Even if all this were true and evidence did exist to support it I cannot see that it will ever be made public, or that Wolves will receive anything more than a diplomatic response to anything they have raised. Unless there is an appetite for litigation by the club, which I doubt there is, the matter will be forgotten by all except Wolves supporters.
Some interesting points here;
Which underscores the point, that any litigation is extremely unlikely and any other form of concession, or admission of guilt, by anyone within the football authorities is just not happening. It's over!
The offside rule has been made so complex, indecipherable and defiant of common sense, it has escaped the reasonable understanding of the common man who watches the game. Good luck explaining it to your spouse these days. The law should be rebuilt from the ground up on the basis of sensible material advantage.
But Nunes was clearly onside when the ball was played by Hwang, (probably onside when played by Collins too, although that is not relevant given the law).
Absolutely he was onside, but even if he weren't, he had to move away from the opponent's goal and the Liverpool defensive line to receive the pass. If anything he was slightly disadvantaged by his initial position. This is a rule they apparently and inexplicably changed some time ago. If a player is onside when he receives the ball, there isn't really a credible argument to flag them in my opinion.
I think all we could expect is an apology with some lame 'explanation' for the 'mix-up', but we won't even get that given PGMOL's refusal to acknowledge that any of its members could ever have been anything but 100% correct.
Hear hear.
That’s my guess. And with there being no available VAR camera, it kinda begs the question why he would do that.
Still seems far more likely to me that the lino said he thought it was offside and the ref just told him to flag.
Occam's razor has never been the most popular tool around here though. Why go for something plausibily simple when you can construct a complex conspiracy around things?
(Have you watched many football matches?)
That's a law that 100% needs to be changed. Farcical that the goal was allowed to stand but under the laws it's possible to see why it was. Yet if flagged offside I've no doubt it would not have been changed to a goal
Absolutely agree with all of this
Yes, there certainly does!
The "complex conspiracy" comes with the gigantic leap - from seeing some interaction between referee and linesman, which is far from "clear" in motivation or sequence of initiation, to knowing the whole thing has been set up between multiple officials and the complicity of official bodies, for personal gain, corporate advantage, or to benefit a team that one of them has sons who hold season tickets of.
personally I follow the Gourd
Because in the real world, outside of the twittersphere, no one can insist on an answer and expect to get it, from anybody unless there is a specific legal requirement for them to do so - which in these circumstances there isn't. It really is unrealistic to expect the kind of outcomes many seem to still want around this incident. There is no incentive for the football authorities, or arguably even Wolverhampton Wanderers, to debate the matter further in public.
Blessed are the cheesemakers (..... and manufacturers of other dairy products)
I think you may have misread this incident very wrongly. (terrible double negative, but you know what I mean!
)One may have been given, or be given, but I doubt it will be anything that will satisfy anyone on here - myself included - and I would certainly not anticipate there to be any follow up questions, or public cross examination. I really think we can expect very little further to come of this, in the public sphere at least. It is not going to bring the football authorities to check in any way at all. We can only hope it adds to more general dissatisfaction with the current regime, but even that is no guarantee of change.
I hope you are right, but experience tells me otherwise. Showing up at Compton costs nothing. The only real threats the authorities have to counter are, a legal challenge by the club, or a concerted campaign in the media. I can't see either as likely and at any event neither would be guaranteed success. As Wolves supporters what would we see as a positive outcome? I think the most we are likely to get is some acknowledgment of "error" and perhaps a minor scapegoat - the referee, or linesman. Is that getting to the root of the issue? If not what outcome do others see? I would like to be wrong on this.
I hope we get some feedback, as the paying customers.
The positive thing to campaign for, as a result of this incident, would be for the conversations between officials and deliberations of the VAR check to be public, as they are in other sports. What reasonable argument would they have against this?
