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Really good article from Hobbs, finally giving some transparency into how the club works behind the scenes.
He’s always going to say though isn’t he to save faceReading Hobbs’ comments Lopetegui was never leaving. Keen, Madeley and Guillem Ballbag couldn’t wait to tell us how many doubts Julen was having.
How on earth do you conclude that Coady is "back in the squad" and we are going to change formation?The obvious we already knew
Clear out time…
Very good read though, happy to see Coady back in the squad as we change formation hopefully to something more attacking 3-4-3
We already read today that RAN, Sa and Podence can leave
Fabio, Kilman, Neto, Neves, Nunes our highest assets will have interest
But more importantly Mr Hobbs remember the free agents out there we can go for
Contracts expiring
This overview shows all players whose contracts expire in the upcoming summer, sorted by their current market value.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
I post it every year but it could actually save us a few quid some options below (not saying sign all of them obviously 2/3 could help us though)
Matt Doherty RB
Hamari Traore RB
Alejandro Catena CB
Gerardo Arteaga LB
Ellyes Skhiri DM
Dani Ceballos DM
Ryan Kent LM
And it will take time to sell because I suspect clubs wont exactly be queueing up in bidding wars so any who are interested can play the waiting game and grind us down. We are going to have to bite the bullet and get some in before we sell.And if it takes a while to sell so miss out on our targets?
And it will take time to sell because I suspect clubs wont exactly be queueing up in bidding wars so any who are interested can play the waiting game and grind us down. We are going to have to bite the bullet and get some in before we sell.
Coady will be back that’s my personal thoughts and formation from when Hobbs said we are going to try something new….How on earth do you conclude that Coady is "back in the squad" and we are going to change formation?
Hobbs actual words are "He’s made it clear he’d like to come back, however there’s obviously a lot of interest in him, but the manager is speaking to him soon to get a feel for him and see what Conor wants" Yet you have us going back to Nuno ball which ain't Lopetegui's way in case you haven't noticed.
That is the most likely, I think.Or 3) We spent more than we wanted to in January and now can’t spend so much this summer.
Deary me !!!Fabio not being mentioned should be a given that he is our main striker
Sounds very much like they're was either a fairly major and fundamental misunderstanding or Lopetegui was misled. Either way it raises serious questions about how the club is being run.
But if Lopetegui had walked no manager would be able to trust anything Jeff said so attracting anyone any good would be nigh on impossible.I take the opposite view.
I think back to the mess Wolves were in when they fired the fraud who was going to deliver relegation. They set their sights on an elite manager and he'd said no. They were so desperate, they were considering Beale. When Shi is sat in front of Lopetegui, if the main thrust of Jeff's presentation to him was that he would give him all the financial resources he needed to help the club escape relegation, but he decided to totally omit that this would also mean the Summer window would be a tight squeeze, so be it.
Shi's objective was to get the best manager he possibly could. He did. If he'd decided to make a pitch to Lopetegui with all cards on the table and that had resulted in Lopetegui saying, nah, Shi would have failed and Wolves would most likely have gone down. The Summer budget issue was something future Jeff could worry about as and when Wolves safety had been confirmed. If it meant Lopetegui walked, I'd have made the assessment Jeff did that this would be a worthwhile price to pay. The alternative is to look at what Leeds did, a hail Mary to Big Sam, too late.
I also think it Wolves had ended up with Beale and gone down, if it then emerged that the reason Lopetegui couldn't be persuaded to come was because Jeff had told him, we'll give you money in January but we have to take it all away again in the Summer, I for one would have found that to be a very naive way of doing business. Stopping short of outright lying to the man, a failure to focus discussions on the negative aspects of the Summer budget when trying to lure a very in-demand manager to the job seems entirely prudent to me. I'd have done the same in Jeff's shoes. In fact I'd go further, I'd have been willing to tell Lopetegui whatever he wanted to hear in order to get him through the door. Avoid the drop and then reassess from a position of greater strength than we were in before Christmas.
This is one very rare scenario where I don't have any blame or criticism for either party. Lopetegui has every right to have been annoyed by having the tight Summer budget dropped on him. Jeff had every right not to mention it when he was trying to entice Lopetegui to join.
