Upcoming Internationals

[Kashmire Hawker]

For me, if we have six centre halves I'd have, in no particular order: Maguire, Stones, Tomori, Guehi, White, Coady.

We're all managers though aren't we!

Maguire obviously not in form but he's always been very strong for England. I don't think Mings will be in the squad come later this year.

One question - why pick a man in Harry - who is that bad, he happens to head against his own player!

 

[Wandsworth Wolf]

I wonder if recent events will have had an effect on Max's international allegiance?
It's possible that he's now set his sights on representing Ukraine on the world stage, rather than England.
Completely understandable.

 

[SuperGran]

I wonder if recent events will have had an effect on Max's international allegiance?
It's possible that he's now set his sights on representing Ukraine on the world stage, rather than England.
Completely understandable.

he can‘t because he played futsal for England

 

[De Wolfs Mullet]

he can‘t because he played futsal for England

I never knew that he played futsal for England

 

[SuperGran]

I never knew that he played futsal for England

Not many people knew that

 

[Perton Wolf]

So that Marc Guehi picked over Max then Ffs

He's the U21 Captain and been solid for Palace this season, it's not a bad shout to include him.

 

[Ned]

Max hit bad form in the few games Southgate watched him. Is he better than Mings? 10000% but I think the manager has proved that it’s very difficult to dislodge his favourites.

 

[Black Coffee]

Southgate and his constant hard on for the bowl cut donkey at Villa is very disturbing to me what the **** does he see in him from a footballing POV as he's proper ****. Konsa and Hause are better that says a lot I don't know one Villa fan who rates Mings.

Feel for Max but knowing how clueless Southgate is he's probably watched his poor performance against Palace game and fell in love with another one of his ex teams player and the love affair continues .

 

[Hazza]

Love to be a fly on the wall when Coady comes across Ben White

 

[AndyY]

Kilman has had two poor recent games (with mitigating circumstances) in an otherwise fantastic season. Maguire and Mings have been pants most of the season. I just don’t get it. Bizarre.
As for Sa not getting in the Portuguese squad, that is ridiculous.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Cap locking kilman may not be a priority now considering his two other international options arent available at present. But guehi was born in ivory coast so may be worth a tactical cap

Kilman, having played futsal for England, is already cap locked.

 

[WickedWolfie]

About time that someone spoke up for the prawns and shrimp of this world. Their views often go unheeded.

More mussels to their arm....

 

[WickedWolfie]

Not many people knew that

That's why every ****ing commentator tells them at least three times....

 

[Mutchy]

PLEASE DONT POST IN CAP LOCKED...

 

[ombyman]

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Kilman, having played futsal for England, is already cap locked.

I'm still not buying that futsal blocks real football caps, I imagine it could be appealed and overturned

 

[lets all have a disco]

I think kilman is a victim of the system as such ......he has proved a excellent defender in our system.....don't think England will play 3 centre backs in the two fixtures......guehi and Ben White have both played well in a back 4.......that's why they are ahead of him in my opinion.......

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

Not surprised about Kilman tbh,had a slump at worst possible time,as understandable as it is
Quite how Maguire keeps his place is another thing,been awful for a very long time
Sa not making the Portuguese squad is a farce bordering on the criminal

 

[Keyser Soze]

Doors always open for Max

https://twitter.com/x/status/1504497704856174596

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Doors always open for Max

https://twitter.com/x/status/1504497704856174596

Fair play to Southgate for addressing this. Guehi over Kilman? I disagree obviously, but I understand that they want to take a look at Guehi and Max has had a poor month. Personal preference so perhaps understandable.

Mings? Maguire? Genuine question: what do those turnips need to do to get dropped?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Taking off the gold and black spectacles both White and Guehi deserve to be in the squad before Max.

I don’t think Mings should be though

 

[Golden_Wolf]

No Kilman should be SACKABLE for Gareth!

OF COURSE - a former Crystal Palace captain would choose a Crystal Palace Centre-Back...

It's really not that deep lad, relax.

Guehi has had a good season in fairness and I think he's come through the English youth system, which they're going to favour.

Kilman probably didn't his chances any good with the West Ham & Palace games. In truth, with everything going on, probably best for Max to have a little break.

 

[AndyY]

Don’t have a problem with Guehi and White being in the squad; I do have a problem with Maguire and Mings being in the squad. Should probably pick Kilman and Tomori over those two. Form or favourites?

 

[JadeWolf]

Southgate has always had his favourites tbf and players like Pickford and Maguire are garbage at club level but seem to turn up for England.

 

[AndyY]

Southgate has always had his favourites tbf and players like Pickford and Maguire are garbage at club level but seem to turn up for England.

Maguire would probably “turn up” even if not picked!

 

[Golden_Wolf]

As much as I don't like Maguire, has he, or Pickford in fairness, ever let Southgate down in a tournament?

 

[sc91]

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I'm still not buying that futsal blocks real football caps, I imagine it could be appealed and overturned

I mean he has appealed it and it still ended up with England.

Shame for him, because **** England.

 

[Wandsworth Wolf]

he can‘t because he played futsal for England

I didn't realise Futsal counted.
I knew it had UEFA accreditation, but did realise it was a cap lock thing.

