VancouverWolf
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I think Dawson and Podence had more impact on us staying up but it’s just my opinion.loppy saved us.
short memories indeed.
I think Dawson and Podence had more impact on us staying up but it’s just my opinion.loppy saved us.
short memories indeed.
And, pray tell us, what do you think of the job GON has done for us, since your so called saviour left us in the lurch?loppy saved us.
short memories indeed.
If it’s anything but bloody brilliant then he’s a troll.And, pray tell us, what do you think of the job GON has done for us, since your so called saviour left us in the lurch?
**** him.I thought O'Neil's outstanding work would soften the stance towards Lopetegui.
He inherited a club in a mess and going down. He kept us up. He walked when promises were broken.
If we had then failed and gone backwards, I could perhaps understand resentment towards him.
Instead, we've kicked on and have O'Neil doing a great job. So why can't we appreciate Lopetegui took us out of the **** and O'Neil has built on his good work by doing superbly well?
Yes, his interviews were annoying, but even his biggest critics will acknowledge he had a point with how it plays out.
Him running his mouth was a small price to pay for keeping us in the league. He's gone, we've improved. Happy days.
**** him.
All this GON built on his good work stuff is absolute nonsense.
We are fitter, more of a threat going forward, defensively more solid at defending set pieces and are a far more entertaining side than we had under the Primark Joe, and all after losing Neves, Raul, Nunes, Traore, Podence, Moutinho and Collins.
That is a ridiculous pool of players to be losing, and still smashing it.
We owe Primark Jose nothing but disdain. He was wrong.
If anything, it shows how good GON is, and how wrong Primark Jose was in thinking we aren't good enough to make an impact.
Shows how limited a coach he is.
Was it that big with the players we had? Did he have that big an impact? Maybe I am being a little unfair, but I cannot stand what he did to this club, and I am over the moon he is still out of work.Well it's not as O'Neil was only coming into a Premier League club because of Lopetegui.
I agree about the things you say in terms of fitness, goals etc. but that only requires praising O'Neil, not slamming Lopetegui.
I don't think you can call him limited with his CV. Ultimately, he arrived here with one massive job, and he achieved the goal we wanted.
I wasn't pleased with how he left but I recognise he kept us up which was a massive task.
Don’t you remember?….He was the guy who was crying when he left.Lopetegui who?
That ****ed me right off. Crocodile tears.Don’t you remember?….He was the guy who was crying when he left.
(like I believe that pr nonsense).
We also need to recognize that Jeff &co. brought Gary in……he didn’t just get off at the wrong bus stop.**** him.
All this GON built on his good work stuff is absolute nonsense.
We are fitter, more of a threat going forward, defensively more solid at defending set pieces and are a far more entertaining side than we had under the Primark Joe, and all after losing Neves, Raul, Nunes, Traore, Podence, Moutinho and Collins.
That is a ridiculous pool of players to be losing, and still smashing it.
We owe Primark Jose nothing but disdain. He was wrong.
If anything, it shows how good GON is, and how wrong Primark Jose was in thinking we aren't good enough to make an impact.
Shows how limited a coach he is.
Let's be honest, Shi ****ed up moneywise. A stronger CEO would have said no to PJWe also need to recognize that Jeff &co. brought Gary in……he didn’t just get off at the wrong bus stop.
For the sake of balance, Jeff and co also almost brought in Michael Beale. If that had happened we'd be mid table in the Championship now.We also need to recognize that Jeff &co. brought Gary in……he didn’t just get off at the wrong bus stop.
Gawd…..I hate it when you’re right.For the sake of balance, Jeff and co also almost brought in Michael Beale. If that had happened we'd be mid table in the Championship now.
Mid table in the championship? You're the glass half full sort!For the sake of balance, Jeff and co also almost brought in Michael Beale. If that had happened we'd be mid table in the Championship now.
GON has been fantastic. absolutely wonderful as i’ve been saying for weeks.And, pray tell us, what do you think of the job GON has done for us, since your so called saviour left us in the lurch?
I was a big fan of JL before he came but the second paragraph is exactly how I feel. He didn’t ever feel “ours” or indeed that he actually wanted to be here.Was devastated when Lopetegui left, and astounded when GON was appointed.
Yet, Lopetegui never really felt like he was our manager. Can’t quite explain it.
Yet Gary on the other hand. Things just feel right again at the moment. The squad and manager seem made for each other.
Really not sure where Lopetegui goes from here. The Angel for a curry with Bully perhaps?
Will you be getting the boob job in the summer when finances look better though, that’s the big question?Apologies as it was me who dredged this thread up. Didn't want to start a new Lopetegui thread and it wasn't my intention to start any mudslinging. It's just that since Forest and Everton have been charged with breaking the financial rules I've been thinking about how it has really changed the narrative further regarding Lopetegui's decision to leave.
