Thoughts on where this situation will go for football.

[Mrs E]

The Athletic report this morning, that League 1 and League 2 are likely to be ABANDONED next week, with Points Per Game to determine the various matters in hand.

Coventry be in the championship if that happens

 

[waggys left foot]

Does seem strange to have such a lack of consistency between the proposed approaches at different levels. Particularly within the EFL itself.

Non-League: Null and void.
L2 and L1: Points per game.
Championship: Behind Closed Doors (Home and Away).
Premier League: Neutral Venues

I think National League has just ended -as soon as they know what L1 and 2 decide to do -they can take their own decisions on promotion and relegation.

Explanation for different approaches is that lower leagues get 40 percent of their income thru the gate whereas Prem get most of theirs from tv.

 

[rincewind]

How would we all feel of it was wolves in bottom 3 but with a game in hand and talk was that of they ended it now we'd be relegated??

Its not like it's a couple of games into the season. And yes of course we would want the season made void and no relegation. But I'd like to think most of us on here could be honest enough to admit it was just about dodging a currently deserved relegation. No waffling about sporting integrity, loss of home advantage or other bull (unlike a couple of Villa fans I know).

 

[Kashmire Hawker]

Coventry be in the championship if that happens

Yep - Coventry City and Rotherham United would go up automatically, with Play Off spots filled by Wycombe Wanderers, Oxford United, Portsmouth and Fleetwood Town. Tranmere Rovers, Southend United and Bolton Wanderers will go down.

In League 2: Swindon Town, Crewe Alexander and Plymouth Argyle will secure automatic promotion, with the Play-Off spots filled by Cheltenham Town, Exeter City, Colchester United and Northampton Town. Stevenage would be relegated to the National League.

 

[waggys left foot]

Yep - Coventry City and Rotherham United would go up automatically, with Play Off spots filled by Wycombe Wanderers, Oxford United, Portsmouth and Fleetwood Town. Tranmere Rovers, Southend United and Bolton Wanderers will go down.

In League 2: Swindon Town, Crewe Alexander and Plymouth Argyle will secure automatic promotion, with the Play-Off spots filled by Cheltenham Town, Exeter City, Colchester United and Northampton Town. Stevenage would be relegated to the National League.

Suspect playoffs if they happen will be one off games at neutral venues -behind closed doors obviously.

Hope Barrow come up from National and Wealdstone from Nat League South.

 

[yateleywolf]

Does seem strange to have such a lack of consistency between the proposed approaches at different levels. Particularly within the EFL itself.

Non-League: Null and void.
L2 and L1: Points per game.
Championship: Behind Closed Doors (Home and Away).
Premier League: Neutral Venues

I felt non league should of been points per game as there was only a few games left for most clubs.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Does seem strange to have such a lack of consistency between the proposed approaches at different levels. Particularly within the EFL itself.

Non-League: Null and void.
L2 and L1: Points per game.
Championship: Behind Closed Doors (Home and Away).
Premier League: Neutral Venues

Absolutely spot on. Surely football at all levels should have the same approach, though personally, I stand by my opinion that the season should be declared null and void. It is just not worth the risk.

 

[waggys left foot]

Absolutely spot on. Surely football at all levels should have the same approach, though personally, I stand by my opinion that the season should be declared null and void. It is just not worth the risk.

Couldn't agree less -below chump they have to stop or go bust . Prem have to play or there will be big financial consequences .Chump play to get to the Prem.And no one anywhere is going null and void .

Update -National league have abolished playoffs this season.So likely Barrow will go to L2 and hopefully champions of North and South into National League.

 

[Andywolf74]

Anyone know what the betting companies policy is on settling ante post bets for league winners etc? I’ve got about £50 worth of various cross league accas running. One or two covering leagues not finishing. Will they return stakes or potentially pay out on whatever league places are decided. A friend of mine has an ante post Acca that prior to the suspension had a real chance of paying out thousands.

 

[Kashmire Hawker]

Small edit - there would be no play-offs under the proposal meaning according to The Athletic's article, Oxford United will be back in the Championship and Cheltenham Town sneaking past Exeter City to clinch the 4th spot to League One.

 

[Wolf316]

Anyone know what the betting companies policy is on settling ante post bets for league winners etc? I’ve got about £50 worth of various cross league accas running. One or two covering leagues not finishing. Will they return stakes or potentially pay out on whatever league places are decided. A friend of mine has an ante post Acca that prior to the suspension had a real chance of paying out thousands.

