Adama Traore ~ To Sign New Contract ~ Or Loaned & Sold to Barcelona 2022?

[sc91]

Well spurs made a poor offer Wolves said their price 25/30m take it or leave it. Now they are messing around. He wants the Barcelona move in the summer anyway. If spurs come up with the money it better be soon.

Is that what you've heard?

 

[Brightonwolf]

What he had on his gloves isn’t it?

Oh possibly…. I will get my coat.

 

[sedgwolf1980]

This Adama saga, coupled with our recent good form, seems to be masking the issue that it would be borderline criminal to not sign a midfielder this window. It’s insane to think Neves and Moutinho can do a full season alone.

 

[JOSWolf]

Has anyone else seen the Happy Birthday post by Official Wolves? On the wall it says Happy Birthday, faith and believe. A cryptic message perhaps?

They have posted several messages relating to Adama today. May not mean much at all of course but several different posts today.

 

[sc91]

This Adama saga, coupled with our recent good form, seems to be masking the issue that it would be borderline criminal to not sign a midfielder this window. It’s insane to think Neves and Moutinho can do a full season alone.

Are you going to tell Moutinho or am I?

 

[sedgwolf1980]

Are you going to tell Moutinho or am I?

His legs will soon enough don’t worry about that.

 

[sc91]

His legs will soon enough don’t worry about that.

I'd have a feeling he would still take to a pitch with no legs and no arms.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Just another one on the valuation.

Forest want £20m for Brennan Johnson who is in exactly the same situation with 18 month left on his deal, and they're expected to get that.

Now, I think he will be a very good player but there's no way on earth Traore can be valued at the same price as him.

There was plenty of talk in the summer that we were touting Neves for £35m, which was below his worth, and now this.

It's ridiculous and concerning in the bigger picture.

 

[Timberwolf]

Do you really think any players value increases the closer he gets to 12 months left on his contract, regardless of their performance. Only one i can think of is eden hazard, and he was an exceptional footballer.

If traore had 10 to 15 plus goal contributions between now and the end of the season, at its absolute best his value would remain the same, at the 20 to 25m area. And if that was the case, teams would just offer a pre contract agreement and pay him silly wages, as they wouldnt be paying a signing on fee. Exactly what happened to aaron ramsey.

If we want decent money for him, its now or never. We would likely get half what he is being touted out for currently in the summer, so 10m, we may as well stick with him then and let him run out his contract if thats the case.

10m…? Are you sniffing meths?

 

[QB Wolf]

I would love it if he produced along those lines but there is zero chance.

I'd love it if any player did!!

 

[wwbug]

Part of me feels this deal, is not going to go through .
And that it never was a real starter, as we all celebrate him staying and forget that there has been no significant strengthening to our European chasing squad in areas that required strengthening.

 

[KFordOriginal]

Spurs have a bit of a reputation in spinning out negotiations, levy is probably the worst negotiator in the history of football. He is a one trick pony, turn a players head, get their fans excited, turn the screw on the price and more often than not his plan collapses.
He only seems good at signing crap players, more often than not he fails to secure good players such as Grealish.
Plus they are £700m in debt so pretty much skint, how many of the other so called big 6 are falling over themselves to snap up Traore for £20m.
I do like the idea of a 6 month loan as it stops him playing against us and even if he does go to them he will also be cup tied. But only if there is a water tight contract that they have to buy for the agreed figure at the end of the season come what may.

 

[Streathamwolf]

Part of me feels this deal, is not going to go through .
And that it never was a real starter, as we all celebrate him staying and forget that there has been no significant strengthening to our European chasing squad in areas that required strengthening.

You're right it's a plot by Jeff to sabotage Fosun and his own career.

 

[Hsvwolf]

I think Jeff knows that we are actually in a strong negotiating position. Spurs have promised their fans and most importantly Conte that they will spend big, I’m sure there is a lot of internal pressure on Levy and his team! Remember that Conte famously walked from Inter when they didn’t back him and Levy already promised a substantial transfer kitty to even get Conte through the door!

