Castore

[Deleted member 5276]

“My running joke is that, ‘It’s billion or bust’, Beahon says.

I know which side of that equation I'd favour given that article. Strikes me they are people in a rush and usually when that is the situation mistakes are made.

No idea what the owners are really like but they seem to like the limelight judging from that article. Wish them well but can't help but feel in 5 years time they will be also rans, if they even exist.

 

[clivewolves]

For those with access to The Athletic there's an article on there about Castore's huge 6-year deal with Newcastle, Wolves mentioned a few times, seems we are very much 2nd fiddle when it comes to their priority given what's in the article. You get the feeling they were hoping Newcastle would get sold to the Saudis and become the next Man City and they could ride that wave for 'free'. Interesting to see if that pays off over the 6 years or not.

Castore founder explains Newcastle kit deal, Mike Ashley links, pricing and 'getting fans excited again'

Castore has agreed a six-year kit deal with Newcastle United, here the company's co-founder explains what supporters can expect

theathletic.com

Thanks for the article.

If the genuine stuff is Castore, does that make the counterfeit stuff a load of Pollux.

 

[Wonder Boyo]

For those with access to The Athletic there's an article on there about Castore's huge 6-year deal with Newcastle, Wolves mentioned a few times, seems we are very much 2nd fiddle when it comes to their priority given what's in the article. You get the feeling they were hoping Newcastle would get sold to the Saudis and become the next Man City and they could ride that wave for 'free'. Interesting to see if that pays off over the 6 years or not.

Castore founder explains Newcastle kit deal, Mike Ashley links, pricing and 'getting fans excited again'

Castore has agreed a six-year kit deal with Newcastle United, here the company's co-founder explains what supporters can expect

theathletic.com

For those with access to The Athletic, it's well worth reading the comments under the article. 99% are very negative about Castore and their owners, who appear to be experts at gilding the lilly. Apparently everything is outsourced (design and manufacturing etc.) so Castore are more of a marketing company than a sports manufacturer. Problems with quality and distribution not just 'teething problems' and also called a bunch of cowboys.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

 

[Stoichkov]

Let's get it straight, we are nowhere near either of those clubs when it comes to selling merchandise

I am sure you are right, especially since we've slipped down the list for neutral fans who saw us as an exciting new club in 2017-19.

However, I'd like to see the data. Get our kit right (better sponsor, for a start), threaten the top 8 again, get those foreign markets going again like we have done with Mexico-Jimenez, and we'd be in a healthy place.

Complete guess but I reckon Rangers sell 500,000 shirts, Newcastle 300k, and us 100k-plus? I'm sure I read a couple of years ago that we'd gone past that figure.

We could easily have a beautiful shirt, if we wanted it, but I guess the grimy Manbet cash outweighs aesthetics right now. Oh for Goodyear......

 

[Stoichkov]

For those with access to The Athletic, it's well worth reading the comments under the article. 99% are very negative about Castore and their owners, who appear to be experts at gilding the lilly. Apparently everything is outsourced (design and manufacturing etc.) so Castore are more of a marketing company than a sports manufacturer. Problems with quality and distribution not just 'teething problems' and also called a bunch of cowboys.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding.

their quotes are dreadful, with attitudes like that, they will fall flat on their face.

however i'm very encouraged by our training kit which looks a cut above Newcastle's. I just wonder if Fosun have made sure it's decent, including the 'outsourced' stuff, whereas Newcastle still have Mike Ashley in charge.....

 

[Shirtliffs shinpads]

I doubt Newcastle sell more gear than Rangers to be honest. Let's get it straight, we are nowhere near either of those clubs when it comes to selling merchandise

I spent some time up Newcastle years ago and the amount of folk walking around in NUFC gear is unbelievable, I’d actually say there’s more kit wearing folk than City and United showing in Manchester combined

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

I spent some time up Newcastle years ago and the amount of folk walking around in NUFC gear is unbelievable, I’d actually say there’s more kit wearing folk than City and United showing in Manchester combined

The barcode army. When they were Adidas the gear was quality, there is a direct correlation between sales and quality, it was apparent in Newcastle back then.

 

[Stoichkov]

I spent some time up Newcastle years ago and the amount of folk walking around in NUFC gear is unbelievable, I’d actually say there’s more kit wearing folk than City and United showing in Manchester combined

indeed, the toon on matchday is quite something to behold

however, exponentially (size of city involved) it's not that different to wolves..... i love the fact that, like newcastle, on a sunny day in wolves it feels like everyone is wearing our colours and descending on Mecca. we're very lucky to have that one-club 'city centre' feel which makes Molineux so special

 

[Pintandkebab]

As long as on the opening day of the season the numbers stay on the back and the Castore doesn't become store when the Ca fall off we will be ok .