If the betting companies can get out of paying they will especially skybet. Paddy power seem a little better though.

 

[rincewind]

If the betting companies can get out of paying they will especially skybet. Paddy power seem a little better though.

Most likely all relevant bets will be void and you get your stake back. Presumably leagues that complete behind closed doors will stand (your unlikely to get a sympathetic hearing using the Villa or Brighton type arguments but give it a shot if you're going to lose a lot

 

[waggys left foot]

Anyone know what the betting companies policy is on settling ante post bets for league winners etc? I’ve got about £50 worth of various cross league accas running. One or two covering leagues not finishing. Will they return stakes or potentially pay out on whatever league places are decided. A friend of mine has an ante post Acca that prior to the suspension had a real chance of paying out thousands.

Me too,got a double -Coventry and Wealdstone.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

Anyone know what the betting companies policy is on settling ante post bets for league winners etc? I’ve got about £50 worth of various cross league accas running. One or two covering leagues not finishing. Will they return stakes or potentially pay out on whatever league places are decided. A friend of mine has an ante post Acca that prior to the suspension had a real chance of paying out thousands.

Cant speak for all of them but used to work at William Hill and likes of paddy Power generally always honour the bets

 

[WickedWolfie]

An interesting read... He sounds bored too, lol

Lockdown rough on referees too, says Wolves fan Oliver Langford

We have done a lot on what players have been doing during this pandemic – but what have referees been getting up to?

www.expressandstar.com

 

[Flea]

Sword coming down bigtime for clubs in July and August according to chairman of Posh.

It will mess up my quest to get to 92.

Who knows..perhaps the goalline has been reached allready...except Anfield road that is.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

FIFA will allow leagues the option of using five substitutes when they start up again. Also the VAR system may be temporarily suspended. Had it not been for VAR Wolves would have been in the top five so it seems unfair to change it for the last nine games.

 

[The Professional]

Sword coming down bigtime for clubs in July and August according to chairman of Posh.

It will mess up my quest to get to 92.

Who knows..perhaps the goalline has been reached allready...except Anfield road that is.

Nothing is definite of course, because no one knows to what extent the EFL, F.A. or even Premier League may assist, but there are going to be a couple of dozen teams going out of business this year. I know one that is basically doomed to fold unless they are bailed out somehow. Not great for the football fan.

 

[Wolf316]

FIFA will allow leagues the option of using five substitutes when they start up again. Also the VAR system may be temporarily suspended. Had it not been for VAR Wolves would have been in the top five so it seems unfair to change it for the last nine games.

And Vile would be out of relegation so I suppose there’s that consolation.

 

[bully9]

What will happen to villa? They will surely take legal action if there is a points per game enforced for the remaining games and they are relegated as a result. Their rich owners won't stand for it.

who gives a **** about them

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

And Vile would be out of relegation so I suppose there’s that consolation.

Why do people on here keep going on about Villa? It may have been funny or even clever 2 months ago but it's ****ing boring now.

 

[Leominster_Wolf]

Why do people on here keep going on about Villa? It may have been funny or even clever 2 months ago but it's ****ing boring now.

Sorry sir


*edit - perhaps it’s because they and the **** are our 2 closest rivals. Villa are involved in potential relegation and the **** possible promotion- just a thought

 

[waggys left foot]

Big vote on May 18-rule changes on Monday

Premier League clubs to vote on players' contract plans on Monday

EXCLUSIVE BY MATT HUGHES: The defining vote on whether to resume the season will not take place until May 18, a week on Monday, amidst continued in-fighting between the clubs.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[WickedWolfie]

Coronavirus: Dutch sporting events without fans until there is vaccine

Sporting events in the Netherlands will have to take place without fans until there is a coronavirus vaccine, Dutch Health Minister Hugo de Jonge says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[stuj4z]

Coronavirus: Dutch sporting events without fans until there is vaccine

Sporting events in the Netherlands will have to take place without fans until there is a coronavirus vaccine, Dutch Health Minister Hugo de Jonge says.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is exactly what I've been saying for months. Not doom mongering it's true

 

[The Professional]

This is exactly what I've been saying for months. Not doom mongering it's true

This could be the end of football as a live spectator sport. Could be the end of all sport being a live spectator sport.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Sorry sir

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*edit - perhaps it’s because they and the **** are our 2 closest rivals. Villa are involved in potential relegation and the **** possible promotion- just a thought

As I said before, perhaps it was mildly interesting the first 200 times but I think it's somewhat tedious now. Just my view though.

