Penalty shout

[wolvesjoe]

Steele completely takes out Bellegarde who was chasing a poor backpass, in the first half last night.

Reviewing the incident hard to see that it wasnt a penalty. Its a reckless challenge, two-footed, not just a penalty, but possibly a red card.

Yet the team and the fans didnt seem to appeal.

 

[Monketron]

Keepers should be allowed to wipe out a player like that imo (providing they get the ball, which Steele did). I have no issues with it.

 

[wolfslair]

Steele completely takes out Bellegarde who was chasing a poor backpass, in the first half last night.

Reviewing the incident hard to see that it wasnt a penalty. Its a reckless challenge, two-footed, not just a penalty, but possibly a red card.

Yet the team and the fans didnt seem to appeal.

Never a penalty in a million years…….

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Another example of Wolves fans with their rose-coloured spectacles on. Never a penalty as Steele got the ball and Bellegarde went over the top. It looked dramatic, esp being in the penalty area and had that been Sa on Wellbeck we would outraged if a penalty had resulted.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I thought it was a shout at the time, but I don't think it was a pen. For me Bellegarde gets there first, touches the ball away, but not far, Steele kicks the ball and follows through onto him. So not a pen for me, no excessive force or anything so move on.

 

[thommo1984]

Never a penalty in a million years…….

This!

Absolutely mad that anyone can think that was a pen and red card ffs

 

[Sirstancullis]

He got the ball!!!! It is a contact sport. You don't understand the game and have been brainwashed by the PGMOL.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Its excessive force, two-footed and Bellegarde had to throw himself into the air to avoid physical harm.

A foul with a possible red card anywhere on the pitch outside the penalty area.

Advise reviewing.

 

[jackdusty]

I think the team and crowd not appealing has answered your question.
Then again the Ref blowing for a foul anytime a Brighton player was touched was getting a bit predictable.

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

No Pen no foul end of

 

[Golden Arrow]

I did wonder momentarily but with next to no response from the NB, that immediately answered the question.
Player on player could result in a different decision perhaps, but in this instance the keeper made a clean save and didn't impede the player so fair decision imv.

 

[BuzzWolves]

If you compare it to some of the "fouls" given against us on Buonanotte in the first half it's a penalty all day long.

 

[Boss Hogg]

It’s the 90th minute and you’re Mike Dean. What do you do?

 

[Sephiroth]

Steele completely takes out Bellegarde who was chasing a poor backpass, in the first half last night.

Reviewing the incident hard to see that it wasnt a penalty. Its a reckless challenge, two-footed, not just a penalty, but possibly a red card.

Yet the team and the fans didnt seem to appeal.

Behave

 

[Golden_Wolf]

Steele completely takes out Bellegarde who was chasing a poor backpass, in the first half last night.

Reviewing the incident hard to see that it wasnt a penalty. Its a reckless challenge, two-footed, not just a penalty, but possibly a red card.

Yet the team and the fans didnt seem to appeal.

Didn't look like one in real time and not seen a replay to be fair. Have you seen a replay?

 

[Fenrir_]

Doubt there are any extensive replays of it, it's only shown once even on the highlights on the Wolves site. Didn't realise it until re-watching just but because he's gone feet first there is an argument for it to be a pen as it'd probably be a foul anywhere else on the pitch. If he goes with his hands and blocks the ball then takes Bellegarde it's absolutely fine, that's what keepers do, but going in feet first makes it more of an outfield challenge and you're generally getting pulled up for it

Nowhere near as clear cut a no penalty as some are making out

 

[wolvesjoe]

Didn't look like one in real time and not seen a replay to be fair. Have you seen a replay?

Yes. Wasnt sure in real time, but on playing back a very aggressive challenge.

 

[wolvesaywe]

Just stick it in the different rules for keepers that aren't actually specified in the laws of the game box

 

[Jefe]

Its excessive force, two-footed and Bellegarde had to throw himself into the air to avoid physical harm. A foul with a possible red card anywhere on the pitch outside the penalty area. Advise reviewing.

The challenge can be seen at [2:15] of the Wolves highlight video. Without the benefit of a closer replay, it doesn't look remotely like a two footed tackle to me, i.e. in which the studs of both feet are the focal point of the challenge. The contact is with the trunk of Steele's body / upper legs, of which he gets a very obvious chunk of the ball given how it flies off in a totally different direction.