From all my time doing business with China (over a decade now) I know for a fact that they would throw the whole deal in the bin rather than being seen to have come off worst in the transaction (no matter how illogical)! So Levy won’t be able to play his usual games.

Agree with your point re negotiating with Chinese. In my business life I dealt with many East Asian companies in the UK , and learnt and advised by a specialist in negotiating with them you don’t try and play smart with them as it’s seen is being disrespectful (especially Japanese and Chinese).

Sure Ebeneeze Levys £15 million offer ( if true) and basically trying to get a Spanish international and unique type of player would not have been received well. Sure Jeff and Fosun won’t let Levy have the last word on this, and would prefer to keep Adama rather than lose “honour” .

Hope Bruno has also put forward the case for keeping him for now on football grounds

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Is that what you've heard?

No but it’s pretty obvious. The Adama deal would of been done by now. They will try do something end of the window. If spurs won’t offer what we want it doesn’t matter we got Mendes on side and Barcelona are ready to deal with us in the summer

 

[Halesowen wwfc]

10m…? Are you sniffing meths?

Absolutely. Or, maybe his value is halving each year as teams realise he has little end product. 2 and a half years ago before covid, we all felt he was a 60m to 70m player. After a drop off in end product we had hoped he would be worth 40m still. Then, last summer we couldnt get anyone interested at 30m, and now we are struggling to get anyone wanting to put in over 20m. If his outputs continue as they are, he will continue to be a heavily depreciating asset.

 

[wwbug]

You're right it's a plot by Jeff to sabotage Fosun and his own care

That doesn’t make sense , care to explain why you think that ?

 

[steve vena]

I think it’s more to do with the type of player. Bruno said a while back our cm players are all similar so I would think he wants a more attacking one (like Sanches). It’s difficult getting all the ducks in a row but if Traore going guarantees an attacking midfielder then let him go, obviously there’s no guarantees in football is the big issue. As for losing a wide player, we pretty well stocked even if we go back 343 then Neto and Hwang still come back so with podence and Trincao that’s still 4 of them.

Agree mate. A forward thinking midfielder is a must.

 

[Cornwall Wolf]

Spurs have not yet made a bid for Adama .. all talk no action ..

 

[JOSWolf]

Spurs have not yet made a bid for Adama .. all talk no action ..

They are a bunch of jokers. If I was Shi and Fosun now it is time to tell them to **** off. Keep Adama until the summer. We can still get a good fee in the summer.

 

[wolfslair]

Wolves should be telling Spurs that if no deal by Friday lunchtime then goodbye.

bang on!!!

If they are too cheap to pay the reduced sale price we have set then sod them.

Conte will walk as he won’t stay if their isn’t backing and I don’t think Adama is enough for what he wants the club to buy and ship out.

Also Kane is a flight risk too…..

They bombed out of the conference league this season in the groups and they have european experience through their squad. And we on our first attempt hit the semis of the Europa league……

What is the appeal of spurs really other than money? As you aren’t going there to win trophies as they would still lose a raffle where they bought 99 of the 100 tickets….

Perennial losers and bottlers with fans who are so arrogant they think they’re big time when they are simply just never in any serious discussion for a title or trophy if we are all honest.

 

[Minimalist]

I think it’s more to do with the type of player. Bruno said a while back our cm players are all similar so I would think he wants a more attacking one (like Sanches). It’s difficult getting all the ducks in a row but if Traore going guarantees an attacking midfielder then let him go, obviously there’s no guarantees in football is the big issue. As for losing a wide player, we pretty well stocked even if we go back 343 then Neto and Hwang still come back so with podence and Trincao that’s still 4 of them.

I like the idea of 343 with podence and Neto supporting Jimenez, they can take it in turns to drop deep and act as that attacking midfielder. Even Jimenez likes to often drop into that position.
Therefore I just don’t share the desperation for an attacking midfielder.

Another option is 3412 and I think podence is perfect as the 10, and even MGW, for that it’s more needed to recruit another genuine striker.

We even have the midfield and forwards to play 4231. That is arguably in need of a centre back more than an attacking midfielder.