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

This could be the end of football as a live spectator sport. Could be the end of all sport being a live spectator sport.

Now thats doom mongering lol
Seriously it will be a long hard road but we will get back to normal at some stage,we had a World War and then a Spanish Flu epedemic that killed millions in 1918 yet we carried on,Influenza kills tens of thousands every year yet we carry on without hardly a thought,this will over time be the same

 

[Beeches wolf]

This has got to be the worst time in the history of the premier league for relegation. Money would drain like water through their hands. No wonder the bottom 6 are bricking it!

 

[WonderWolf]

Now thats doom mongering lol
Seriously it will be a long hard road but we will get back to normal at some stage,we had a World War and then a Spanish Flu epedemic that killed millions in 1918 yet we carried on,Influenza kills tens of thousands every year yet we carry on without hardly a thought,this will over time be the same

+1.

The crazy paranoia with this is as bad as the bloody thing itself!!

There will be solutions and ‘normality’ as we knew it should return in time. Those that feel or are vulnerable will just need to take extra precautions on the road to normality.

We will recover and move on.

 

[The Professional]

Now thats doom mongering lol
Seriously it will be a long hard road but we will get back to normal at some stage,we had a World War and then a Spanish Flu epedemic that killed millions in 1918 yet we carried on,Influenza kills tens of thousands every year yet we carry on without hardly a thought,this will over time be the same

Was a bit dramatic, I admit. It maybe the end of football as a live spectator sport, as we know it. In other words, for the next few years- very reduced crowds, difficult to get food, toilet facilities, travel times increased a lot, etc. Don’t really fancy attending games in a face mask either

 

[Burton Wolf]

+1.

The crazy paranoia with this is as bad as the bloody thing itself!!

There will be solutions and ‘normality’ as we knew it should return in time. Those that feel or are vulnerable will just need to take extra precautions on the road to normality.

We will recover and move on.

So you keep saying over and over again. Time will tell.

 

[WickedWolfie]

+1.

The crazy paranoia with this is as bad as the bloody thing itself!!

There will be solutions and ‘normality’ as we knew it should return in time. Those that feel or are vulnerable will just need to take extra precautions on the road to normality.

We will recover and move on.

Optimism is fine. Unjustified by any logical basis other than 'it was ok in the past' though....

 

[WonderWolf]

Optimism is fine. Unjustified by any logical basis other than 'it was ok in the past' though....

The past with delivery is all we have.....so then we must remain optimistic, no??

 

[stuj4z]

Influenza is not contagious like this. Neither is it the same as the Nazis and the threat of people wearing bombs as hats.

Nothing in the past is like this.
We could see football played in front of green screen with CG crowds if there is a year or more of this

 

[wolvesaywe]

Influenza is not contagious like this. Neither is it the same as the Nazis and the threat of people wearing bombs as hats.

Nothing in the past is like this.
We could see football played in front of green screen with CG crowds if there is a year or more of this

There'll be a vaccine or herd immunity. Either way mass gatherings will be back

 

[Stratman Wolves]

lol end of spectator sport? Truly some Project Fear stuff, to use a term I loathe. Life is going to be upside down for a while. It is what it is. But live sport will return eventually. And it will not return with the first vaccine. It's going to take time for people to be vaccinated, with several different companies having different vaccines out to match demand. But we will get there

 

[WickedWolfie]

Ok maths done. If split home and away they get another 15.172 points and we get 13.335. That would mean 7th for us...

 

[Flea]

There'll be a vaccine or herd immunity. Either way mass gatherings will be back

I agree..what is the alternatives anyways?
Truth is there is none.
Another lockdown in autumn and winter will mean starvation.
The world needs to get busy living with the Covid 19 virus.
The alternative is to give up and die.

 

[Deleted member 5635]

lol end of spectator sport? Truly some Project Fear stuff, to use a term I loathe. Life is going to be upside down for a while. It is what it is. But live sport will return eventually. And it will not return with the first vaccine. It's going to take time for people to be vaccinated, with several different companies having different vaccines out to match demand. But we will get there

I'm surprised some people haven't starved to death with the current fear of the outside world and touching anything that's not 100% disinfected.

Keep that up for too long and your immune system will go to **** the next time any bacteria comes near you.