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Depends who the 'they' are making the decisions.+1.
Madness to think we would consider anything that isn't up to it.
Depends who the 'they' are making the decisions.+1.
Madness to think we would consider anything that isn't up to it.
You don't know until it collapses!They are not going to buy materials that are going to cause the whole thing to collapse are they?
Its common knowledge that the traceability and paperwork is very sketchy, over 90% of the UK structural steel industry won’t touch Chinese steel either. The only way it could happen is if it is fabricated over there and shipped over to UK (on the few occasions that has happened, local companies have made a ****load fixing onsite mods and jobs) which would suggest isn’t going to happen as the GC has sent the job out for UK tender.My points not a British only type thing pal.
The point is Chinese steel is massively unreliable there's been various issues and proven that most Chinese companies are lets just say a bit dodgy in their certification of raw material. Basically you're probably not getting what they're telling you you're getting!
I work for a company that will not touch Chinese steel at all, we manufacture safety critical parts. The majority of our big customers will specify 'non Chinese' material.
They are not going to buy materials that are going to cause the whole thing to collapse are they?
+1.
Madness to think we would consider anything that isn't up to it.
My points not a British only type thing pal.
The point is Chinese steel is massively unreliable there's been various issues and proven that most Chinese companies are lets just say a bit dodgy in their certification of raw material. Basically you're probably not getting what they're telling you you're getting!
I work for a company that will not touch Chinese steel at all, we manufacture safety critical parts. The majority of our big customers will specify 'non Chinese' material.
Its common knowledge that the traceability and paperwork is very sketchy, over 90% of the UK structural steel industry won’t touch Chinese steel either. The only way it could happen is if it is fabricated over there and shipped over to UK (on the few occasions that has happened, local companies have made a ****load fixing onsite mods and jobs) which would suggest isn’t going to happen as the GC has sent the job out for UK tender.
40,00 is ample size at the moment.
Lets be brash! And go for 50,000! I think that is ample.
A 70,000 Molineux is pure fantasy but very nice to dream about.
Could possibly fill it v Real Madrid or Barca in a Champions League Semi-Final but that would be it.
And that would be getting support from football fans from across the West Midlands wanting to see such a match.
I would like to see Liverpool sell-out 70,000 seats every home game, despite what is said about their massive world support.
If they don't get the right manager in, they'll be attracting 30k in the chump.I see Everton have moved a good step closer with their proposed 52,000 seater stadium.
Apart from the extra massive cost of building a bigger stadium, they seem comfortable with 52k.
Many Evertonians wanted bigger, some wanted 62k, and stadium plans may include expansion up to 62k in it, if ever needed.
But the key thing here, is that Everton feel 52k is the right capacity for them, what they could fill on a regular basis.
Place North West | Everton sets stadium submission date
I'm with this.
50K is a lovely round figure; nicely suited to BIG clubs. As we are currently the aim is to be the biggest and the best, not only around here, but nationally and globally.
Get it up and think about ways of filling it later. When we are really flying we'll need all those seats for the new fans flying in from Asia, Mexico...
We'll also want an Arena that can facilitate and be attractive for other major events.
Let's 'av it!
Agreed. And will improve the atmosphere. Steve Bull is quite vocal and being joined to south bank will make a massive difference. Always fans tucked away in corner too. Let’s gone on with it.Fosun have mentioned a 50k sized Molineux, that is probably 5 to 10 years down the line, and includes a new Billy Wright Stand too.
But the most pressing issue at the moment is the building of a new Steve Bull Stand to raise capacity to 36,000.
Apart from needing a new Bully Stand to replace the 40 year old one, for all the reasons we know, and having it built closer to the pitch..
Is Fan pressure. 31,700 is plainly too small for sell-out Premier League games, with thousands of fans new and old being denied access.
A new Steve Bull Stand, and an expanded 10k South Bank with SE Quad would take capacity up to 43k, then we can take it from there.
Hopefully, talks between Wolves and the city council are progressing well, and a planning application will be submitted for a new stand soon.
