!What’s the point in VAR when it doesn’t correct on field errors, but creates new errors and then changes the rules week to week to justify itself.
We may as well go back to the old system where the odd ref would come along once or twice a season and cheat us.