Since all that broke, the press have continually used us as a justification for charging Forest and Everton because we were prepared to get our house in order by selling key players and losing our manager, risking our Premier League status in doing so. I think in English football in general, that's portrayed Lopetegui in a negative light, suggesting he was being unreasonable. On top of that, GON has out performed him as a manager. It just hasn't been a good few weeks for him.
I've no idea where we would be in the league now if Lopetegui was still our manager. However, if he was here, that would mean we would have spent money to keep him happy (and maybe not sold a few that we did), broken the financial rules, and be facing a points deduction. I certainly don't miss the drama of the 'will he stay, will he leave' press conferences and media interviews that we had to put up with on an almost weekly basis. A bit like having a partner with a wandering eye who threatens to leave every so often unless you get that boob job you promised but can't afford anymore
Fortunately my partner hasn't got a wandering eye and knows I'm ****ing gorgeous, so I don't need one. At least, to my knowledge anyway, she hasn't mentioned it in a press conference or an interview with Guillem Balague recently.Will you be getting the boob job in the summer when finances look better though, that’s the big question?
Was devastated when Lopetegui left, and astounded when GON was appointed.
Yet, Lopetegui never really felt like he was our manager. Can’t quite explain it.
Yet Gary on the other hand. Things just feel right again at the moment. The squad and manager seem made for each other.
Really not sure where Lopetegui goes from here. The Angel for a curry with Bully perhaps?
agree. just done like people slagging off loppers when he was clearly sold a pup by the incompetent liar that is jeff shi.Great post.
I’m slightly different in that up until the moment he didn’t bring Raul on in that last game against Everton (that really irked me), I loved everything about Lopetegui (except for a couple of those away results and that awful Lamborghini song). Loved the confidence, loved the ambition, loved the passion on the touchline and was genuinely excited about what he could achieve with us.
Having done a fabulous rescue job to keep us up, where he prioritised points over style, I thought we looked genuinely brilliant in some of our pre-season games. Looked much fitter and had worked out a system that suited our runners like Nunes (who was sensational), Neto and Cunha. That United performance and set-up was where he had left us.
I actually still don’t blame him for leaving. The project he signed up to was changed twice and I think he saw himself as unable to achieve his ambitions without continued investment.
Where I have changed my mind is that I don’t blame the Club either now. At the time, I thought that for the sake of £20m on signing Alex Scott, we were throwing away the best opportunity we would have to compete with the bigger boys in my lifetime. I didn’t appreciate just how serious our financial position was and the punishments that were going to be headed our way if we didn’t get our house in order.
I was mortified by the O’Neil appointment but as I’ve said previously, the moment that he fully won me over was actually in the way he spoke after the Fulham defeat. His calm, measured comments about how these decisions were impacting the lives of the supporters and damaging his reputation as a Manager trying to make his way at a big club really resonated with me. That, along with our performances over the last 6-8 weeks, just makes him and us feel like a great fit for each other right now.
Anyway, long way of saying…
- Grateful to JL for keeping us up when we were in an awful situation (incredible to think we could have had Michael Beale).
- Don’t really blame either party for the break in the Summer. Both sides made the decisions they felt were right at the time.
- O’Neil is doing a phenomenal job and things just feel right.
All’s well that ends well.
The videos when he arrived, walking around slapping everyone on the back. I got the feeling, his thoughts were he was doing us all a big favor.I was a big fan of JL before he came but on second paragraph is exactly how I feel. He didn’t ever feel “ours” or indeed that he actually wanted to be here.
A good, balanced post which also takes-in the comment from @sedgewolf 1980. "Yet, Lopetegui never really felt like he was our manager. Can’t quite explain it."Great post.
I’m slightly different in that up until the moment he didn’t bring Raul on in that last game against Everton (that really irked me), I loved everything about Lopetegui (except for a couple of those away results and that awful Lamborghini song). Loved the confidence, loved the ambition, loved the passion on the touchline and was genuinely excited about what he could achieve with us.
Having done a fabulous rescue job to keep us up, where he prioritised points over style, I thought we looked genuinely brilliant in some of our pre-season games. Looked much fitter and had worked out a system that suited our runners like Nunes (who was sensational), Neto and Cunha. That United performance and set-up was where he had left us.
I actually still don’t blame him for leaving. The project he signed up to was changed twice and I think he saw himself as unable to achieve his ambitions without continued investment.
Where I have changed my mind is that I don’t blame the Club either now. At the time, I thought that for the sake of £20m on signing Alex Scott, we were throwing away the best opportunity we would have to compete with the bigger boys in my lifetime. I didn’t appreciate just how serious our financial position was and the punishments that were going to be headed our way if we didn’t get our house in order.
I was mortified by the O’Neil appointment but as I’ve said previously, the moment that he fully won me over was actually in the way he spoke after the Fulham defeat. His calm, measured comments about how these decisions were impacting the lives of the supporters and damaging his reputation as a Manager trying to make his way at a big club really resonated with me. That, along with our performances over the last 6-8 weeks, just makes him and us feel like a great fit for each other right now.
