The happy days are here again, hopefully no more repeated arguments, transfer thread

[SquaddieWolf]

**** it, would it really make a difference if we got €2m out of it or €4m out of it? It wouldn't be spent on the team, it would be put towards some music or ****ing Esport anyway

 

[Kebab Warrior]

We really need to stop dealing with Barca. We rarely come out of it well. Semedo has been alright-good, but we got rinsed on that fee

Or are we signing someone from Sporting… so they get the discount and we take the hit, they get Trincao we get thier player instead of another club?

 

[Halesowen wwfc]

**** it, would it really make a difference if we got €2m out of it or €4m out of it? It wouldn't be spent on the team, it would be put towards some music or ****ing Esport anyway

Personally its not down to a couple of mil. Its the naeivity of our dealings with barca. Theyve had about 10m more from us than what the market value should have been on semedo, traore for free for 6 months which has subsequently ruined his value even more, and then agreed an over inflated deal on trincao with an odd sell on clause which they have now shafted us on as well. Btw, i am not blaming any particular party, but this is a combination of our own ineptness, barca doing what barca do, with mendes in the middle orchestrating these deals.

 

[Wolf in the sun]

Stats look good...very tall.never seen him.play though

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545668506053664768

 

[Madmalc]

Perhaps you can get Shi & Sellars to paint it for you

What with the supply chain problems you'd wait 3+ years as the exact colour they wanted wouldn't be available.
And the only colours available wouldn't be an improvement on the colour of the fence now.

3 years later you'd have a rotten fence..

 

[WickedWolfie]

10m for Trincão? Surely we should have signed him if that's all they wanted (assuming he wanted to stay)! I really don't have any confidence in those currently in charge at our club to get good deals done.

10M euro for 50% of his economic rights, something which PL rules prohibit. Doubtless it would have been 20M for 100%......

 

[Sussex Wolf]

I dont get that we are for proactively for sale based on what they are doing. Jeff went into some detail on ask wolves about getting us ready to go on the stock market in a few years but i dont think fosun would look to lose their controlling interest.

I think its more reducing the wage bill to a more manageable level, maybe linked to teams needing to be at 70% of wage bill over the next couple of years.

We are up for sale, Jeff said years ago that they were looking a minority interest sale, and now talks about an IPO. An IPO is pie in the sky, simply not going to happen. We’ve had posters comment on their involvement in due diligence for a sale that didn’t proceed, and others who have said they know it’s an open secret in their line of business.

As to how and how much they sell, I think that’s still uncertain. They may ideally be seeking a spin off Fosun Sports company, in which they retain a minority interest but where new investors come in, and Fosun get perhaps 200m dollars in cash back. But I’m confident that an outright sale for the right price would also be acceptable.

The key thing is that Fosun are an investment company, and since promotion and establishment in the PL, our value has grown massively but has now somewhat plateaued. All the stuff they are doing on the commercial side will see us continue to grow, but at a much slower pace than in the first few years of their ownership. So as an asset, we now don’t look attractive for them to invest further in, but they will realise a significant gain if we are sold. They don’t need a fire sale, so they are comfortable to hold onto us until an attractive offer comes in.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Stats look good...very tall.never seen him.play though

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545668506053664768

Cue "Freak", "You're going to be a giant", "Bambi on ice", "Just a **** Peter Crouch" etc etc......

 

[SquaddieWolf]

Cue "Freak", "You're going to be a giant", "Bambi on ice", "Just a **** Peter Crouch" etc etc......

More like cue the "we were never really in for him" or the " we tried but they wouldn't accept a quarter of what they were asking"

 

[Halesowen wwfc]

We are up for sale, Jeff said years ago that they were looking a minority interest sale, and now talks about an IPO. An IPO is pie in the sky, simply not going to happen. We’ve had posters comment on their involvement in due diligence for a sale that didn’t proceed, and others who have said they know it’s an open secret in their line of business.