Granted, 352 would benefit from a Sanches type.

 

[Streathamwolf]

That doesn’t make sense , care to explain why you think that ?

Precisely.

 

[Timberwolf]

Absolutely. Or, maybe his value is halving each year as teams realise he has little end product. 2 and a half years ago before covid, we all felt he was a 60m to 70m player. After a drop off in end product we had hoped he would be worth 40m still. Then, last summer we couldnt get anyone interested at 30m, and now we are struggling to get anyone wanting to put in over 20m. If his outputs continue as they are, he will continue to be a heavily depreciating asset.

There comes a point where the product becomes that cheap, it becomes nonesensical not to buy it.
Like I would never buy a Bang & Olufsen TV. Cutting edge technology and all that but at £12000 for a 42”, it’s a no-no.
However, I walked past the shop window and the display model was on sale for £2k. That made me buy it in a heartbeat.
Traore will never be £10m as there will be too many buyers just willing to take a punt at way more than that. Whether Adama would want to go to a newly promoted or a mid-table club that would take that punt, is another matter. The point still remains, that even in the summer, Traore will still be worth £18-25m.

 

[Axle]

There comes a point where the product becomes that cheap, it becomes nonesensical not to buy it.
Like I would never buy a Bang & Olufsen TV. Cutting edge technology and all that but at £12000 for a 42”, it’s a no-no.
However, I walked past the shop window and the display model was on sale for £2k. That made me buy it in a heartbeat.
Traore will never be £10m as there will be too many buyers just willing to take a punt at way more than that. Whether Adama would want to go to a newly promoted or a mid-table club that would take that punt, is another matter. The point still remains, that even in the summer, Traore will still be worth £18-25m.

You got a 12k TV for 2K!

Do you have J. Moxey on your credit card?!

 

[Timberwolf]

You got a 12k TV for 2K!

Do you have J. Moxey on your credit card?!

I did. Window demo and no box but got a two year warranty.
Five years on it’s still the most modern looking piece of kit in my house.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Spurs have not yet made a bid for Adama .. all talk no action ..

I would love to know how Levy and Spurs are seen in the game.

 

[Oh Robbie Robie]

Spurs seem to do most of their transfer business through the press, even more than other clubs. As with Doherty all the rumours regarding Traore are coming from Spurs not Wolves. It’s clear Spurs are wanting to pay £20m plus add ons and that gets leaked along with the information that a deal is close. A classic spin trick to convince the seller that the buyer has bent over backwards and that you are robbing them.

This is designed to unsettle the player and attempt to bully the selling club with an unsettled player. Unfortunately, for them, it hasn’t worked yet. It may well work eventually but I think they will have to pay more than they wanted to and that the price is increasing daily. I would expect £25m plus add ons to seal it today. £26m plus add ins tomorrow..

I agree. Only one way to deal with clubs that play that way.... put the price up each and every time they attempt it.

I think much depends on the FA Cup game this weekend. We go out of the Cup, the chances of selling him are higher.

 

[1972 i began]

Can someone please explain - in monetary terms - why we cant leave it until the summer ?
Unless we want the resources for something else in January.
I know he will have 6 months less on his contract but but does that really mean much.
He might be worth more in June , with more goals to his name and as part of a European League team.

The problem you have with that is....what if adama doesn't play very well from now till the seasons end.Then nobody is interested in buying him for the money we want.We lose out and he can go for free and the end of his contract.It's a gamble because it could work the other way.If he starts banging the goals in then he could have more suitors and a bidding war would obviously up the price.

I'm losing track but someone has mentioned a defender,that we could get for a few million and is I my cheap because he has only a year left on his contract,and is not going to sign an extension.So it's the same scenario as adama.

 

[1972 i began]

Wolves should be telling Spurs that if no deal by Friday lunchtime then goodbye.

I wouldn't give an that long jos.1800hours Wednesday would be mine.

 

[arctic rime]

Tell them to **** off

 

[Ian C]

Christ, every window we leave everything until the last dying second. It’s just so ****ing predictable.

