Oh Adama Traore!

[Ned Stark]

I don't really get all this.

Yes Adama is a good guy and he tried his best for us but at the end of the day he believed he was too good for us and so he left, it's his choice. Normally this kind of thing would result in everyone saying '**** you then, we only want players who want to play for us here' but this is largely being construed as a failure of the club to keep him here.

He really isn't that good.

 

[Wolf316]

I don't really get all this.

Yes Adama is a good guy and he tried his best for us but at the end of the day he believed he was too good for us and so he left, it's his choice. Normally this kind of thing would result in everyone saying '**** you then, we only want players who want to play for us here' but this is largely being construed as a failure of the club to keep him here.

He really isn't that good.

Yet good enough for Barcelona and Spain.

 

[Ned Stark]

Yet good enough for Barcelona and Spain.

we'll see.

how come he's never held down a first-team starting place here in three years?

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

we'll see.

how come he's never held down a first-team starting place here in three years?

Weird innit? We kept signing playing that are supposedly better for us a team. Some supposedly on the wages Adama wants. None of them have shown themselves to better.

 

[Elvis Wolf]

Latest rumour is that Barca Fans haven't taken to him and don't rate him. He's on the verge of returning to us.
For me he would be a welcome bonus, back in the squad.

 

[WolvTown]

"Oh Chiquinho"

 

[hollo]

Latest rumour is that Barca Fans haven't taken to him and don't rate him. He's on the verge of returning to us.
For me he would be a welcome bonus, back in the squad.

Either he signs an extension or we get what we can. He has messed us around.

 

[VancouverWolf]

Please don’t give an extension to someone who doesn’t want to be here.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Please don’t give an extension to someone who doesn’t want to be here.

Who knows he might come back focused on Wolves or wanting a move but not many clubs willing to offer us cash in any form even Tottenham just like Barcelona offered us some rubbish players we don’t want that.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Please don’t give an extension to someone who doesn’t want to be here.

If it gets us a better sale price, then I’d be fine. Sign a 2 year extension with a modest bump in his salary, and challenge him to show the form which had Klopp drooling. Sell for 50m and reinvest. Job done.

 

[Supadavewolf]

challenge him to show the form which had Klopp drooling.

I think, Sussex, if Klopp was really drooling over Adama, he'd now be in a Liverpool shirt!

 

[Wigan Wolf]

If it gets us a better sale price, then I’d be fine. Sign a 2 year extension with a modest bump in his salary, and challenge him to show the form which had Klopp drooling. Sell for 50m and reinvest. Job done.

I think that was diversionary tactics. He was really drooling over Jota

 

[Fenrir_]

Please don’t give an extension to someone who doesn’t want to be here.

A two year extension is the difference between him costing £10m-£12m in the final year of his contract or £25m-£35m, so it's worth a lot of money to the club

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we'd inserted something into his loan agreement to go to Barca that if it doesn't work and they don't sign him, he extends his contract here to protect his value for us

 

[JohnB]

I think that was diversionary tactics. He was really drooling over Jota

Maybe he should have bought smaller teeth then he can keep his drool in his mouth and leave us alone.

 

[VancouverWolf]

A two year extension is the difference between him costing £10m-£12m in the final year of his contract or £25m-£35m, so it's worth a lot of money to the club

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we'd inserted something into his loan agreement to go to Barca that if it doesn't work and they don't sign him, he extends his contract here to protect his value for us

”protect his value?”………..what value? Nobody wants him.

 

[Fenrir_]

”protect his value?”………..what value? Nobody wants him.

You realise that what you're saying is ridiculous? Surely

 

[VancouverWolf]

You realise that what you're saying is ridiculous? Surely

Ok, if you believe that, then show me the evidence that I’m wrong.

 

[MasWolf]

A two year extension is the difference between him costing £10m-£12m in the final year of his contract or £25m-£35m, so it's worth a lot of money to the club

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we'd inserted something into his loan agreement to go to Barca that if it doesn't work and they don't sign him, he extends his contract here to protect his value for us

This is Wolves we're talking about. Not sure is Shi and Sellers have the foresight to do such a thing. I'd be happy to be proved wrong if this is the case!

 

[Fenrir_]

Ok, if you believe that, then show me the evidence that I’m wrong.