 

[AndyY]

As much as I don't like Maguire, has he, or Pickford in fairness, ever let Southgate down in a tournament?

This isnt a tournament, it is two friendlies, and we wont know if Kilman or Tomori will let Southgate down if they dint get a chance.
We know all about Maguire and Mings so there is nothing to learn. Indeed they might both benefit from the kick up the backside of being dropped
If you perform well over a season in the PL for a top 8 side i think its reasonable to assume that you should get a chance at international level. Form over a season should count more than form in a tournament a season ago.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Maguire would probably “turn up” even if not picked!

The new JT???

 

[Streathamwolf]

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I'm still not buying that futsal blocks real football caps, I imagine it could be appealed and overturned

FIFA have stated that it does.

 

[Leominster_Wolf]

As much as I don't like Maguire, has he, or Pickford in fairness, ever let Southgate down in a tournament?

Maybe not, but when Southgate first took the job he made a big point that he wouldn’t fall into old habits of picking the regulars.
He was quite clear that he would pick on form.

But he’s no different to anyone else gone previously, fills the squad with favourites irrespective of form, and throws in the odd wildcard.

 

[Perton Wolf]

Taking off the gold and black spectacles both White and Guehi deserve to be in the squad before Max.

I don’t think Mings should be though

Agreed, Mings is the poor selection, the other CBs all have their merits. Tomori also desperately unlucky to miss out considering how well he's done at Milan since joining.

 

[JR WAS KING]

Love to be a fly on the wall when Coady comes across Ben White

Ooooer missus. Not sure that Gareth will approve of that sort of thing, probably not good for team morale.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

This isnt a tournament, it is two friendlies, and we wont know if Kilman or Tomori will let Southgate down if they dint get a chance.
We know all about Maguire and Mings so there is nothing to learn. Indeed they might both benefit from the kick up the backside of being dropped
If you perform well over a season in the PL for a top 8 side i think its reasonable to assume that you should get a chance at international level. Form over a season should count more than form in a tournament a season ago.

Maybe, but he trusts & can rely on these players. I get why he goes for them & doesn't want to disrupt that.

Maybe not, but when Southgate first took the job he made a big point that he wouldn’t fall into old habits of picking the regulars.
He was quite clear that he would pick on form.

But he’s no different to anyone else gone previously, fills the squad with favourites irrespective of form, and throws in the odd wildcard.

All managers have their go to guys. Just think these are amongst those for Southgate. He can rely & trusts them.

His jobs the one on the line, so get why he falls back on those.

 

[steve vena]

Southgate and his constant hard on for the bowl cut donkey at Villa is very disturbing to me what the **** does he see in him from a footballing POV as he's proper ****. Konsa and Hause are better that says a lot I don't know one Villa fan who rates Mings.

Feel for Max but knowing how clueless Southgate is he's probably watched his poor performance against Palace game and fell in love with another one of his ex teams player and the love affair continues .

We have some of the best young, skillful, attacking talent in decades just look at the list and then there's Southgate.

 

[AndyY]

All managers have their go to guys. Just think these are amongst those for Southgate. He can rely & trusts them.

His jobs the one on the line, so get why he falls back on those.

But his job will also be on the line if he relies on his (out of form) “go to” guys in place of players in form and the “go to” guys are so out of form and lacking in confidence that they fail in the big test.
Players who are lacking confidence in one scenario are hardly likely t9 be brimming in confidence in the international scenario.

 

[Ian]

I mean he has appealed it and it still ended up with England.

Shame for him, because **** England.

So the fact Max appealed a decision locking him in to representing England would lead to the assumption that he's not really fussed about playing for England anyway.
Poor Max hit a bad patch of form at the wrong time ( understandable given the circumstances).

As for Sa, sure unlucky not to be in the squad but its a World cup play off decider, he's not going to be picked to make his debut ahead of Patricio in such a vital game.

 

[giantwolf]

Other call ups:

*Bendeguz Bolla (Hungary)
*Romain Saiss (Morocco)
*Joe Hodge (Ireland u20s)
*Willy Boly (Ivory Coast… who are due to play England)
*Hee Chan Hwang (South Korea)
*Fabio Silva (Portugal u21)
*Jack Scott (NI u21)

 

[WickedWolfie]

So the fact Max appealed a decision locking him in to representing England would lead to the assumption that he's not really fussed about playing for England anyway.
Poor Max hit a bad patch of form at the wrong time ( understandable given the circumstances).

As for Sa, sure unlucky not to be in the squad but its a World cup play off decider, he's not going to be picked to make his debut ahead of Patricio in such a vital game.

Re your first para at the time that he appealed l don't imagine that Kilman ever thought that he had a realistic shot at selection by England.

Re your second para l agree.

 

[giantwolf]

Other call ups:

*Bendeguz Bolla (Hungary)
*Romain Saiss (Morocco)
*Joe Hodge (Ireland u20s)
*Willy Boly (Ivory Coast… who are due to play England)
*Hee Chan Hwang (South Korea)
*Fabio Silva (Portugal u21)
*Jack Scott (NI u21)

*Morgan Gibbs White (England u21)