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I bet we do.Knowing the FA , wolves will get fined
I bet we do.Knowing the FA , wolves will get fined
For example....I thought the stewarding today was appalling.
I just don't see the appeal , can't celebrate a goal or anything
It's called editorial balanceThe BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.
Excuses will be rolled our today for there behaviour but it is all on them.
If there was Wolves fans in the home end maybe its not right it happens regularly at games, but the blames on the club for the ticketing system or one of there fans for selling a seat but you stay in your seat and let the stewards/police deal with it no doubt there will be united fans in our end on Thursday but I doubt we will have several 100 fans creating a riot.
It's called editorial balance
And used to be somebody’s uncle/father.Just think.......very possibly that woman is somebody's sister/mother.......
This one?The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.
I don't see how they can blame West Brom either, much as I couldn't see why they can blame Wolves for fans misbehaving in the South Bank, or chanting things, or Wolves fans selling their tickets to away supporters for games that mean nothing to us.
WBA were selling tickets for 20 quid....how much were they worth on the black market to people who are struggling for cash to live? 100? 200?
It's a cup tie with little notice, how does anybody sort out ticket arrangements when usual rules don't apply, and pretty much every workplace has a mixture of supporters who quite happily work together all week, but only disassociate from each other for a football match?
If people cannot behave without rioting, that's societal problem, not a football problem.
Exactly, fans do not stay in "their" end in any sport anymore. If you want to go and watch any premier league game you can buy a ticket legitimately from a broker and you won't be sitting with your own fans. They give you chicken and chips, call it a corporate ticket and the expectation is that people know how to behave and that is their personal responsibility.
Fair play mate, hope you enjoyed the dayYes I agree.....they just frustrate me them lot and it's been a long day......but all I'm meant in reality is that it is going to go on but if you are like that then keep it out of the ground.....but you are right....
It's called editorial balance
I know they shouldn’t be in their end but does that give them free licence to thump them on the head? Hope they are arrested.
Yet they all manage to get through the game without attacking every non-home find they can find. With the TV and phone footage I've seen, there isn't 1 second of any Wolves fans causing any trouble, or attacking anybody. Yet plenty of Albion fans making unprovoked attacks and plenty of them invading the pitch with no Wolves fans near them, they are just looking for trouble.
The media need to realise that actual evidence ranks higher than trying to force some imaginary balance. And the evidence so far appears to be that the vast majority, if not all, of the trouble was absolutely caused by Albion fans.
Fair play to him.Baggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF
heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.
As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?
I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.
I don't see how they can blame West Brom either, much as I couldn't see why they can blame Wolves for fans misbehaving in the South Bank, or chanting things, or Wolves fans selling their tickets to away supporters for games that mean nothing to us.
WBA were selling tickets for 20 quid....how much were they worth on the black market to people who are struggling for cash to live? 100? 200?
It's a cup tie with little notice, how does anybody sort out ticket arrangements when usual rules don't apply, and pretty much every workplace has a mixture of supporters who quite happily work together all week, but only disassociate from each other for a football match?
If people cannot behave without rioting, that's societal problem, not a football problem.
Exactly, fans do not stay in "their" end in any sport anymore. If you want to go and watch any premier league game you can buy a ticket legitimately from a broker and you won't be sitting with your own fans. They give you chicken and chips, call it a corporate ticket and the expectation is that people know how to behave and that is their personal responsibility.
Makes for a better story.The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.
****inghell there's a decent one lolBaggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF
heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.
As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?
I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.
The BBC write up is trying to make sure as much of the blame as possible is shared.
They're long gone when it comes to outside of the ground, usually back on their trains to Worcestershire or some ****e (because, let's be real, none of them live locally, absolute dead in terms of a local fanbase), absolute melts. Not to even condone it, just to call it as it is.They’ve now invaded the pitch in 3 different games against us, let that sink in! 3 ****ing times! It’s not us it’s them, if they can’t get it they are thick as ****. There were bottles clearly thrown at Doyle? Why the **** were they selling beer if an 11.45 ko was to reduce alcohol related trouble? Honestly the **** have so many things to answer here! It’s bordering on irresponsible
I know some on here hate this talk, but another poster is bang on, the reason they do it in the ground is simple, outside Wolves always, always outnumber them. It’s just a fact, so they do it, in the fashion of hold me back hold me back. I still remember the time they got locked in for an hour after a game, funny their hard men didn’t come out that day! Sorry to lower the tone but the truths in black and white there
Presume they thought Cunha headbutted Bartleys elbow aswell lolI've had 2 of them telling me they out played us. Totally deluded Sa could have sat in the stands for 80 minutes
I’m not sure I agree.