 

[Golden_Wolf]

No longer have access to Athletic. For anyone who has read it, can you confirm if:

Are Newcastle using Castore ,or whoever Castore use, to manufacture their shirts?

Or are they taking control of production in house like we are?

 

[Wonder Boyo]

I spent some time up Newcastle years ago and the amount of folk walking around in NUFC gear is unbelievable, I’d actually say there’s more kit wearing folk than City and United showing in Manchester combined

I live in Newcastle and you're right. Been into the centre this morning and it felt like every other person was wearing something with Newcastle United on it. You hardly ever see Man United / Liverpool / Chelsea / Man City shirts there, and if you do they are normally out of town students.

Whenever I wear something Wolves related in the 'toon' I nearly always get stopped. Sometimes by Wolves fans but more often by Newcastle fans just wanting a chat. Today a bloke stopped me in Waterstones and said he was from Northern Ireland and showed me a photo on his phone that he took when viewing George Best's bedroom of a replica Wolves kit that George had as a kid.

Very very rarely I've seen blokes in Sunderland shirts. One of them was in the toilets in Fenwick's changing his top because he was getting so much abuse and said he was scared it would turn into violence!

 

[Sheriff Woody]

No longer have access to Athletic. For anyone who has read it, can you confirm if:

Are Newcastle using Castore ,or whoever Castore use, to manufacture their shirts?

Or are they taking control of production in house like we are?

Different model to ours. Appears that Newcastle have handed the whole shebang over to Castore, from design, manufacturing and retail.

I don’t have too much of a problem with what the Castore owner said, the Newcastle contract clearly is a massive deal for them and they’re relying on shifting huge numbers to make the contract worthwhile and raise the profile of the brand. Ours is very different and clearly we’re taking a bigger cut of the profits for a lower Castore investment.

 

[Wonder Boyo]

No longer have access to Athletic. For anyone who has read it, can you confirm if:

Are Newcastle using Castore ,or whoever Castore use, to manufacture their shirts?

Or are they taking control of production in house like we are?

Castore are taking over everything at Newcastle, even the running of the club store and website. Castore also in control of production.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

Different model to ours. Appears that Newcastle have handed the whole shebang over to Castore, from design, manufacturing and retail.

I don’t have too much of a problem with what the Castore owner said, the Newcastle contract clearly is a massive deal for them and they’re relying on shifting huge numbers to make the contract worthwhile and raise the profile of the brand. Ours is very different and clearly we’re taking a bigger cut of the profits for a lower Castore investment.

Castore are taking over everything at Newcastle, even the running of the club store and website. Castore also in control of production.

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Thanks for that guys.

Agree, I quite like the model we've gone for.

 

[Stourport wolf]

I spent some time up Newcastle years ago and the amount of folk walking around in NUFC gear is unbelievable, I’d actually say there’s more kit wearing folk than City and United showing in Manchester combined

Love their football up there.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I am sure you are right, especially since we've slipped down the list for neutral fans who saw us as an exciting new club in 2017-19.

However, I'd like to see the data. Get our kit right (better sponsor, for a start), threaten the top 8 again, get those foreign markets going again like we have done with Mexico-Jimenez, and we'd be in a healthy place.

Complete guess but I reckon Rangers sell 500,000 shirts, Newcastle 300k, and us 100k-plus? I'm sure I read a couple of years ago that we'd gone past that figure.

We could easily have a beautiful shirt, if we wanted it, but I guess the grimy Manbet cash outweighs aesthetics right now. Oh for Goodyear......

Seriously the reason we arent selling as many shirts as others has absolutely zero to do with the sponsor. Barcelona could be sponsored by a puppy farm and still sell millions of them.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I spent some time up Newcastle years ago and the amount of folk walking around in NUFC gear is unbelievable, I’d actually say there’s more kit wearing folk than City and United showing in Manchester combined

Absolutely that. That was always a big motivation for Ashley to buy them. Newcastle are without doubt a merchandise dream.

 

[Tony]

Seriously the reason we arent selling as many shirts as others has absolutely zero to do with the sponsor. Barcelona could be sponsored by a puppy farm and still sell millions of them.

Even with fake shirts being sold all over the city as well lol!

 

[Shirtliffs shinpads]

Seriously the reason we arent selling as many shirts as others has absolutely zero to do with the sponsor. Barcelona could be sponsored by a puppy farm and still sell millions of them.