I always feel that if you want to play regular football in the Champions League you need a 50k stadium, obviously, Juventus are the exception.
I know some will quote Man City not filling their 55k stadium for Champions League games but they are getting there, now averaging 50.125.
And that is for the Champions League Group stage which has been marketed better this season. City are averaging over 54k for PL games.
But let us get up to 36k first, to help ease the pressure, and cope with current demand, keeping the club ticking over for greater things.
You summed it up it three words what took me a few hundred..Get Bully done
And twenty thousand stuck at New Street because there’s no train crew.Maybe 40k at the moment, as an average gate but that would probably leave 10k fans disappointed for the big games. If we are to invest many millions on redeveloping the ground we have to ensure it is future-proof, and we are on a rapid upward trajectory with Fosun.
The council can’t even organise there traffic lights to stay on green longer than 10 seconds on a Sunday match day god help us them organising the molineux redevelopmentFosun have mentioned a 50k sized Molineux, that is probably 5 to 10 years down the line, and includes a new Billy Wright Stand too.
But the most pressing issue at the moment is the building of a new Steve Bull Stand to raise capacity to 36,000.
Apart from needing a new Bully Stand to replace the 40 year old one, for all the reasons we know, and having it built closer to the pitch..
Is Fan pressure. 31,700 is plainly too small for sell-out Premier League games, with thousands of fans new and old being denied access.
A new Steve Bull Stand, and an expanded 10k South Bank with SE Quad would take capacity up to 43k, then we can take it from there.
Hopefully, talks between Wolves and the city council are progressing well, and a planning application will be submitted for a new stand soon.
I always feel that if you want to play regular football in the Champions League you need a 50k stadium, obviously, Juventus are the exception.
I know some will quote Man City not filling their 55k stadium for Champions League games but they are getting there, now averaging 50.125.
And that is for the Champions League Group stage which has been marketed better this season. City are averaging over 54k for PL games.
But let us get up to 36k first, to help ease the pressure, and cope with current demand, keeping the club ticking over for greater things.
Lets hope Wolvo City Council give Wolves the green light for the next stage of redevelopment sometime soon.The council can’t even organise there traffic lights to stay on green longer than 10 seconds on a Sunday match day god help us them organising the molineux redevelopment
As we head into 2020, it is becoming increasing likely.I think at this rate we can safely say nothing will be starting until summer 2021.
I know about Everton’s funding for the new stadium. Complex and impressive, but not going to elaborate on here, because I’m (in a small way) involved in it. Might take a few years, but they’re going to be a massive club competing with the best. Wolves need to keep up with the likes of Everton to be successful over the coming years- having Nuno at the moment and success on the field is great, but when he goes- the real test will start.As we head into 2020, it is becoming increasing likely.
Would be good to get an update, as nothing has been announced since last summer.
We know Wolves are in talks with the City Council but that is all that has been said in recent months.
Fulham have cracked on with a new main stand despite relegation. Everton have submitted a full application for a new 52k stadium too.
Building new stands and stadiums is a very complicated exercise but clubs are moving them along, Forest too with a new 10k main stand.
Guess we'll have to be patient, as know one knows what is going on behind the scenes at Molineux, time will tell as they say.
In the meantime, below is the latest link to Everton's plans which do look impressive.
Following the project, the one thing I haven't seen in black and white, is exactly how they are raising the 500 million.
No mention of it in the article either but it must be coming from somewhere, so I will try and find out.
Place North West | VIDEO | Everton FC unveils final £500m stadium designs
How many wolves members are there? How many fans are on the season ticket waiting list?
Guo has faith in us that we can fill a 50,000 stadium. Why can't we have faith in ourselves? We have to think big otherwise there is no point.
Disagree respectfully, we have to think ambitiously but realistically.How many wolves members are there? How many fans are on the season ticket waiting list?
Guo has faith in us that we can fill a 50,000 stadium. Why can't we have faith in ourselves? We have to think big otherwise there is no point.