Anyway, long way of saying…
- Grateful to JL for keeping us up when we were in an awful situation (incredible to think we could have had Michael Beale).
- Don’t really blame either party for the break in the Summer. Both sides made the decisions they felt were right at the time.
- O’Neil is doing a phenomenal job and things just feel right.
All’s well that ends well.
Excellent.A good, balanced post which also takes-in the comment from @sedgewolf 1980. "Yet, Lopetegui never really felt like he was our manager. Can’t quite explain it."
I also never warmed to Loppy, despite him keeping us up The football for the most part was poor and he didn't solve our scoring problem in the way that GON has. Staying up was mostly built on our home form with a tight defence and 1-0 wins. Maybe that was what was required, but it wasn't pretty and it certainly wasn't entertainment.
However, this is where I disagree with @ Tring Wolf when he says "Don't blame either party for the break in the summer". I do blame Loppy for the way he left us. It was messy, unprofessional and selfish!
I've also seen some comments about Loppy having 'one job to do', which was keep us up. That was his primary job which he achieved, but he was also hired to move us forwards (after maintaining our Prem status), which he bottled because he didn't believe that he could do so without spending money and risking us falling-foul of FFP/PSR. Rather than just hold his hands up, when the financial situation became clear and walk, he preferred to undermine the club, leaving us in the lurch at the worst possible time, also taking the spine of our support staff and millions from the club coffers. For that, I don't forgive.
Anyway, all water under the bridge now and we're having our best Prem spell under GON, since pre-covid Nuno. We're again, receiving praise from those who aren't Wolves' fans and the football is entertaining. Loppy is GON and isn't coming back (see what I did there!).
When thinking about Wolves' managers in my time supporting the club, I'll remember Turner, Barnwell, McCarthy and Nuno, fondly, among those who have given me enjoyment and despite Loppy's so-called 'elite status', he won't even register and be forgotten sooner rather than later (unless this thread continues to run and run ).
Lopetegui was the supermodel - all legs and a Gucci handbag. A second mortgage required just to take her out on the town for six months. You knew that you'd be dumped when the bailiffs come knocking but that geeky librarian you went out with for eighteen months left you overcompensating for so much wasted time and so little excitement.A good, balanced post which also takes-in the comment from @sedgewolf 1980. "Yet, Lopetegui never really felt like he was our manager. Can’t quite explain it."
I also never warmed to Loppy, despite him keeping us up The football for the most part was poor and he didn't solve our scoring problem in the way that GON has. Staying up was mostly built on our home form with a tight defence and 1-0 wins. Maybe that was what was required, but it wasn't pretty and it certainly wasn't entertainment.
However, this is where I disagree with @ Tring Wolf when he says "Don't blame either party for the break in the summer". I do blame Loppy for the way he left us. It was messy, unprofessional and selfish!
I've also seen some comments about Loppy having 'one job to do', which was keep us up. That was his primary job which he achieved, but he was also hired to move us forwards (after maintaining our Prem status), which he bottled because he didn't believe that he could do so without spending money and risking us falling-foul of FFP/PSR. Rather than just hold his hands up, when the financial situation became clear and walk, he preferred to undermine the club, leaving us in the lurch at the worst possible time, also taking the spine of our support staff and millions from the club coffers. For that, I don't forgive.
Anyway, all water under the bridge now and we're having our best Prem spell under GON, since pre-covid Nuno. We're again, receiving praise from those who aren't Wolves' fans and the football is entertaining. Loppy is GON and isn't coming back (see what I did there!).
When thinking about Wolves' managers in my time supporting the club, I'll remember Turner, Barnwell, McCarthy and Nuno, fondly, among those who have given me enjoyment and despite Loppy's so-called 'elite status', he won't even register and be forgotten sooner rather than later (unless this thread continues to run and run ).
Lopetegui was the supermodel - all legs and a Gucci handbag. A second mortgage required just to take her out on the town for six months. You knew that you'd be dumped when the bailiffs come knocking but that geeky librarian you went out with for eighteen months left you overcompensating for so much wasted time and so little excitement.
Gary was intended to be little more than a bit of company whilst you got your financial affairs in order. Somehow, this unassuming and mousy woman could rustle up the most amazing meals on a shoestring. After four months you began to feel guilty that you were only using her, but another eight weeks of outstanding homemaking - without trumpets and fanfare - made you realise that love had crept up on you.
Smash West Brom and it'll be marriage and kids.
When the goalposts changed JL should have proven what a good manager he is. Just like GON has come in and is showing that he has the makings of a good manager.
It seems like his man management is good, tactically improving all the time, his handling of the media and PGMOL have been good and most importantly is winning games and giving us some attractive football.
6 months on and JL still waits for the big job, if he ends up at Palace, a club a million miles behind Wolves in terms of history and standing, there’ll be a certain irony, which will be totally lost on JL, which kind of shows why he wasn’t the right man for the job.