We unfortunately held onto player too long. That was either by design or by fault. Realistically Neves, Traore and Jiminez should have gone similar time to Jota. Would have been a massive rebuild but that’s when their stock was highest.good points. So far the following are gone
costa-free
traore- free
moutinho-free
it exemplifies that transfer fees are an expense…how much has Fabio cost to date? Could we recover that? Next year neves will be free….soon after fabio will be free.
sell to buy is an admission the original purchases were a mistake ( or a naive view that you can profit trading players?)
Await summer activity …
Yes. What a load of *******s that was. We had the ideal position to push on when qualifying for Europe. Typically though , we threw that chance away.What was it now ?? oh yes i remember " the Next man city in 10 years" Fosun
Leeds had 7 points after 3 games...Good to see communication coming out of the club.
A bit concerning though that it looks like we’ll be getting players in late again. The shocking start nearly killed us last season.
Yea but still, the shocking start last season nearly killed usLeeds had 7 points after 3 games...
The squad was badly in prepared on and off the pitch...for the start of the season last year.. .the subs bench was shocking at Leeds.... obviously it helps to be prepared but the first 4 games aren't the bee all and end all .. a good run between November n march is what you want .. which is what Leeds n Leicester didn't do.Yea but still, the shocking start last season nearly killed us
good points. So far the following are gone
costa-free
traore- free
moutinho-free
it exemplifies that transfer fees are an expense…how much has Fabio cost to date? Could we recover that? Next year neves will be free….soon after fabio will be free.
sell to buy is an admission the original purchases were a mistake ( or a naive view that you can profit trading players?)
Await summer activity …
I agree. I was being a pedantic knobhead!! The first two months fixtures are rubbish but we’ve got a good manager with a great fitness and medical team on board, im thinking we can surprise a few early on.The squad was badly in prepared on and off the pitch...for the start of the season last year.. .the subs bench was shocking at Leeds.... obviously it helps to be prepared but the first 4 games aren't the bee all and end all .. a good run between November n march is what you want .. which is what Leeds n Leicester didn't do.
he was clearly thinking about it, that’s for sure.Reading Hobbs’ comments Lopetegui was never leaving. Keen, Madeley and Guillem Ballbag couldn’t wait to tell us how many doubts Julen was having.
The alternative approach would have been to be clear and open with Lopetegui, and offer him a role to the end of the season with significant funds available in January, with both sides having an option to re-visit in the summer depending on outcome of the season. Personally I don’t think it’s smart and certainly not good business sense to bring in your most important employee (or any employee) on false pretences if that is what has happened. Integrity matters.I take the opposite view.
I think back to the mess Wolves were in when they fired the fraud who was going to deliver relegation. They set their sights on an elite manager and he'd said no. They were so desperate, they were considering Beale. When Shi is sat in front of Lopetegui, if the main thrust of Jeff's presentation to him was that he would give him all the financial resources he needed to help the club escape relegation, but he decided to totally omit that this would also mean the Summer window would be a tight squeeze, so be it.
Shi's objective was to get the best manager he possibly could. He did. If he'd decided to make a pitch to Lopetegui with all cards on the table and that had resulted in Lopetegui saying, nah, Shi would have failed and Wolves would most likely have gone down. The Summer budget issue was something future Jeff could worry about as and when Wolves safety had been confirmed. If it meant Lopetegui walked, I'd have made the assessment Jeff did that this would be a worthwhile price to pay. The alternative is to look at what Leeds did, a hail Mary to Big Sam, too late.
I also think it Wolves had ended up with Beale and gone down, if it then emerged that the reason Lopetegui couldn't be persuaded to come was because Jeff had told him, we'll give you money in January but we have to take it all away again in the Summer, I for one would have found that to be a very naive way of doing business. Stopping short of outright lying to the man, a failure to focus discussions on the negative aspects of the Summer budget when trying to lure a very in-demand manager to the job seems entirely prudent to me. I'd have done the same in Jeff's shoes. In fact I'd go further, I'd have been willing to tell Lopetegui whatever he wanted to hear in order to get him through the door. Avoid the drop and then reassess from a position of greater strength than we were in before Christmas.