Conte wants him at Spurs and he went to Barca, it's pretty clear clubs would like to have him and there would be plenty of takers

You know you're wrong, don't know why you have to repeatedly prove it

 

[VancouverWolf]

Conte wants him at Spurs and he went to Barca, it's pretty clear clubs would like to have him and there would be plenty of takers

You know you're wrong, don't know why you have to repeatedly prove it

Are you saying thatConte wants him now? ……..or do you mean last season when Spurs offered £15m for him?
After his loan to Barca didn‘t work out, has he got any value left for a PL club?

 

[AndyY]

"Oh Chiquinho"

Would love to seem them both in the team and running at defenders. Great options to have.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Are you saying thatConte wants him now? ……..or do you mean last season when Spurs offered £15m for him?
After his loan to Barca didn‘t work out, has he got any value left for a PL club?

This is one of a number of similar articles.

Adama Traore transfer latest: New option emerges as Tottenham reignite interest in winger

Tottenham Hotspur are reportedly the latest club to be interested in a move for Barcelona winger Adama Traore this summer.

www.teamtalk.com

 

[VancouverWolf]

This is one of a number of similar articles.

Adama Traore transfer latest: New option emerges as Tottenham reignite interest in winger

Tottenham Hotspur are reportedly the latest club to be interested in a move for Barcelona winger Adama Traore this summer.

www.teamtalk.com

Yes, seen something like that the other day but I do wonder how much truth is in it.
Guess we’ll see soon enough.

 

[Mugwump]

I've got no dramas with him coming back and signing a contract, but I hope he doesn't think he going to get the same one before he left.

 

[Sedgers]

I cannot wait to have him back as we've missed the 0.08 assists and 0.05 goals per game he contributed...

 

[Elvis Wolf]

”protect his value?”………..what value? Nobody wants him.

Says who?
Apparently Spurs have reignited their interest in signing him.

 

[OsloWolf]

Ok, if you believe that, then show me the evidence that I’m wrong.

Well, since you are the one coming out with the big statement I think it's way more fair that you come up with the evidence - that no one wants Adama Traore at their football club.

 

[fleck1]

”protect his value?”………..what value? Nobody wants him.

You're wasting your breath with some on here. Barcelona have had a try before they buy and he's spent 3 months getting splinters in his ****, Spurs wanted the world beating super star who was available for £20m but had no interest in paying £15m tops. They will be back in for him with about £10m, can sign a contract as long as he wants that 2019 ship has sailed nobody is paying £35+m for him.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

I cannot wait to have him back as we've missed the 0.08 assists and 0.05 goals per game he contributed...

People argued for months and months about Traore's impact.

Some, like you, constantly looked at the stats (fair enough), whereas others told you that his impact on the team was much more than the numbers and that he would be missed.

He leaves after playing a very important part as Wolves win four of their last five games before his move.

After he is given away to Barcelona, we are knocked out of the FA Cup by the worst time in the league and pick up 17 points from 17 games, which is significantly lower than the return we had when Traore was involved.

Yet you still have people criticising him!! It's incredible. We should be begging Fosun to get him tied down to a new deal and praying other clubs don't come in for him as his importance has been clear to see.

Some also think he somehow doesn't deserve the same terms as mentioned before as well. His importance to the team has been highlighted more than ever.

 

[wwbug]

After his history and now this second Barcelona rejection, perhaps he and his agent have a fairer idea of his worth and salary.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

After his history and now this second Barcelona rejection, perhaps he and his agent have a fairer idea of his worth and salary.

How has his stock at Wolves gone down?

As mentioned above, if I'm his agent I'm saying to Wolves you showed near relegation form when Traore wasn't involved and you picked up 34 points from 21 games when he was involved.

It's irrelevant how he's done at Barcelona. His importance to Wolves has been highlighted clearly with our results with and without him.

He would fully deserve a big contract here.

 

[WolfLing]

It’s some step down to be rejected by Barca (again), having rejected a contract here, and try en come back and play for us.

I don’t know him, so don’t know if he is a proud man, or whether he’d be willing to accept that knock to his pride and knuckle down to prove people wrong.

The easier option seems to be to go elsewhere. I’ve said it before, but I think he will start next season as Tottenham’s right wing-back.