I‘ve lost interest, as have the few Spurs fans I know. He can stay and sit on our bench or **** off and sit on theirs.

Neto hopefully back soon, that’s all we should care about.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Absolutely. Or, maybe his value is halving each year as teams realise he has little end product. 2 and a half years ago before covid, we all felt he was a 60m to 70m player. After a drop off in end product we had hoped he would be worth 40m still. Then, last summer we couldnt get anyone interested at 30m, and now we are struggling to get anyone wanting to put in over 20m. If his outputs continue as they are, he will continue to be a heavily depreciating asset.

So this is completely the product of the "logic" of your fevered imagination.... Right....

 

[WickedWolfie]

There comes a point where the product becomes that cheap, it becomes nonesensical not to buy it.
Like I would never buy a Bang & Olufsen TV. Cutting edge technology and all that but at £12000 for a 42”, it’s a no-no.
However, I walked past the shop window and the display model was on sale for £2k. That made me buy it in a heartbeat.
Traore will never be £10m as there will be too many buyers just willing to take a punt at way more than that. Whether Adama would want to go to a newly promoted or a mid-table club that would take that punt, is another matter. The point still remains, that even in the summer, Traore will still be worth £18-25m.

He has to be worth what we paid for him as an absolute minimum.

 

[Norris]

They are a bunch of jokers. If I was Shi and Fosun now it is time to tell them to **** off. Keep Adama until the summer. We can still get a good fee in the summer.

They’re not selling a pair of knocked off sunglasses in a pub, apart from the odd rumour that comes good here and there we never know what’s really going on in the background.
The Spurs fans are giving Levy pelters and our fans are setting their sights on Adama, Shi and Levy to a point.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Christ, every window we leave everything until the last dying second. It’s just so ****ing predictable.

I‘ve lost interest, as have the few Spurs fans I know. He can stay and sit on our bench or **** off and sit on theirs.

Neto hopefully back soon, that’s all we should care about.

Oh dear... Is he not going (including back to Boro)? Is diddums upset???

 

[Mugwump]

Spurs have not yet made a bid for Adama .. all talk no action ..

He just isnt as highly rated and in demand as he and his fanboys think he is. Its really that simple. Its pretty clear he is available, and he is available for a pretty cheap fee for a top side to buy. There has been no bidding war for him so my personal take on things is clubs are going to wait and let his contract run down before taking the gamble.

He and Mendes need to wake up really and just sign on the dotted line here. Come on Adama, you know it makes sense. You are popular with your team mates and are working in a good environment with a good atmosphere. The grass isnt always greener.

 

[WickedWolfie]

He just isnt as highly rated and in demand as he and his fanboys think he is. Its really that simple. Its pretty clear he is available, and he is available for a pretty cheap fee for a top side to buy. There has been no bidding war for him so my personal take on things is clubs are going to wait and let his contract run down before taking the gamble.

He and Mendes need to wake up really and just sign on the dotted line here. Come on Adama, you know it makes sense. You are popular with your team mates and are working in a good environment with a good atmosphere. The grass isnt always greener.

There is a fundamental logic fail in your post. If he is as poor as you say why should we re-sign him?

 

[Mugwump]

There comes a point where the product becomes that cheap, it becomes nonesensical not to buy it.
Like I would never buy a Bang & Olufsen TV. Cutting edge technology and all that but at £12000 for a 42”, it’s a no-no.
However, I walked past the shop window and the display model was on sale for £2k. That made me buy it in a heartbeat.
Traore will never be £10m as there will be too many buyers just willing to take a punt at way more than that. Whether Adama would want to go to a newly promoted or a mid-table club that would take that punt, is another matter. The point still remains, that even in the summer, Traore will still be worth £18-25m.

I think once it gets down to just the 1 year left on his contract teams arent going to pull the trigger unless its a good deal and 18-25 million isnt a good deal for a player in that situation. I'll stick my neck out now and say there is no chance we get over 15 million in the summer unless its like you have said, to a mid table side.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

His legs will soon enough don’t worry about that.

He's as fit as a butcher's dog.