Spot on, when they were sponsored by UNICEF I bet they only sold as many shirts as what they did with airline company’s and the like

 

[Stoichkov]

Seriously the reason we arent selling as many shirts as others has absolutely zero to do with the sponsor. Barcelona could be sponsored by a puppy farm and still sell millions of them.

Agreed, Newcastle have a betting sponsor. Just saying our sales would improve significantly (I think) with a better design / sponsor. Just my opinion.

 

[Stoichkov]

presume no new kit unveil tomorrow morning then, with RAN being announced this evening

Waiting for Trincao?

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

presume no new kit unveil tomorrow morning then, with RAN being announced this evening

Waiting for Trincao?

Or another?

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Agreed, Newcastle have a betting sponsor. Just saying our sales would improve significantly (I think) with a better design / sponsor. Just my opinion.

I'd say sales would improve slightly myself. The foreign markets don't care about that. A few years ago there were thousands of Arab kids running around with UNICEF on their midriffs.

 

[Kingswood Wolf]

This lot are the new Dryworld or Burrda, mark my miserable words.

 

[Shirtliffs shinpads]

This lot are the new Dryworld or Burrda, mark my miserable words.

Before Le coq Sportiff jumped in after Admiral in the relegation season I was told that ProStar were in place and the deal had been signed but one party reneged, how true that is I don’t know

 

[Stoichkov]

Castore are taking over everything at Newcastle, even the running of the club store and website. Castore also in control of production.

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That’s such lazy journalism - if China is the plus point then castore have missed Jimenez’s 3m followers on Twitter

 

[Stratman Wolves]

feels a bit disappointing next to the training kit. probably that disgusting sponsor.... hope we see it soon!
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Whats with these second rate kit suppliers ala these lot and burrda and putting useless black panels all over our shirt? It looks like this could've been worn by Andy Keough

 

[Dan G WWFC]

I would've gone back to lecoqsportif just because that's the first kits I remember having. No idea if they was any good

 

[freezin]

Id take the current sponsor if they took the Logo and Chinese garbage off it.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Castore adverts keep popping up on my zfB page. Their archive sale has nearly 60% off. The comments below aren’t at all complimentary. Apparently their quality have dipped significantly as they’ve grown. Biggest complaint is letters/logos coming off in the wash.

 

[Stoichkov]

Castore adverts keep popping up on my zfB page. Their archive sale has nearly 60% off. The comments below aren’t at all complimentary. Apparently their quality have dipped significantly as they’ve grown. Biggest complaint is letters/logos coming off in the wash.

Once again, wolves (or Fosun) are handling production of the fans stuff so should be different to Newcastle / rangers

 

[Mark Rankines Lovechild]

Ultimately we should be Umbro, with the diamonds down the shoulders and sleeves.
failing this I would give Hummel a try…Denmark’s kits always look good

 

[Bawtry Wolf]

Once again, wolves (or Fosun) are handling production of the fans stuff so should be different to Newcastle / rangers

Any one thought that Fosun might be interested in a purchase if they get the production right and Castore can’t.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

I know we complain about our Sponsor, but my god it's definitely not as bad as Newcastles after seeing their new top.

 

[Kingswood Wolf]

Before Le coq Sportiff jumped in after Admiral in the relegation season I was told that ProStar were in place and the deal had been signed but one party reneged, how true that is I don’t know

Blimey that would have been peak Moxey. I'd have preferred Spall to ******g ProStar

 

[Tonesterwolf]

Once again, wolves (or Fosun) are handling production of the fans stuff so should be different to Newcastle / rangers

Different (cheaper) price is a good start, been on the Newcastle shop to be nosey and their shirts are selling for £65 as oppose to ours which are staying at £55.

 

[Mark Rankines Lovechild]

Whats with these second rate kit suppliers ala these lot and burrda and putting useless black panels all over our shirt? It looks like this could've been worn by Andy Keough

I suspect that they want to take considerably less margin from the sale of each shirt than Adidas etc.
Apart from the first seasons shirts which were excellent, I don’t think the other adidas efforts were anything to write home about.

 

[WalsallWolf]

Not liking that leaked kit. I don't see and feel "Wolves" when I look at it.

 

[Urko]

Newcastle fans not happy with the number 4 design faux pas

 

[The Professional]

Newcastle fans not happy with the number 4 design faux pasView attachment 22398

It’s just awful. The design, the Castore logo looks cheap and shoddy, and the shirt sponsor is crap. Newcastle fans must be made up with this effort.