As to how and how much they sell, I think that’s still uncertain. They may ideally be seeking a spin off Fosun Sports company, in which they retain a minority interest but where new investors come in, and Fosun get perhaps 200m dollars in cash back. But I’m confident that an outright sale for the right price would also be acceptable.

The key thing is that Fosun are an investment company, and since promotion and establishment in the PL, our value has grown massively but has now somewhat plateaued. All the stuff they are doing on the commercial side will see us continue to grow, but at a much slower pace than in the first few years of their ownership. So as an asset, we now don’t look attractive for them to invest further in, but they will realise a significant gain if we are sold. They don’t need a fire sale, so they are comfortable to hold onto us until an attractive offer comes in.

Fair dos. I was coming more from the angle that the club doesnt appear to be proactively for sale. I guess anything is for sale at the right price.

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

Stats look good...very tall.never seen him.play though

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545668506053664768

Adama must be staying then.
Every inch helps to get on to those shanked crosses.
Hope he can jump diagonally backwards and has a button to extend his neck like inspector gadget.

 

[Ches78]

10M euro for 50% of his economic rights, something which PL rules prohibit. Doubtless it would have been 20M for 100%......

Ah right, that makes a bit more sense - thanks

 

[AndyWolves]

10M euro for 50% of his economic rights, something which PL rules prohibit. Doubtless it would have been 20M for 100%......

50% just means Barca retain a 50% sell on clause. Like our deal with angers for RAN

 

[Cornwall Wolf]

Darío Osorio .. being reported ln Chile deal looking likely and we have offered 5mUSD which is acceptable to the Chilean Club .. no idea if would get Work Permit .. it does seem easier for South American players .. maybe a loan to Grasshoppers .. who knows ..

 

[sedgwolf1980]

Personally im now at the point where im not interested in any player unless they are between the age 22-31, have top level experience, and their specialist position is either centre back or centre midfield.

Anything else is just fluff and window dressing and will generally have zero impact on our first 11 next season.

 

[DanishWolf]

Stats look good...very tall.never seen him.play though

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545668506053664768

I've seen him a play quite a lot as he was at Midtjylland for 6 years. He was already good then, but has developed even further in Belgium.
His coach at Midtjylland who was until recently assistent manager at Genk recently says, that he's now ready for one of the biggest clubs, due to his development and ability to change games.

He is a big strong lad, with a great eye for goal. His technique is fine and his hold up play is good too.

He's a good lad of the field too from what I've heard. Very humble and hardworking

I'd say he'd be a very good addition.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

I've seen him a play quite a lot as he was at Midtjylland for 6 years. He was already good then, but has developed even further in Belgium.
His coach at Midtjylland who was runtil recently assistent manager at Genk recently says, that he's now ready for one of the biggest clubs, due to his ability to change games.

He is a big strong lad, with a great eye for goal. His technique and hold up play is great too.

He's a good lad of the field too from what I've heard. Very humble and hardworking

I'd say he'd be a very good addition.

Sounds the real deal

 

[JamesWolves]

Stats look good...very tall.never seen him.play though

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545668506053664768

Isn't this the guy who scored the worst hat trick in football ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1445496337953218565

Insane scoring record in Belguim

 

[SquaddieWolf]

Isn't this the guy who scored the worst hat trick in football ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1445496337953218565

Insane scoring record in Belguim

When's the last time we has anyone score a hatrick at all? Jota would be my guess

 

[wolfgar]

Or are we signing someone from Sporting… so they get the discount and we take the hit, they get Trincao we get thier player instead of another club?

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Ha! We are not signing anyone from Sporting.

 

[wolfgar]

Darío Osorio .. being reported ln Chile deal looking likely and we have offered 5mUSD which is acceptable to the Chilean Club .. no idea if would get Work Permit .. it does seem easier for South American players .. maybe a loan to Grasshoppers .. who knows ..

Honestly if our first signing is one for Grasshoppers the reaction in some quarters is going to be pretty funny

 

[OLDGOLD]

Isn't this the guy who scored the worst hat trick in football ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1445496337953218565

Insane scoring record in Belguim

His first touch is like Hwangs.....sorry, it just came out...