I am an old fashioned sort that doesn't like seeing players penalised for winning the ball, even if there is contact on the man afterwards. As ever, it is wise to put the shoe on the other foot. Would you really want to see a penalty and a red card against Sa for this?

 

[Stourport wolf]

I have seen many worst penalties decisions given against us, but in my opinion it wasn't a penalty.

 

[BarryM]

Don’t think it was a penalty.

But …

Had that been the exact same but roles reversed and Bellagarde been the one getting the ball second and and Steel been taken out you knownit would be a free kick and VAR would look at a possible red card.

Likewise if the exact same happened in the middle of the pitch VAR would look at it … and if it was a wolves player doing what Steele did it would be a red.

Keepers get too much protection … and I say this as a goalkeeper.

 

[WickedWolfie]

It’s the 90th minute and you’re Mike Dean. What do you do?

Yellow card JRB for a dive...

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

If that was a top 4 club that’s a penalty

No question about it

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Another example of Wolves fans with their rose-coloured spectacles on. Never a penalty as Steele got the ball and Bellegarde went over the top. It looked dramatic, esp being in the penalty area and had that been Sa on Wellbeck we would outraged if a penalty had resulted.

There you go again, exaggerating and painting 'fans' (plural) as bad guys.
ONE poster posts something, admits the team and fans in the ground didn't appeal, most replies here are saying no penalty, but 'fans' have their 'rose' coloured spectacles on.
Jesus wept, can't even get the spectacles colour right.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Bellegarde gets to the ball first, and is then wiped out, on closer inspection.

The more you look, the more definite it is a penalty.

 

[S G Wolves]

Never a pen.

Nor a 2 footed dangerous challenge.

Correct decision by the ref.

 

[Norman Bell]

It’s the 90th minute and you’re Mike Dean. What do you do?

Continue talking complete and utter codswallop on Sky and elsewhere as I seem to be making a good living out of doing so !!!!

 

[tonto]

Never a pen.

Nor a 2 footed dangerous challenge.

Correct decision by the ref.

I am a Wolvesfan watching on tv I called penalty, I swore at the tv kicked the nearest thing to me and I don’t care if I was right or wrong **** em

 

[theweave]

Another example of Wolves fans with their rose-coloured spectacles on. Never a penalty as Steele got the ball and Bellegarde went over the top. It looked dramatic, esp being in the penalty area and had that been Sa on Wellbeck we would outraged if a penalty had resulted.

*Fan. Nobody is agreeing with him

 

[McGheesGuinness]

Not a penalty, the keeper makes contact with the ball not the player!

 

[Fenrir_]

Just stick it in the different rules for keepers that aren't actually specified in the laws of the game box

Yeah I'd go with this. Had it been an outfield player making exactly the same challenge in the box I'm sure VAR would have had a bloody good look at it

 

[Golden Arrow]

*Fan. Nobody is agreeing with him

I am to the extent that I don't believe it was a spot kick, but then I was right at the back of the SB so wasn't on top of the action.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I do think it would be looked at with two outfield players (I mean it was looked I think - nobody told us silly buggers in the ground of course), still don't think it would have been a red and that's the only way it can be a penalty as he clearly hit the ball first.

 

[Ned]

Never, ever, ever, ever a penalty. It was as much of a foul as Lemina’s challenge for the ball for his goal.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

I didn’t think it was a penalty, it never entered my mind.

 

[TriumphWolf]

Nowhere near a pen in my view

 

[Thank you Sir Jack]

It was a tough challenge. I wonder if the keeper was wearing i-pads, sorry shin pads?

 

[SuperGran]

It was a tough challenge. I wonder if the keeper was wearing i-pads, sorry shin pads?

Hopefully Gary caught the challenge on his shin pads, sorry I mean iPad

 

[Zico]

It was definitely looked at by VAR, the ref held up a throw in just after. There was a half hearted appeal from us in the North Bank but I thought the keeper got the ball, would have been furious if given against us.

 

[The Clock]

For what its worth i think it should have been a pen.
For those wanting a better view, you may not be aware that if you open the youtube video full screen, press pause at around 2.16, you can advance the picture frame by frame by pressing fullstop and unwind frame by frame by pressing comma.