 

[Wolf316]

It’s some step down to be rejected by Barca (again), having rejected a contract here, and try en come back and play for us.

I don’t know him, so don’t know if he is a proud man, or whether he’d be willing to accept that knock to his pride and knuckle down to prove people wrong.

The easier option seems to be to go elsewhere. I’ve said it before, but I think he will start next season as Tottenham’s right wing-back.

Can’t see it myself as he really doesn’t want to play wing-back.

 

[wwbug]

How has his stock at Wolves gone down?

As mentioned above, if I'm his agent I'm saying to Wolves you showed near relegation form when Traore wasn't involved and you picked up 34 points from 21 games when he was involved.

It's irrelevant how he's done at Barcelona. His importance to Wolves has been highlighted clearly with our results with and without him.

He would fully deserve a big contract here.

I didn’t say his stock went down , I said fairer . Which is true . The more exposure he has the more he and others will get a clearer picture . I don’t know what he wanted In January. Wolves gave him a chance to prove himself to his boyhood club and to The Premier league in front of millions . People know his worth in Spain and England better.

 

[WolfLing]

Can’t see it myself as he really doesn’t want to play wing-back.

He’s got to be realistic though. His output probably isn’t good enough to play in the front 3 at a big club.

So he plays for a club like us, or Leeds, or another club not in Europe that shows an interest.

Or if Spurs still want him, he plays Champions League football wherever Conte wants him to play. Which is probably as a wing-back.

 

[Mugwump]

People argued for months and months about Traore's impact.

Some, like you, constantly looked at the stats (fair enough), whereas others told you that his impact on the team was much more than the numbers and that he would be missed.

He leaves after playing a very important part as Wolves win four of their last five games before his move.

After he is given away to Barcelona, we are knocked out of the FA Cup by the worst time in the league and pick up 17 points from 17 games, which is significantly lower than the return we had when Traore was involved.

Yet you still have people criticising him!! It's incredible. We should be begging Fosun to get him tied down to a new deal and praying other clubs don't come in for him as his importance has been clear to see.

Some also think he somehow doesn't deserve the same terms as mentioned before as well. His importance to the team has been highlighted more than ever.

So you use certain stats to defend him, but then basically say you can't believe the stats that are critical of him

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Wasn’t there talk of Valencia wanting him? Maybe a swap for Guedes??

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

So you use certain stats to defend him, but then basically say you can't believe the stats that are critical of him

Don’t think your point is relevant.

A main argument people put up for years was that he helps the team, regardless of what his individual contribution is.

So this season we’ve had the perfect opportunity to check that, over a prolonged period so a big enough sample size.

34 points from 21 games with Traore involved.
17 points from 17 games without him.

Unfortunately for us it shows just how important he is, meaning those people were right. He brought so much to the team that couldn’t be measured in simple goals and assists, as we’ve seen.

 

[Mugwump]

Don’t think your point is relevant.

A main argument people put up for years was that he helps the team, regardless of what his individual contribution is.

So this season we’ve had the perfect opportunity to check that, over a prolonged period so a big enough sample size.

34 points from 21 games with Traore involved.
17 points from 17 games without him.

Unfortunately for us it shows just how important he is, meaning those people were right. He brought so much to the team that couldn’t be measured in simple goals and assists, as we’ve seen.

You wouldn't, because you only think stats are revelant to your side of the argument. Are you trying to tell me the only factor in our form slump was Adama leaving? So Saiss and Coady dropping in form and injuries to Neves, Semedo, Podence and Kilman had nothing to do with it?

Let's face it, he isnt worth a big contract, his output proves that. He doesn't add goal contributions. He never really has in his time here either even in his best season. Even players who have been as ineffective as Trincao and Hwang have bettered his output here, and Chiquinho has been a lot more effective in his few appearances.

 

[Evthewolf]

If he did go to Spuds, I could see him playing on the right wing. With Kane dropping deeper these days to receive the ball when they break and looking for the killer pass (a role in which he is damn good at)). He would have 2 speed merchants ahead of him, in Son and Traore and he can still get in the box to finish things off.

Pretty scary front 3 and enough to keep the best of defences on their toes. Okay, I know the counter argument will be Traore’s end product isn’t there but I think they would create that many opportunities that the law of averages would mean he still does well enough. He would also have players around him that can keep up, which Wolves don’t have.