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

Honestly if our first signing is one for Grasshoppers the reaction in some quarters is going to be pretty funny

Havent we already done one for them?

 

[wolfgar]

Havent we already done one for them?

We sent Bolla back and Hawabe is still there? Was there someone else?

 

[wolfgar]

His first touch is like Hwangs.....sorry, it just came out...

With a touch like that I can’t see that bloke troubling many premier league defenders. Even if he is a giant. Looks total Meirhoffer

 

[North West Wanderer]

The second is a great finish

Isn't this the guy who scored the worst hat trick in football ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1445496337953218565

Insane scoring record in Belguim

 

[SquaddieWolf]

With a touch like that I can’t see that bloke troubling many premier league defenders. Even if he is a giant. Looks total Meirhoffer

If he scores a hatrick for us I wouldn't care if one came off his backside, one smashed him in the face and rebounded in and the other was a blatant handball that somehow VAR failed to spot and overturn.

 

[wolfgar]

The second is a great finish

That first touch was horrid though, but didn’t matter with him being in acres I guess. Decent finish at the second time of asking tbf

 

[wolfgar]

If he scores a hatrick for us I wouldn't care if one came off his backside, one smashed him in the face and rebounded in and the other was a blatant handball that somehow VAR failed to spot and overturn.

It could be like having prime Akinbiyi back.

 

[Bacon Sandwich]

Being reported that CB David Carmo has signed for Porto

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544026580883742722

Fee quoted is €20m

Fairly sure we "held an interest" or were "watching closely" or even "preparing a bid..."

 

[Woburn Wolf]

Plenty I agree with there. But the reason we're so insanely boring is because we have to massively compensate for not having any CB's who as individuals are anything other than lower PL/Championship level.

The attacking talent we have in this squad compared to the dross we display most weeks is staggering. And all of this stems from never signing a proper CB. The midfield annoys me as well. Not signing at least another CM last season was the most inevitable backfire possible. And we massively lack legs and progression there, but Neves/Moutinho are class acts. The problem is they have to effectively make themselves redundant on an attacking front, again to protect the limitations we have at the back.

I consider Kilman, a top half Prem central defender and potentially a top 4 defender.

 

[wolfgar]

Being reported that CB David Carmo has signed for Porto

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544026580883742722

Fee quoted is €20m

Fairly sure we "held an interest" or were "watching closely" or even "preparing a bid..."

We do a lot of that. Actually signing people less so. Shame would have been good for us I think

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Being reported that CB David Carmo has signed for Porto

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544026580883742722

Fee quoted is €20m

Fairly sure we "held an interest" or were "watching closely" or even "preparing a bid..."

Maybe someone will issue a ‘come & get me plea’ remember those?

 

[North West Wanderer]

That first touch was horrid though, but didn’t matter with him being in acres I guess. Decent finish at the second time of asking tbf

I always focus on the positive, someone has to on here!!!!

 

[North West Wanderer]

I consider Kilman, a top half Prem central defender and potentially a top 4 defender.

As do I in a 3, and I genuinely think someone if his standard the other side of Coady will see us more than right.

 

[wolfgar]

I always focus on the positive, someone has to on here!!!!

Very commendable, but that can’t be easy mate? I watched that hatrick and I couldn’t help but think he looked a bit Kevin Francis. I need to cheer up I think

 

[Mighty Thor]

His first touch is like Hwangs.....sorry, it just came out...

Reminds me of Kevin Francis. Remember that air kick he did for blues and the ref gave the cart horse a ****ing pity penalty for being so ****.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Very commendable, but that can’t be easy mate? I watched that hatrick and I couldn’t help but think he looked a bit Kevin Francis. I need to cheer up I think

Thankless task buddy I won’t lie!!
Kevin Francis, absolutely bang on, haha.

 

[maws]

Poor first touch hmmmmmm??? Ron Saunders anyone

 

[Mighty Thor]

Poor first touch hmmmmmm??? Ron Saunders anyone

Straws. Clutching. at.