This is one very rare scenario where I don't have any blame or criticism for either party. Lopetegui has every right to have been annoyed by having the tight Summer budget dropped on him. Jeff had every right not to mention it when he was trying to entice Lopetegui to join.
he was clearly thinking about it, that’s for sure.
Our **** start, which came from going into the season with the squad underprepared, is why we went into the World Cup bottom of the table. We were saved by the World Cup break and a £75m spend in January.Leeds had 7 points after 3 games...
The alternative approach would have been to be clear and open with Lopetegui, and offer him a role to the end of the season with significant funds available in January, with both sides having an option to re-visit in the summer depending on outcome of the season. Personally I don’t think it’s smart and certainly not good business sense to bring in your most important employee (or any employee) on false pretences if that is what has happened. Integrity matters.
Our **** start, which came from going into the season with the squad underprepared, is why we went into the World Cup bottom of the table. We were saved by the World Cup break and a £75m spend in January.
If we get Nunes and Cunha firing more consistently, Sarabia to find his feet in the Premier League, Neto to regain his form and Fabio and Kalajdzic back in, coupled with a few astute signings and a full pre-season under Lopetegui, then I'm confident we'll be top half
The form since Xmas was just that, and from a side that could barely muster a point, so I just don't get the negativity. A couple of hammerings once we were safe have clouded what was an incredible turnaround from Lopetegui. The guy is top drawer
Who's saying Scott or Gyokeres would have been successes? Scott would have probably played less than Cunha and we'd be having the debate Gyokeres vs Costa. Personally think Scott is a good 18 months away from being a PL regular and have major doubts that Gyokeres will ever be that level. Cunha has shown - albeit in flashes - he has serious ability, as things stand he's way ahead of both Scott and GyokeresCunha and Guedes purchases have hamstrung us. I’d love to know who decided to splash ridiculous amounts on these two bang average players. We could basically have got Scott and Gykores for what we paid for Cunha
Yes it did .....just glad we wasn't prepared like Leeds was....Our **** start, which came from going into the season with the squad underprepared, is why we went into the World Cup bottom of the table. We were saved by the World Cup break and a £75m spend in January.
Hopefully some sales are around the corner so we can start to add to the squad soon.
And if Lopetegui hadn't come in the first place, Wolves would be planning their Summer budget for the Championship and would be in an even more frantic position having to sell players at knockdown prices. If Jeff had to omit the true nature and difficulties of the financial position / FFP constraints in order to get Lopetegui to sign, I will not criticise him at all for that approach. But I definitely would have criticised him if he presented the full picture to Lopetegui and he hadn't come. And how do we know it's likely he would not have come? Because he's made it quite clear how unhappy he is with the spending constraints he only just learned of. I'd say if they were presented to him up front, he'd have said no to the job and Wolves would be in a much bigger mess.But if Lopetegui had walked no manager would be able to trust anything Jeff said so attracting anyone any good would be nigh on impossible.
The whole spell before the World Cup was bad. We couldn't score goals and were forced to sign a semi-retired striker on a free transfer.We were 14th after 6 games.
It was from games 7 on until the Christmas break that were really bad, especially the ones managed by Davis.
oh for sure, it’s what put me off being a journalist many years ago. doesn’t mean he wasn’t thinking of leaving though.Yes... but you have to remember that Keen, Madely and Ballague directly benefitted from the mass hysteria they managed to induce - how many more clicks did those articles get than "Lopetegui in daily amicable discussions with Wolves around future spending plans" would have?
The whole spell before the World Cup was bad. We couldn't score goals and were forced to sign a semi-retired striker on a free transfer.
scary stuff when you see it like thisYes, I agree - but it wasn't until game 9 that we actually dropped into the bottom 3 properly.
Between games 7 (0-2 v Liverpool) and 16 (0-2 v Arsenal ) just before the break we won 1, drew 1 and lost the rest. That was the stretch that put the pressure on.
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