If you buy a corporate ticket, you are told, no club colours, home or away, and to behave respectfully. I was in Club Wembley for the FA Cup Semi with my son, sat next to a couple of Watford fans. We celebrated when things went well, they likewise, and we chatted respectfully about the game from time to time.
My son and I sat amongst the Brighton fans for a Wolves game a couple of years ago - the one we won. It was a home end, so we didn’t celebrate, didn’t wear our colours, and watched the game happily listening to the Wolves fans in the next stand and watching us win. Couldn’t get away tickets, so it was the only option we had, and the tickets were bought legitimately from Brighton, not on the grey market. Looks to me like Wolves fans were doing likewise today, but couldn’t contain themselves when we scored the second. In a regular game, you might get a warning from the stewards for that, worse case, removed. In a BCD you run a real risk of suffering serious harm. It’s not right, but it is what it is.
It’s more the management of the stewards etc.That's exactly the point, it's a societal problem. I can watch a rugby league game here, and the blokes here are bigger due to most of them playing rugby league at school and generally being taller than us anyway, you could say they are more physically threatening and capable of doing damage.
I went to one semi-final with a scouser mate and we were amazed, fans all mixed up together drinking beer and lots of banter flying back and forth...absolutely no hint of trouble, no threat. It felt really strange, my mate said on the way out he's never been to an event so important where he didn't hear a single swear word or curse all day.
How can you make a football club responsible for the personal behaviour of any individual? You can threaten them and make them accountable through punishment, but you can't hold them responsible because they didn't educate or raise these people, they only see them for 90 minutes every 2 weeks.
Normal service is resumed later in the thread when a fan calls for Gary O’Neil to be charged by the FA for celebrating in front of his own fansBaggies fans here After Match Debate are pretty disgusted by their own fans TBF
heres one example:
Appalled, ashamed and embarrassed but not by the result or the performance but by West Brom fans. The performance was actually pretty reasonable given the injury situation and there were a few chances that could have been converted but ultimately, Premier League quality in the final third killed us off.
As for the fans and the suspension in play, it’s going to be discussed a lot on here this week but I’m appalled and ashamed. If you want to smash someone’s head in for supporting a different football club, football isn’t for you. “Oh but they were sat in the home end” I hear you cry. So what? I’m sure people on here are related to Wolves fans, people will work with them, people will live next door to them and some will have friends who support them. People shouldn’t be getting attacked for supporting a football club. I don’t care that it’s Wolves and I don’t care that it’s the derby. Today was an embarrassment and I’m ashamed of West Bromwich Albion fans. One of our own players seemingly refused to play on after his family were in the vicinity of the mindless thugs. Children and women around and they’re behaving like that?
I hope the club gets serious, identifies them all and bans them all for life.
Expect anything less than bull**** from the Mail?Some ***** in the daily mail blaming both sets of fans then having a pop at O'Neil
Really enjoyed reading thatCan we all remember these are the “Best Fans in the League, boing, boing and all that’
We mustn’t be too judgemental. They are clearly disadvantaged, struggle to engage both brain cells at the same time, and we’d all have difficulty grasping the consequences of their actions if you had six fingers on each hand.
We are all going to be subjected to CCTV pictures trying to identify the louts over the coming days in our local press and on TV. Can I call for restraint, try not to laugh too much when you see them, please make sure any children and elderly relatives are not exposed to the mug shots, and if you must print them out I suppose you could always pin them above the fire if you must.
We must not gloat the oncoming recession in Hilltop, Smethwick, Oldbury and Rowley, as they struggle to pay their fines.
Also please take a moment to think of those poor refugees that have been placed in Sandwell as they join the queue to leave the Country saddled with the shame of returning home having lived in West Birmingham.
This is not the time to enjoy taking the moral high ground, this is time to think of the impacts on innocent fans of our neighbours who will now face huge fines, loss of income and the ignominious accolade of having Jimmy Saville and Vicky Pollard as their poster boy and girl for the next ten years.
Grown men setting about a bit of a kid ban em for lifeI know they shouldn’t be in their end but does that give them free licence to thump them on the head? Hope they are arrested.
Just read it, slagging him off for celebrating ffsSome ***** in the daily mail blaming both sets of fans then having a pop at O'Neil